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Episode 76 · 8 months ago

STAR WARS: REVENGE OF THE SITH (2005) With Eye Of The Duck

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Parth and Trent and Adam and Dom host the crossover event of the century with one of their favorite podcasts Eye Of The Duck. Everyone does their Emperor Palpatine voice. 

Edited by: Trent Algayer

However, Ankin of the high ground. You under estimate my power. Don't try it. So a part. What have you been eating? Yeah, Trent, Trent, hello, I had it's my mother's birthday today. Every going to say happy birthday to my mom? Have you wrote their parts? Mom, happy birth happy birthday, parts. What. Who are these people? It's the girls. More people than you, Trent, a grant like what I did for it's there's another podcast here. Personally, I'd rather be identified as a human being than a podcast, but I understand why. Now that's really nice. Adem we have I of the duck here. Guys, what we have? We have constantly alluded to how they are better than us. Now they're here. God, well, it's like when parth and I walk into the same room. People are annoying and the like. Ah, the PODCAST. I'm sure that happens to you if you ever enter a room together. I don't think that's ever happened. They usually say, look at these two idiots. Yes, really, but we have been in recent in recent occasions when we've all hung out. Adam, you have to admit, people have been asking us about I have the duck. Scenes like you'll walk out of a movie and our friends will be like, I think this is the scene. And well, that's true. That's we don't talk about like this outside of the podcast. Guys, it must be an on because you don't want to like step on the toes of future episodes. That's true. That is also true. Actually, yeah, I do find myself holding back opinions in conversations in because I'm like, I got to save it for the pot it's going to be fresh. Yeah, can you guys not just like go see a movie on a lazy Sunday now and talk about afterwards and fear of doing it in the future? Hmm, I think we. We we sort of drifted away from covering new releases, so it's actually gotten easier to go and see films together and and actually just treat it like we're hanging out and talking about movie. Nice. Yeah, but it's very surreal because when we begin talking about the movie after the movie, then it feels like we're doing the show, but we're like standing on the street without headphones on and no one is listening to us. But also add actually the my wife, who does not listen to eye of the dice. I mean she hears like half of it being recorded, but she doesn't listen to the show and she went to go and see a movie and then she came home and she's like you need to go and see this movie so I can tell you my eye of the duck scene. I was like Uh Huh, I've done it, I've infected you. Ah, my mom the other day said we watched the Guy Father Two over holiday and she said I think that this movie has two eye of the duck scenes. Did you tell her she's breaