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Episode 71 · 9 months ago

STAR WARS: THE PHANTOM MENACE (1999) Discussion with Claire Apel

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Trent (Sebulba) and Parth (Watto) have a rare discussion guest Claire (Boss Nass), whose audio quality is hit or miss. Sorry about that. Now this is podcasting.

Edited by Trent Algayer

My boy. Now this is podcasting, this is pod I'm not asking you anymore, boss Nass, because that's what you are titled In our in the chatter here. That's me. What have you been eating? What have I've been eating? I ate a minute Mulano, like peppermint chocolate cookie. So is that what Gunkin's in your underwater cities? I thought it was dunging. Whatever jargo species is? I like, Oh, just jargos in exile, like because he's clumsy. He's an exile, but like not that far away. Like they swam for like ten minutes and then you just can't come awake anymore. Part what's your name in the chat? I am Wado and I'm Subalba A. Okay, so part of what you have. I had chicken tikidas from Costco for lunch because I was filming with friend of the show, Jackson Clark. Came back, had to finish about an hour of the movie and Shave. I participated in no shave November. Oh and it is December, first as of recording time, and so I am no longer bearded. Did you do it just for fun or is it? Yah, know, it wasn't to help cancer people. Is that what other people do it for? Yeah, yeah, it's to like raise money. I think. I like it is October breast cancer awareness month. I like it how every month that rolls around and like the NFL players, like we're pink and then it's like breast cancer and it's like how is this helping? You know, it's like I've like awareness for like cancer. It's like we know you know, especially breast cancer. I feel like like like we should trying to light on a cock and ball cancer. Is that it? Like I was going to say, Oh, vary and can, there's there's testicular, but ovarian works to Trent. What have you been eating? Oh, thanks, guys, I just had Bigel smoothie. You Know Me. How about we go into the show now, the start of our podcast, the movie one. Yeah, we have a we have a big episodes. Our first discussion was our first discuss this our first discussion guests in a while. So true. Who is our last? We were breaking? That was afte Casino Royale. Yes, I think that was local criminal Liberel, Lieberel. But our guest today, boss mass, has never committed a crime, not once, not once in his or their life. So sure, all right, should we start q? The and truck? Just never know. All these things. I did a more amret graffiti made tensis really failed miserable. You can. You can't do it. You can't destroy these things. It is possible. It's a little just joined. It seems like a lot of short seeds. It's bold in terms of jerking people around, but I may have gone to foreign a few places. Welcome back to craft services, where we talk about the movies in each week we talk about a film and hopefully have a remember of that film to talk with us about their experience working on the picture. Last week, who did we have? Trent. We had storyboard artist Benton Jew and he was a delightful guest and the super cool man right he was. He was our first interview of Prequel winter. It was pretty fucking epic. Yeah, I think so. Talked about working with George Lucas, talked about you know, he told us off air, and you say this in the episode, how Darth Maul was originally a woman. Yep, you know, lady dark cool. Thanks. Cool things. Go check that episodes where working on Skywalker ranch part or are some other cool movies? WHO worked on they're probably examples that I can't remember. Talk about Donnath the planet of the Apes. You were he's worked on wonder woman, Donna the planet of the apes, fantastic four. Yeah, bad boys too, with Michael Bay, some insane movies. But today is phantom menace discussion. It sure is not, is. Are you guys familiar with Star Wars, quote machete order or like...

...watching the movies and Machete Order? Yes, is. Oh, okay. To explain for our for Boston mass over here and and the kids at home, I'm I'm pulling it up real quick so I can get the well, I know what it is, so I'll just thanks, Trent. I'll take this over yet please. Basically, the way it would work is spoilers for Star Wars. I guess you find out an episode five that Darth Vader is Luke skywalker's father. So the release order you would do it, the order in which you would watch the movie is a new hope. Empire strikes back. Then at the reveal of Darth vader's true identity. You would watch one, two and three and then go back to six. I brought up machete order because I'm pretty sure they entirely cut out the phantom menace, saying that it is. Yeah, you can, you can cut saying that it is entirely needs one of doing, which I just thought was interesting to bring up before we talk about this movie, for to the this to our movie for an hour or so, that most people think that it is considered negligible. Way. So, Trent, do you is it your turn to do the Five Word Synopsis Or Ten Word Synopsis? Or wait, do we make Claire Do the Ten Word Synopsis? Oh Yeah, sure, yeah, okay, so so you have to you have to make up your own ten Word Synopsis For this movie and then either Trent and I will read the real one for my MDB afterwards. Okay, let's see now. This is all great, Claire. Yeah, yeah, that's really good material. Yeah, don't crack under the pressure. I'd hate to see that happen. Huge Jedi go to a planet and sign a kid. I'm yeah, that's eleven, that's eleven, eleven, I count it. It's JEN but at the same time, like how what a what better way can you describe the the basic plot of the basic plotting of this movie? That's everything important that happens in this movie. I'm a kid and OH, your first two words were the same. To Jedi escape a hostile blockade, to find allies and come across a young boy who may bring balance to the force, but the long dominant, but the long dormant scith resurface to claim their original glory. Think so, that's accurate. Yeah, with Claire's is better. So So, before we get into it, we have a guest today, Clara pell a housemate to part marate and pat and parts first kiss. I believe it's just we'll get it out of the way. Claire and I dated in junior year of high school, and Trent will let me forget about it and there's still tensions to this day. Let's move on. So the budget. Yeah, so this. How about you give me budget box office? So the budget product of this film is one hundred and fifteen million dollars and the box office is one point zero to seven billion dollars. Is this the first movie we've talked about that has broken a billion? Trent, come on, we just talked about the dark night. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry to disrespect you, but anything I talked about Star Wars, the last Jedi, which made one point five billion and Star Wars, the Force Awakens, which made two billy. So US covering star wars is basically US selling out, like it's US appealing to the masses. Yes, well, it's yeah, yeah, low I would boss nasty local fan favorite Boston ass is here to go drum up support is people are target audience. They like to talk about Star Wars. It's hard to talk about Star Wars that seeming like a dingus. You know, that's like the curse of this all right, so production history throughout the s seorge look is said that he had no desire to return to star wars and it canceled his sequel trilogy. By the time of return of the Jedi, however, he had already developed most of the backstories and the idea of the prequels continue to fascinate him and in nineteen ninety three, variety announced that he would be making the prequels and Lucas began outlining the story. He began writing the prequel trilogy on November One nineteen ninety four, and the screenplay of Star Wars was adapted from Lucas's fifteen page outline written back in nineteen seventy six which he designed to help him keep track of characters, backstories and events that occurred before the original trilogy. Isn't that like crazy it to begin with, though, if he made one movie and you're like, ah, I know where these people will be, like three movies ahead of time and three movies behind time chronologically, like it's almost an unnecessary amount of planning. I think that it's like somewhat lying. I think I was going to say is I think this is just bullshit. Like once you create a full franchise, you just say, I had the idea from the beginning, like I'm sure he had some idea of like the clone wars or whatever, but let's you will talk,...

...you hope, like yeah, yeah, like well to we'll end up talking about the trilogy as a whole. But I think there's certain things in here where it's a little bit clear that this was not a hundred percent planned as well as everybody thinks it was. Anakin was originally written as a twelve year old, but Lucas reduced his age to nine because he felt that the lower age would better fit the plot point of an it can be effect being affected by his mother separation. Eventually his younger age led to Lucas rewriting his participation in the movies major scenes. The film's working title was the beginning, and later Lucas revealed the title to be the Phantom Menace, which we now know is referring to Palpatine. The movie made extensive use of pre VIZ, which was a new technique, which you can hear second unit director of Spider Man. Am I supposed to say something? Well, what's his name? I forget. Doug. What? Doug Leffler? So yes, what did which? You can hear Doug Leffler explain his work in previous and our spider man interview, or actually, sorry, in our army of darkness interview. My bad, let's just cut that whole thing out. Let's start from are we all not good at talking today? What's wrong? I have a bad feeling about this. You think we're going to overcome this? The film made extensive use of the new technique of digital pre visualization. Lucas wanted the light super battles to be more fast and more intense than those of the original trilogy, as he was depicting the Jedi in their prime. New Gun raised high accent was chosen after Lucas and Rick McCallum listened to various languages and decided how they wanted the Nimmoidians to speak, is that they must be good destroy what is going on to them? We're not the time missions that have you ever incompleted day knights before? So whoa norm? But I don't see loft of Ridge. Yes, don't be enough. So I want Royd because I'm here at once but not survived us. The bloss all dot will hold them stude coming through. This is impossible. Royd, because no, Mush Fuck. Royd, because they've gone up defend elations. Shot after Samuel Jackson expressed interest in appearing in a star wars movie, he was approached by casting director Robin Girland to play Mace Windu. Kara Knightley was cast for her similarity to Natalie Portman, and she said that her own mother could not tell the two apart, which I feel like that's a little ridiculous. Yeah, that was in the Trivia section. was like Kara Knightley's mother had trouble telling the to apart on set and I was like that's your kid, Dude. But also it's crazy how similar like they look. They do, especially with the make up. Filming began on June Twenty Six, one thousand nine hundred and ninety seven and ended on September thirty of that year, with filming primarily taking place on in Leaveston film studios in England. The four scenes on Nabu were filmed in Cassoberry Park in Watford hurt for sure, correct me if I'm wrong and pronunciation. The Tunisian desert was again used for the tattooed scenes and editing took two years, with Paul Martin Smith starting the process in England and focusing on dialog heavy scenes, and Ben Burt, who's also the film sound editor, being responsible for the film's action scenes under Lucas's supervision. I'm going to go get my charger because my Mac is almost out of battery. Wow, part of the spot parts fucking fallen up a part. This is hard to watch. There are about nine. Fuck me, there are about one thousand nine hundred and fifty shots in the phantom menace with visual effects, and the scene where toxic gas is released on the Jedis is the only sequence with no digital alteration. Part. You know how many visual effect shots are on Durassic Park? Isn't it like some ridiculously low amount of fifty five? Wow, yeah, what do you think of the title the Phantom Menace? For years I thought that that was referring to Darth Maul. For Years Parton I believe it is referring to dark our games. Oh, I mean, I don't think we have the time to cover the whole darth jar jar conspiracy. I mean like the it's like that. I don't know. All Star Wars titles are a little bit stupid. I'm pretty sure likes that wont. The original titles are fine. Everything after that is like I feel like after the original three they just store like slotting in like like the Yes, yeah, it's suppose words great, Ange. This goes. Throw in Jedi. You throwing floors and you're like this doesn't really apply to anything. Like there are Jedi and force...

...in everyone. I'm at and forces and sits are rising and falling at all times. I think that the only one, and I know it'll be controversial, but I think the last Jedi is a good title, regardless of what you think of the movie. I think the titles a good time, I mean also incorrect, being that Ray is the Jedi, or is it saying that she's last Jedi? Or is it saying that Luke the final Jedi? I think it's I think it's like a passing off. Right became the final Jedi. This is going to be a fun all right, enough enough, Trent. Stop talking about the last Jedi. You've idiot scan. We already covered it. You could let some compared to now, where we're so good at talking, if you want to listen to us when we weren't good of talking, go listen to our last chance last Jedi discussion. It's only two and a half hours long. The film was released on May Nineteen, nineteen ninety nine, sixteen years after the release of return of the Jedi, and was met with a considerable amount of attention. More theater lines appeared when it was announced that cinemas were not allowed to sell tickets in advance until two weeks into the release, out of fear that fit family theatergoers would be unable to receive tickets or be forced to pay higher prices for them. After meetings with the National Association of Theater Owners, Lucas film allowed to agree to allow advance ticket sales on May twelve, one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine, provided that there was a limit of twelve tickets pursed customer, but sunk scalpers price tickets as high as one hundred dollars apiece. It's Crazyah, this movie changed the law in the United States. Yeah, theater owners received strict instructions from Lucasfilm that the film could only play in the cinema's largest auditorium for the first eight to twelve weeks, and they had to send their payments to distributor twenty century Fox within seven days. Wait, are you suggesting that star wars and or Lucasfilm is all about the money? Money, money, that's just hard to believe. It's all about family, Trent, I think money is a low consideration. I think more importantly, it's about it's about toy licensing. Oh, what's on your shirt? Oh my sure, not for any special occasion or anything, just Anakin skywalker, who's yeah, and it's name. Well, let me see it stand up to will spin here it? Oh my God, Oh my God. Yeah, wait, I'm wearing a star wars shirt too. I guess parts of that, part of them. I'm also wearing. No, I'm also wearing, for all wearing a star wars shot. Where any were? All of them intentional? None of yet my not. Okay, wow, we are all pretty obvious, aren't we? We're insufferable trying. Do you guys want to hear some fun facts about the film? Yes, Lam needson signed on without having read the script. Quigun Jin's communicator is a redecorated Jowett censor excel raiser for women. Now, the Portman missed the Premier Party in New York City because she had to study for a high school final exam. Eun McGregor made lightsaber noises. Se fought saying. I kept getting carried away, but Nicio del Toro was originally cast as Darth Maul, but later left the project when the characters lines were cut. Apparently darth Maul had a whole like monolog and in the Finnish film he has three lines. Yeah, and I've been Heasio del Toro joined star wars later. Anyways, I watching it this time around, when Darth Maul spoke and he just has like a normal guy voice. I was like, what the fuck? I didn't know that he talked like they should have just had him not talk at that point. Yeah, it's would have been spookier. At last we will review lost films to the Jedi. At last we will have revenge. You have been well trained, my younger Printis they will be no match for you. Okay, the phantom menace was the final star wars film to be shot on thirty five millimeter until episode seven. Seven, yeah, reading Roman numerous part you said, I guess we'll get in as next week. But attack of the clones was the first film shot digital. Yes, first feature to be like fully shot on a digital camera. This is ultimately the only star wars film where nobody speaks the word Lightsaber, because an it can calls quigon's lightsaber a laser sword, which is tough. You, McGregor, recalled that his performance in the film consisted of mostly, quote, walking into rooms and looking up employment. Consultant firm Challenger Gray and Christmas estimated two point two million full time employees missed work to attend the film, which resulted in two hundred and ninety three million dollars lost in productivity in the United States, and many companies just closed on the opening day of Star Wars. At least in one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine arguably the most significant, the best year in film history, some say. And isn't this film the Cherry on top? Now? Yes, I would say this is the prime example of a film released in one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine, although some people, some people does their Gron't, don't. Don't feel this way now about star wars. Some people dislikes star wars, the Phantom. It's just like it's so much. They give it a one star review on Amazoncom. Claire a Pel, yeah, guessed. Would you like to read the first...

...one? I would love to break some moviews. Okay, the first one. One Star, because you can't do zero. Somehow this was even worse than when I first saw it in the theater twenty one years ago. Jar Dar banks is of the JEVIL. I mean like they're not wrong about the whole jar jar thing. Part part. I texted you to text during during my course of watching the movie. Do you know what they were? One of them is jarred, something about Sebulba and something about charger, but it was it was first. It was I love Sebalba, jokingly, because Sebaba is the worst chess go sebolba, poco Uman Diese. It's so a radical fun of Jep Chow Chow Wow, wow, don't or no, Busha, prampaty. And then it was I hate George are because that's just true. Okay, this one is by Lewis Seth Epstein, later unfortunate last name. Hopefully there's no only there's no relation there and if there is, speak to our legal team. But it's labeled Amazon delivered the goods, but the movie is terrible and it says Amazon deliver the goods, but the movie is terrible. One Star for the tell terrible movie, five stars for Amazon. You don't often see people supporting small business like this. No, no, yeah, I'd Pat Jeff on the hat. And it's weird, head, head, like. Why are they commenting Amazon? Just like no one's like Oh, with like ship like I feel like at this point shipping with Amazon is very consistent. It's generally on time. Yeah, with with shipping, I feel like it either happens or a dozen and I think they're given Amazon a lot of credit here. And a lot of things can be said about sour spent a Metis, but one star is harsh. If it just you know, all right, part you want to read the last one. This is from Tsseeven and it says one star for the pod race. I was really, really, really disappointed. Jar, Jar, two lines of dialog from Darth Maul, and it can accidentally blowing up almost all the bad guys and the force actually being little bugs that control things. Add that to the astounding coincidences and it can built set three Poh will apparently of Fet, who will apparently forget about Anakin and Obiwan by episode, for Obi Wan will also forget about R D too, who saved him and others by repairing the ship. I won't go on lest I annoy myself more. It was the most complete and total shattering of everything about the previous movies that I held dear. As for this being for the kids, bollocks to that. The first three movies, particularly empire, were dark, witty, lively and just playing fun. I can still watch them today without ever wincing in pain at the line of dialog like Tex Quoiez me, thank you. Charge are there, charge are in fresion. That's like a really terrible charge. I well, I don't realize I was going to be doing it, but yeah, like this guy's right about all these like technicalities, and you kind of deserve it when you make like a prequel trilogy involving all the same characters. But people who care about these these logistics, I really, I really can't sympathize with Ye, there's a certain sect of Star Wars fans that kind of only care about like facts. Yeah, but it is interesting. I mean this is a review that came out September twenty one, two thousand and one. Oh, Oh my God. Yeah, yeah, he's nine eleven. Happened in ten days later, he was like I need to see something else. That's terrible. Wow, yeah, exactly. I think I'm not going to knit plike his review like twenty years later, but I know do that. No, like there was a moment where they were like we're going to wipe Septos like harder, like his memory, like you're not gonna remember any of this. Oh Yeah, they say that the end of revenge. To the say that the ends of rugs. But like, in fairness, he is right, like he's just like gonna Forget it. We're just like stupid, it's dumb, but it does happen. Yeah, we're entering the meat and potatoes face on the on this show. I you like in some of our first episodes, where star wars episodes, and I used to come to part of like complaints about things like didn't make sense, and part would be like Trent, who the fuck cares? And I've started to shift in that direction. It's a more fun way to watch movies. Yeah, when things like technicalities don't bother you, if you just throw your arms up in the air, you say whatever, whatever happens happens. If you just get on your knees and take it, you know. Okay, that was classless, but I think we can move into speaking classless. What's what's working? What's not working? How about we have our guests, bossonss he they pronounced Claire. You. You're a big star wars fan. Am I right? I am. Yeah, you specifically asked to come on for this episode. No, yeah, specifically for this one. We hadn't such a Star Wars Fan. And why? Why? This one? Because it's the first one available. That's like, yeah, you're enough. Yeah, yeah, part was really eager to get me on. He waited several months and about seventy episodes. Yeah, I...

...really I couldn't wait. I could not wait. Yeah, it's worked out that way. Like, what do you think of the movie? What do you like? What do you like it? All right, right, it's really great. Where I was like seven, I thought this is like really good. Hmm, but your are you suggesting your opinion has changed? Are you suggesting you're still seven? I'm going I suggest that I'm plenty and then of my opinion has changed. I don't think I could. I can't believe we're having a child on the show right now. Yeah, we're responsible, to be honest, someone getting some most point. Women like play my voice, name and that. But what? Well, kid, is there anything you do like about the movie, because we like to try to start out positive. I like the ending more than the beginning. I like duel faith, I like agree. I think that is most enjoyable part of the movie. They really, they really cross cut between like four different story lines. Yeah, I at that end part, though, and I'm like, I care to vary two very varying degrees about these different about these different ARCS. Just like looking back to the fight. Let's go back to dark mouth. Wait, you, but you don't like jarge are accidentally taking down an army and and Anakin also winning by accident like that. That's like the big joke of this movie. I was talking with Claire earlier today in preparation and I'm just going to repeat points that I said, and basically the biggest problem with this movie is that there is no protagonist. There is there's no like. You could say that it's Qui gone, but it's not, because he has no arc you could say it's Obi Wan, but it's not because he's barely in the movie. It's definitely not Anakin, because they don't. He doesn't leave the planet until an hour into, like our seventeen minutes into the movie, and they don't even meet him until forty minutes into the movie or something. It's not so it's like it's not bad me, is nobody. Yeah, they all just have like a very medium role. I never realized that you're just following this group, but it's not. It's not thinly distribute enough for it's like a hangout movie, because it's like a lot of stuff has to get done. That's and no one and no one of this group is fun to hang out with. There's a whole big story that's happening and what's weird about it is that I think, like I used to like be a hater because I was like it's cool to hate on the at the time New Star Wars movies. But but like now I have some respect for like especially given the sequel trilogy, where it kind of by rise of Skywalker, it's just regurgitating the same old shit like this was. At least it's different and it's new and there's like there's new worlds, there's new there's a new story. Yeah, whatever. You talked that earlier, to the world building. He said, yeah, yeah, we so do you know how, speaking of the CGI, do you know how, like jaws and other famous movies, it's like, Oh, they were supposed to be very monster oriented and then there's a lot of technical problems and then they found more subtle ways to show the monster and that makes the movie good. So do we think that that happened with star wars, that like, since George Luis's vision clearly involved all this bad CGI, because this was him saying like correcting the history, and the same thing of the remastered versions. So if he had his way and like woul just normal star wars, the original trilogy be bad. Claire, Um, I kind of think so. Like he thrown directed the first one. HMM, well, but he didn't really write or direct the other two and the original trilogy. I feel like he had little more of an impact on that like he had with like writing and directing with people trilogy. We would have had a totally difference out of Star Wars. News been very good for us. It's like crazy to me how he you know, run directed the first of one and like paved his own way, and then he took the bat, the back seat as as his franchise like sailed into legend, and then no one wanted to direct, to direct the prequels, and the only person that that anyone would trust was him. Because part of you seem like about to say something. Yeah, I mean like he took a back seat on empire and then he wanted Spielberg to direct or turn of the Jedi. He wanted David Lynch to do it, and then David Lynch said that it was all giving him a headache. So he took me upstairs and he showed me these things called wookies, and now this headache is getting, you know, getting stronger, and he showed me many animals and different things. Then he took me for a ride in his Ferrari for a lunch, and George's kind of short, so he was. He was seat was way back and he was almost laying down in the car. We were flying through this little town up in northern California. We went to a restaurant, not...

...that I don't like salad, but that's all they had. Was was sup then I got a really almost like a Migraine, headache and I could hardly wait to get to home and I even before I got home, I kind of crawled into a phone booth and phone my agent. I said there's no way, why? I know, no way I can do this. He said, David, David, David, David, calm down, you don't have to do this. And so George, bless his heart, I told him on the phone the next day that he should direct it. It's his film. He did invented everything about it, but he doesn't really love directing, and so someone else did direct that film, but I did. I called my lawyer and told him that I wasn't going to do it and he said you just lost I don't know how many millions of dollars. I love that. And then he went to direct Dune for some reason was such true. For reference, Claire's a big Dune Fan and is guaranteed a spot on the Dune discussion if that ever happens, and it would. HMM, because that didn't happen. He basically got some guy to direct return of the Jedi and kind of ghost directed a lot of it and through an e walks so he could sell toys. Literally. This is like when you hear that David Fincher, I must directed a spider man origin. You're like what? Yeah, you're like, wow, I'll I would difference. I wish we lived in me, in that world. Oh are you saying if, like David Lyncher, Steven Spielberg directed return of the Jedi, the guy? Think Steven Spielberg directed from the Jedi would be like better, but like very similar in like tone. I would, I would, I would argue that it at least like it'd be like better. It'd be better directed, like could be. I just think it'd be better. HMM. But the problem is George Lucas isn't like a director and like by the point he was directing the phantom menace, he'd not directed a movie since oneine seventy seven yeah, yeah, it's crazy how his career is American graffiti, or well, thx one hundred and thirty eight, which was a failure, and then American graffiti, and then just star wars forever. Yeah, and it's a yeah, and then he sold the rights for a billion dollars. Seems like I'm good for billion. Yeah, if you look at a lot of scenes in the phantom menace, the problem is that there's no protagonist and there's also no director. They're kind of just shooting the scenes and a very like plain, you know, objective way, and you look at, I mean the original trilogy, but even like in this way, I will like credit the sequel trilogy, like it feels like there's a director behind it, whereas this is kind of just like seeing what happens. And like the biggest example that I noticed was when I was watching like the fish, like there's always a bigger fish that scene. It's supposed to be this insane like they're going through fucking water and there's big fish and it's like shot and it's like and you're just setting their lifeless. Like. Yeah, I felt like that the whole movie. I was just like I so many things are happening and I don't worry, I don't care. I feel like it was just people, like, even if they're all over the galaxy, it's just like they're flying here to talk about this and then they're okay, we have to leave now, and then they're going to fly over here to talk about the same thing. Call me crazy, but this movie, like, is way too much about like the trade federation and like spay and like space politics. It's very bold to be like my first movie in this trilogy is going to start off with a trade dispute, about a boycott that is happening against a planet that we've never heard of before and we're gonna make a bad portrayal of like Japanese businessman's paracture. A tie one bubble. Kuza got past the Bokad. My Lord, it's impossible to locate the ship. It's auto follower range. This is getting Alto Hut. Now that are two of them. We should not twnt is about then, and those guys are like a big part of the movie. There very yeah, like remember how bad the accent was, until I watched it again today and I was like this is very bad. Yes, yeah, plus, it's like and it's like they're like central to the plotting. Like at the end of Oh my God, we have to find these two guys and it's like what nut gun ray so of the Trade Federation, exactly? Yeah, you want to hear my hot take? Sure, or I guess I don't think the space politics is inherently a bad thing. No, well, I mean, like alien is about space truckers and that's good. Well, it's...

...not about space politics, though, like alien is a pretty simple, like slasher movie when it comes to it, I think because, like watching this, I was like the only part of this other than Anakin getting picked up, like that's the one story point that this has really yeah, the time, only time on tattooine like makes some cause and effect sense. The only other thing that matters in this movie is Senator Palpatine, like, yeah, figuring out a way for him to become chancellor, right, because that's this whole trilogy is like, Oh, how does democracy descend into fascism? Right, yes, so that's not a bad thing, but then he doesn't come into the movie until you're about an hour and a half into the movie, so you don't know who your villain is or like who you're antagonists, whatever is, and the problem is that you don't care about anybody because they're not characters. They're just like pawns to move like story points around. Are Are we want to believe? Like when you first see palpatine on screen and he's like the Human Guy, like the same actor, are we supposed to not immediately connect the dots, like Oh, that's the emperor? I feel like you're because they don't do it. No, like like three movies later and I'm like, obviously, look at his fucking face. I don't know if I was saying that when I was like a younger kid, but when I watched again as like that, it's obviously that singer. Like, I don't know who they thought they were fooling. Actually, imagine people who saw that when they were like our age in Thousandine hundred ninety nine. Really, Hey, I feel like this whole movie it just like people being like Ug like the Senate and they're like Oh, this chancellor and all these legislations, and I'm like, what is happening? If I may say say you'll majesty, the chance and I has little real power. He is my od by baseless accusations of corruption. The bureaucrats are in charge. Now, what options have we best choice would be to push for the election of a strong guness of pre Com Jones, one who could control the bureaucrats and give us justice. You could cool for a vote of no confidence in Johnson of a looting. He's been our strongest supporter. Any other choice would be to submit a plea to the courts. Yeah, because because there's nobody to lead you through it. No, if, and like this is what I was saying to Claire earlier, to do Obiwan should be the main character in this trilogy, because he's the one that's like the good guy that's getting trained by qui gone. Then in the second movie he's like Losing Anakin and the third movie fully loses Anakin. Right. Yeah, he's also sons, like they're at the beginning of the movie and there at the end. Yeah, and so he's ostensibly the person that we should be following, especially through the phantom menace, at least the person we should be following. So if he's our protagonist and he's like I'm a young Jedi night and I'm being put into this world of politics that I don't really understand. If he was more integral to that, then you would have your story way through, you know, through the politicking of it all. But the problem is it just cuts two scenes with palpatine and Natalie Portman, who really does not look like she knows what she's doing because she looks like twelve. And so you have this whole lost feeling because nobody's leading you through anything, which is one of the things that like. Like I'll say this when we talk about wrench revenge of the Sith, but the later two movies, and I think attack of the clones is probably a worse movie than this, but the later two movies at the very least have protagonists, they have someone, they have a story. There is no arc that happens to anyone in this movie except for Palpatine, and his only arc is not in power, in power. Yeah, we have that exact conversation verbatim earlier today and then I said only wait to bring this up later on podcast and I have. Yeah, I like that. People consider Youan McGregor should be like the saving grace of the whole prequel chill tree, because I like him, Liam Neeson and the Lee Portman like as actors I like all three of them and I wrote my notes. Like they can't save this movie. EUAN MC gurker has nothing to do in this movie, like the way they kind of just keep him on the ship while they're on tatwine and he's kind of just like Oh, master, look stuff up for you in the Meddichlorian count like why are you there? Why are you not with them? Okay, Jar jar gets like in insane amount of screen time, like like there's like comic relief and then they're like this guy's like the third lead because of all the reaction shots you're giving him, of him like putting his tongue in an electric ray, and we'll stop back. It's horrible. I mean like like what's crazy about the movie is that there's some really easy fixes, which...

...is that Qui gon should be staying on the ship, yes, and OBI Wan should be going with him. It's a clearly that should be what happened, because he's supposed to be building this relationship with OBI WAN and an. Again the all the time machine. That is what I will do. I'll go back right a fake. It's like, George Lucas, I don't care what else you do with your whole life. You have to change this mean realistic of the change the plot. You have to change his plot. Can Drive. You have to change that. Realistically. You don't need quigone Jin like like maybe want and like have you meet them. They're exactly want him in the movie, but you don't meet him quite quigon dying is the only thing that gives us movie the slightest bit of weight, does it? I feel like I don't give a fuck about quiet. I just feel like that's the met either. Just feel like that's the only beat action. Because I don't know who he is. I might give him a Qui gone. I hope here that will be one's like upset and I surprising there isn't a lot of Internet conspiracy about Quigon like setting up all the Jedi because he's vouaging for Anakin and he's like the only reason that he gets trained as a Jedi. And it's literally you're saying he's a secret sith. No, like that's annoying, but it's it's literally his dying wish. After the Jedi councils like bad idea and then quigon's like Yo, since I'm dying, make this happen for me, and then Yoda's like pay sure, should we talk about the Chosen One elephant in the room? Wow, I didn't know how much Anakin was Jesus. He exactly what I thought. Literally, drother reinvented the Immaculate Conception and put it in the phantom menace and was like yeah, no big deal, this is fine. I was literally just like looking around my room and I was like are we not going to talk about this? Who is his father? There was no father. I carried him, I gave birth, I raised him. I can explain what happened. Like what did you like think that was insane? If I saw that, like there was no fun. He's just the craziest thing I've ever heard. But also, like he obviously doesn't think he's being unsubtleed, but like what's he trying to say by like just this kid being Jesus, like but also evil Jesus? It suffers from a thing that a lot of movies now, especially because everything is like a reboot, reinterpretation of something old, suffers from, which is that just because something or somebody is important to us does not mean that it's important to the world. Like there's no reason an IT Cain Skywalker, darth Vader, should have this much importance already, like he should be important when he becomes darth vader. Before that he's some guy. There's literally no reason for him to be the Chosen One, to be like the one to bring balance to the like. There's no reason for it other than Oh, later on in the fifth, the sixth movie, He'll do it. The one thing I will say, having now watched Dune and knowing what happens in the second movie, He, George Lucas, had a unique opportunity here to do something interesting with the Chosen One thing, which is in that this whole movie is like, oh, every like the whole how. How does a system collapse and crumble right? And by the third movie it does, and like, I don't think he does it well, but that's the an interesting idea. And what he could have done is that, like the Jedi Council places a lot of faith into the chosen one prophecy. So they send quaign and Obi Wan basically all jettas are constantly being set out to find the chosen one, and they find Anakin and he's really like fits the brand or whatever, and there they put all their they put all their chips on this guy and then he fucks everything up and they go well, Shit. So that didn't mean anything. So chosen one. Things like dynamics are bad, and that could have been interested Paul from dude, but he didn't. Yeah, I feel like the problem with each of the prequel movies is that they all only have like one, like actually rewatchable scene, and then this one it's the duel of faith's, in the next one it's like the big monster sequence and then the end the revenge of the sith. It's the law of a battle, and really those are the only scenes we're going to be like, I want to watch this movie because everything else I don't even give a fuck about. The darth Maulis because it's a cross cut so shittily like I always forget how badly cross cut them because if you just watched it play all the way through, like it because the the the choreography is so beautiful. And after if you like Star Wars, obviously like light. There battles and light their battles in the original trilogy, for what it's worth, or kind of lame, and then this is the first awesome one, and so you want to be excited about it. I would disagree. They're well, I mean that vampire fire strikes back. Oh, when he's good and they're turn of the Jedi one is good. Yes, no, they're JI one. I think it's the best. I'm just saying, Trent, that's two out of three movies. No, the one is the one in new hope noticeably sucks. Well,...

...it's sure, but it's not really a fun though. It's not a lightsaber back. He throws it at the end he's like, yeah, I'M gonna die. Yeah, he's always be a force ghost forever. Who? The other problem is that like Anakin, if he's supposed to be our protagonist in this movie. or I mean I know I keep bringing that up, but it's shocking, it's like absolutely shocking, how sidelined he is in his own movie because he does nothing. He do you don't meet him until about a third of the way in and then he does nothing. He wins the poke, he wins the pod race, but after that there's literally nothing he does that affects the plot in a way where he chose to do it. Now they bring him to the Jedi Council because Quigon wants to train this Fedi not because, and that's why leaves talk to me at all, because in quion's like, yeah, you gotta Him, and then he then they he gets brought along to the fight at the end for some reason, the crazy how Anakin, a child, is brought into the battlefield. Yeah, there to then not do anything, to be told to don't do anything, and I don't. I feel just so like I know that he was a slave and that he was free to obviously his legal guardian can't come, but the mom is just like hey, Annie, just go with just go through strangers, and then from that point on, Anakin just looking at everyone like are you my mom? Now, like who's who's responsible for me? Next podcast being pappy edible feelings, and it has wait. So in part you may know what I'm talking about, but there's a George Lucas clip from like the making of a phantom menace, and he's like the problem is, like how do you top the pot race? I know this is don't work. I know it's going to work because it's impossible charger as a key to wills. The whole thing is that how you got top the pod race. I'd be exhausted about tending in the pot race. I'll be ready to go home. And then that with Anakin, you know, kind of duplicating the Luke skywalker roll, but you see the echo of where it all's going to go and instead of door destroying the dust star, he destroys the ship that controls the robots. Again, it's like poetry. So if they rhyme, every stands a kind of rhymes with the last one. Hopefully it'll work. He's like what's once he funch the pot race, like how do you top it? And I feel like he's kind of right accidentally in that like the completion of the podcast, of the podres are like, okay, this is like an emotional end of the movie, and then you're okay, we're just at the midway point and like now what happens, because it's kind of like a long down slope after that until the end when thing and then you know happy. It all just kind of false to shit. Is it crazy? How like the last shot, like bossnss is like prominently featured, like he's said he's went a minute. He is center frame like holding an orb that means nothing that we're supposed to care about. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. I feel like all of the prequel movies, like it's like the movie ends and then there's a CGI shots of people celebrating for no reason. So I noticed for the first time in this movie the rather on the nose theme of them bringing up symbiosis all the time, which, like, I like as an idea, but then they tie like they're like Oh, the gun gins the but you have to get along with jar jar because we will depend on each other. And then with the Midi Chloreans, like Ah, yes, the Midi chloreans give us the forest because they're little bugs and they live inside us, and it's just like what's happening? Like, I don't give a shit about what it means like to have the force or with the the the the inner workings of many Chloreans, but you're over complicating this. Also, that ridiculous how they were like you have more medichlorians than Masterriota, and I was like, well, how do you know it has that work? He has, like why? Like that's another thing. It's like why does he have? Like what the key has twenty thousand medical you gonna say the pot racing goes on for three laps. As you know, if you also played the Lego stormers view. Yeah, I was wondering how long, how long into this episode, until we bring up Lego Star Wars, because I've played the stand the menus level, maybe even most out of all the levels, because it's the first one. I say it's kind of better than a movie. And how is George Luka is going to answer the alleation? Wait, are you saying all six levels of Lego Star Wars, or even just the first fansion men this level is better than his movie? Oh, isn't the first one quiet? It's Qui gone and and OBI Wan. We just wad around the ship. No, no, I was thinking about the first level of the new hope one, where it's literally you as as Layah and some other imperial guard guys walking around and you're like just starting, like a little hidden us. Oh, what's the weird I tried to play like I played Lego Star Wars when I was like twelve, revisit it and I was like this is great, and then I went back and played it when I was like seventeen. I was like this is going around and pulling levers and it is...

...very much for for children. But did I play it like three months ago. Yeah, well, yeah, well, they're coming out with the new game that has all of them and it's new levels for all of them. All my movies and only levels. Isn't it so nice? In like the the Cutscenes have no dialog and it just peep, it just people signing at each other. Now that is how to sell a game in China, my friends. That is how you actually make a movie. Your should take so part, did you not? You're rather silent. Did you not have a Nintendo Gamecube? No, I had a Wei. I played Lego Star Wars on that. The complete saga. I think so. Of You. What was your favorite, like movie level? I could tell you my least favorite. Okay, like, I didn't like the flying levels. Hate the fly. Yeah, I was going to say, except for the flying level, except for, yeah, this acting on the one side. But the revenge of the Sith, the first one with is a flying level, and that one's fun because that when you're just like flying on like fixed track. Yes, it's that. Yes, the stars of child. Oh wait, the the attack of chase, an attack of the clones. I hate that level to this day. That's the first one. Attack of the clones right, it sucks. I think it's a perfect encapsulation of this movie that it makes you want to talk about things that are more interesting than itself, that like no, but like Claire like accidentally made a good point, and that, like the video game version, is like bad. It's just like way, is a way better rendition of this story. Yes, but accidentally I'm saying them. Like even the pod racing scene. It doesn't do much for me because it's too long and like, at least with an action scene it feels like something's moving forward, but it's like a racing scene, so it's just like literally going around in circles, and it's hard for me to care about that. It's hard to maintain the drama went in something structured like a race, because they go around once and and you're like fuck, like we're going to do this two more times, like we you already did all the little tricks the first lap. It's like, okay, bring you a bout to like a new hope. When it was like they're going to do a trench run twice, they read it once and they're to do it again. They're going to do it third time, they actually do it three times like this, like the Trent. It's like the laughs, like you're gonna do that three times? Yeah, surely, maybe twice, saying that cut to the audience or something, I don't know. Yeah, and you make a movie. I feel like I don't like hate this movie. This is definitely my least. It's the PREQUEL. I would want to watch the least. Yeah, because I think it was on TV. Less for me, but even as a kid, even though attack of the clones is like a dumpster fire, I just feel like mores going on and like I like at least hating Christensen. Is that like the center of that movie, and Bossons over here loves hating Christensen. Speak on that. So true. I'm looking forward to the OPI Wan cone, the show where he comes back. It isn't crazy how star wars fans if they don't like a movie, they're like, I'm gonna ruin the actor's life. Yeah, they did that, even to the little kid in Phantom menace, like Boyd yes, and now his schizophrenia. I didn't know that it and it yeah, no, he fun. Fun fact I read in the Trivia it said that Jake Lloyd disclose that there was a sixhour cut of the phantom menace that people described as like a life changing and I was like Jake Loodi, why keeping this underlocks? I also feel like, like I don't think the way to fix this movie is to make it longer. Now I've heard people make arguments that with a few small dialog cuts you can make it like arguably like twenty percent less stupid, which I think is yeah, is going in the right direction. Yeah, I don't think adding more time is doing anything. The certain didn't attack of the phones because that it's heels very long. You can pretty easily, like just by cutting the jarjar section of this like the last act, you probably cut this movie by like twenty minutes. I've heard George Lucas like, in response to jarge, our hate be like jar jar is like no different than Yoda in terms of like they're both just like silly little creatures and they're both talk in a weird way and it's just like you go back and you're like wait, but Yoda's not so fucking annoying. He's also not stupid. Let like he's serving a story purpose. But like, like we what is jargere story purpose? Like originally it's just to get them to the Gungan city and then that's to be meeting relief in editor. And then was allowed to like vot. I was just going to say, isn't it crazy how he becomes the senator and like two moves from now he's making not? He not just becomes a senator, he becomes the senator that gives emergency powers to emperor PALPATINE. Well, which is a big part of why people, which is how, yeah, people start to point fingers. So quigon GIN, by sleeting DARGER's life,...

...indirectly doomed everyone to well, quite quite go on. Jin again is the root of all evil. I think we might be on baby here. Maybe, maybe, like the dark jarge are thing is maybe we're looking at the wrong person. You want to know, like the only shot in this movie I liked. Yeah, when all, when all like the droid chips come and they're like unloading and all like it's a hundreds of droids at once, so like unfolding, I'm like, this is really nice. But by and large, to see giants movie looks awful and it's like every like literally water is just they're flying on screen next to like a plus actors and you're like no one along the lines sat down and was like maybe this isn't such a good idea, like maybe the technology isn't here yet. Yeah, for me that always comes from like Liams and is grabbing like charters tongue when he like snaps out of the dinner table. That's always not where. I'm like, you needs to how to do that, like Rab I have ever seen the pictures of the very tall actor and like the jar jar suit with the face cut out. Yeah, it's really tough and it's weird that people, even though he's not on screen, the people went after him and they're like this guy has to suffer as this guy's fault. Yeah, that he got hired to portray this role someone else wrote. I feel like we need to talk about things that are working. All Right, soundtracks did Don Filiams, he always brings it. Like, yes, he always does bring it, but like, I feel like it's pretty negligible until Dula fats and then dual faiths are like this is awesome and they asum, I guess, would be only. Yeah, I like Anikin's theme, but I would agree that the sound, the music editing in this movie is really weird, I am the way that it cuts between themes. I also think that all star wars soundtracks after the original trilogy are so self referential that you're like, I don't know if this was, if this is for now. I don't like they all kind of sound the same and yeah, like you're wrong, like will be out there, Claire. You go ahead. I know you have opinion. I don't. I don't agree because I think there are a lot of like new themes in development, like two or three especially, that are like much better. Add a lot to the cannon of sward, like even like there's a being like Anakin's like them, like them send their later. I think that's like. I think that empire strikes back is probably my favorite vall of the empire strikes back and revenge the set. They're probably my favorite scores from Star Wars. Like I think the original trilogy has a good set of its own things, and then the third, the prequel trilogy, has like very operatic, like there's way more vocals and whatever like that's cool. I would agree that this movie, though, has the least the music, has the least effect on any of the scenes, whereas I think in the next to like. I think what literally happened is George Lucas forgot how to be a director and then, like, over the course of making these three star wars movies, kind of figured it out again. And the great maybe a little less like your you know, like less of than US them Santomatic, besides duel face, which is, yeah, maybe I just like the most famous. Yeah, like listening to the to a new hope soundtrack, like some like the tracks have become. You've overheard them so much now that they're all just like classic. But you can listening to like a CD of the Empire Soundtrack and it like it hits, like it's Strait of Bangers. But if you just had to listen to like the opening crawl of Star Wars, like that's not really good listening music, I will say, especially given the new star war. Mean I've kind of already said this, but given the new sequel trilogy, I appreciate the this with all of the weird way that it's plotted and character Arc's not being there and whatever. I appreciate that this has. It's different from the original trilogy. It would have been really easy to essentially do the same thing as the original trilogy and make it with Anakin and Obi Wan and then have an it can turn out to be a bad guy at the end. I like that. He you know, there's something commendable about the fact that these are independent movies. Like George Lucas funded this on...

...his own, made these movies on his own and made it the way he wanted to put in a bunch of weird fucking things in there that, like mostly don't work. But it's commendable that, like, he basically reinvented most technologies that are now like widely used for film for his Weird Little Sci fi move and like it's that's cool and it's ironic, because this tool set that, like him and I am worked for like very long to develop, like it looks really shitty in this and then everyone for the next twenty years would use it and, you know, like to their benefit. Again, it's like I think he just didn't I think he cared less about the output as much as he did about like, Oh, I want to make this tool or I have this idea and I want it to be in the movie, and didn't really care whether or not it worked, because there's a there's a way you could have shot this like this movie looks simultaneously new and old, and that it looks new and that there's digital effects but really old and that they're really bad. And whereas you look at the Star Wars original trilogy and that has a really like it looks like a real movie, like, I know it's an older movie, but that looks timeless, whereas this and especially the next two, because they're shot digitally on not great digital cameras, like they feel their age right again. Going that reason, for the way he brings in politics, it could be really interesting. He did it in like a better way, but it's still interesting thing to bring into a star wars universe. For that one. Yeah, but like a lot of people were pissed off that that is at all in a star wars movie, and I'm like, the idea of that is cool. It is like like seeing democracy fall or like like that's cool. Well, part I think what you were commending about this movie is that, like it's a big swing, and what people don't like about like Star Wars Force Awakens is they're like, you just did it again, and that's why people, even though it was cool to not like the last Jedi at first. Now it's cool to like the last Jedi because at least it was a big swing and they tried something different, and then the grand scheme of things we had. That is the goal. That if because we're trying new things with these big properties, that's good. The thing that I have grown to appreciate the prequel trilogy more for is that they don't feel corporate. Like they don't. They feel like somebody was really trying, in face ailing hard to make a movie, but they were trying to make a movie. It does not feel like they were in market research trying to, you know, put together a movie that way. I remembered my comment from before, and it's am I crazy, or is the cinematography of this film just absolutely lifeless? No, you're not crazy. Were you born? Yeah, no, it's like they almost made it intentionally. Boy, just people walking into rooms and then like leaving those rooms. Literally what you said. I most my actors walking rooms, moving up like that was when that's most people him more than anyone else, wearing minds or guy like. Even the fight sequence, other than the darth Maul sequence, which I think is like finely shot. It's fine, like if you see the first darth maul fight sequence. It's a pretty terrible I like, I always forget that that mini fight happens for no reason and it totally feels like people can plain and do. I get. There's enough darth Maul in the movie. And then the okay, where can we like sneak man for thirty seconds. You know, I had a kid duck which like why are they running? And it's what are the running? Room must yeah, why are you? Quite good. I'm tired and without any question time. Are we are reaching our endpoint, Trent? Yeah, we can quickly run. We can do. Want to run through all of my remaining complaints, like like we usually do. Sure, here's what I wrote down. Boss Ness, in frenzies underwater, people are stupid. Try Not to take that too personally. First, but I hate Boston ass. He is way too central to this movie, as they are way too central to this movie. Pret everything that happens with Chancellor Palpatine. Like I understand that if you're going to develop something, you have to develop him, but like more it's just so boring and terrible. Oh, here's something we haven't touched so how Anakin was originally going to be twelve and they age him down. Then miraculously, miraculously, in the next movie him and Padme are the same age. And No, they're not.

Well, they're not, like she's still older than him, but an appropriate enough age gap for them to engage in Romance. You know, she supposed to be like fourteen, yeah, yeah, and he's supposed to be nine. She's supposed to be fourteen. So the next movie that's ten years later, so nineteen and twenty four, like that's like so like society wise, that's fine, but I'm just saying if in the first movie you're like here's a kid and almost a woman, and then the next movie you like these are adults now, you know, and it's not the time usually works at a steady pay us. I just don't understand what like are you that much older at twelve than you are at nine? Look, would you miss your mom? That's a twelve minute nine. I don't think. Also, when the Jedi, like when at Anakin first gets brought to the JEDI and they're like we sent something in you and he's like I miss my mom, and they're like that's what we're worried about, and I'm like it's so funny. It's like he's and of course he's gonna miss his mom. They're like, HMM, fear leads to anger, anger, dark side, and they're like your judgment is clouded and it's like human use a slave three days ago. The funny because they're like he's too old, we can't take a minute. That made sense for Luke Skywalker, who was like thank almost an adult, but like you're telling me, this child is too old to like normally, normally we would sense them and train them, and I'm like, how young would you be training these Jedi rehables? And they take give him the life sabor in their hell and frosty is assible. Course, that's it. That's what they're doing. Oh, I also wrote that very little happens in the first hour and all and most of the dialog feels eighty yard. Yes, if you look at most lines of Anakin, they're yeah, they also it clearly eighty r Anakin's mom. I'm like, these words were recorded several years after the fact. All right, next NIP pick. Let's go. Let's go. I think. I think that's it, like the first hour of this movie being as uneventful as it is, like really kind of unforgivable, like really nothing happens in the first hour other than they get they find Anakin and that trade federation takes control of something. Like. There's so many attempted laugh lines and they all fall flat and it's just like really painful to watch this dayage. Ta'say, Oh, when you were right then a go jessons were short, like I think that one's funny. I think that one's fine. Okay, girth Frind, okay, but it's just because you and McGregor. He delivers it fine, but like none, none of it is written well. As the DROID invasion is coming, one of Jardo's cronies is like Mesa sense danger, and I was like do like your people are about to get like like pillage annihilated. Yeah, also, what are your what do you guys have hot takes on on droids, like whether it in what way? Like it's night, because they couldn't just do clones right away, so they had to come up with something else, and I'm okay with that. It's this, but like they like they's they're so stupid, like I know that's like I don't know. I don't know if it's because I have seen these movies since I was a kid, but like, I think they're kind of cool. I think that. I don't. Yeah, under Roger Rad no, yeah, Rodger Roger Really is the Oh message. You want to know a fun little story? That's not really a story, it's just something to know about me. There's a video of me as like a three year old or something. Oh, Claire has seen this. Claire has seen this, but it's of me waving a lightsaber around, going Roger, Roger, Roger, Roger, and then like me like destroying this fucking droid in my head, of course. And then my dad asked me who I am and I say Luke Skywalker and I'm like, I'm such a fucking idiot. You're mixing. I'm an Akin skywalker. I'm mixing my eras. Yeah, you're kind of all over the place. Yeah, yeah, that's me. Is that? Is that that on? That we want to enter, and that's a wrap. Do we want to enter the rating scoutlet? Yes, so, Boston. Ask the ratings gauntlet consists of telling us how rewatchable this movie is, whether you would recommend it, and your grade for it out of ten. Go at first. Okay, wability wait, but first, whenever we say rating s Gauntlet we drop, we do in nuclear bomb sound effect, so so real quick, act like like you're just getting exploded, like kill. All right, so, Claire, that your your thoughts in...

...the film. Okay, we watchability. This is not the Star Wars when we would take to rewatch. If I had to pick a star Wars Ready Watch, what would be? Way, you see Sunday at the Appale House, the name, it's raining, you just sat breakfast and you're going and you're looking through, you're filing through your DVD's. It's probably either a new hope or return of the Jedi. I love return of the Jedi famously. I defended a lot despite many other stuff about it, including my dad, hates it. Yes, rewatchability. So not that great. Maybe, like if I'm feeling like Oh, whole trilogy, like a whole trilogy, your whole side. Are you watching my oh yeah, okay, but not. I'm like a daily basis and like not be watching this. And what are you given out of ten? Out of ten? But did you say if you'd recommend it? Recommend it to people maybe if they wanted to watch all the Star Wars movies? But I'm not like, Hey, you should go watch this, like really, really bad CGI like I feel like the worst thing about the phantom menace is that it's simultaneously. It's like episode one. Yeah, I would never tell someone to start with this one. I know I'd always have the start with the original child. You probably like imagine like how upset and confused people must have been walking out of the theater, though I know I probably would have been really upset, like, judging by my reaction to like, yes, cool movies, I would have been very uset, like I've heard people like talk about them and they're like, I had to go back three time just because I thought I was crazy. Because how good something that I love so purely, like just betraying me like that. Yeah, yeah, out of ten, I fear I had to give her like a three or four, like, and I feel that's even being a little generous. Yeah, sorry, it's not pretty, the bantom menace, but yeah, we're not that. You are not the next Americans from call or. I'll go next. No, like, Oh, I mean no, no, no, I don't go out of ten. Okay, machete order is looking meant for people who have never seen any of the movies before, and it says a lot that it cuts this movie out entirely because, like we've noticed, nothing happens and that's not a good sign. And it's especially when people like don't understand the when you're talking to someone who doesn't understand star wars and you're like, Oh, episode one, and they're like what does that mean, and you're like, first of all, like, read a book and second of all, like it sucks that this is the first one. Like it just makes us all looks so dumb. I if someone outside the universe what they're like, Oh, Star from the beginning, watch episode one, and then they're gonna like, everyone likes this is a moron and like they're not wrong, but it's making us look bad in terms of rewatchability. Last night I turned this on, I was out like a light within ten minutes, and so that is the usual way it goes whenever I turn on this movie, because it's a classic sleepover movie that you ten minutes and you remember how boring it is and then you fall asleep. Like two out of ten, or maybe three like this. Shit's pretty bad. Thank you to Ben and Jew are, our guests for the UPISTUDE. He re agreed. The movie was not great, though. Yeah, I feel less bad about trashic. Yeah, I feel like most of the time, like even if the people who worked on it didn't like it, they're like, yeah, it was really fun to work on the project, but Ben and drew was like, yeah, this kind of suck though. Yeah, it's not. I would I would only ever recommend this to someone that wants to watch a completely completionist I would only ever re watch this when I'm going to rewatch all of Star Wars. Do People? Do you ever actually do that, though, like I've I've sometimes. I've watched the original trilogy and one sitting once and it was like pretty painful, like good, I'm not. I wouldn't watch I wouldn't watch it once sitting. Maybe I'll watch it like yeah, like over a week I'll watch all of them or something. rewatchability. I did that. Recommended sies to that. I don't. I Really Shit it on this movie, but chat shot upon it, shots and I shot upon this film. It's not good. I have respect for George Lucas, so respectfully, I'm going to gift this like a three point five out of ten, which I think. Is that the lowest I've no, I gave lock down locked lot. Locked down was locked down as a piece of Shit, I'm sure. Sorry, Yella Dane Smith, like I almost feel like like Ellen. I mean lockdown is like neck neck with like being as good as this movie like that, like like you're like now, that's an interesting conversation. Claire, Claire, have you seen lockdown? I have not...

...seen lockdown. I've only heard about it's good. Continued not to have seen lockdown. Yeah, yeah, believe or not, movies about covid aren't that awesome or fun to watch when you're still when it's still happening all around you, we're still on the pandemic. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, do want to talk about what comes next? Before one of our laptop to us? So true, I think sounds like Trent's laptop is dying. Yeah, next week we talk about attack of the clone, which another next week we yeah, next week we talked about attack of the clones with another storyboard artist, Mark Sexton. He has a lot of cool stories, did he not? Sabulbo Oh me, yes, he was also will post a picture, but he was also sturbed. Ours on Mad Max and Mad Maxter your road and he showed a we have a nice little picture of him and his storyboards and he was really cool and he talked about George Lue. Also have one of we also have one of him in his cat yes, and also he met Tom Cruise and he told sad story. Met Friends Sport Copela, told sad story. He was good at talking and you could. You should listen to you should listen to US talk to him. It was one of my most favorite interviews done recently. And if you want to know when our episodes come out, first of all, it's Sunday, the day of the Lord. And second of all, maybe you should follow our social media and you should follow our instagram or twitter. We post updates. We have fun little posts. It's pretty insane. You'll see our current war with team deacons. Fuck team deacons. Yeah, yeah, Claire. Do you think the people should give us a five star review on Apple podcasts or no? I think they should always give you a five star view an apple podcast. I had a really good time. Oh Yeah, thank you, boss asks for coming on. Your opinions were informed and and you were in you were star wars shirt. So so you were your dressed for the occasion part. All right, is that a rap? Yep, we're all. Yep, we're this. It's the end of the episode. Join US next week for talk of the clones continuation to prequel winter. All right, we don't want to Bob this laptop to die by now. This is podcasting.

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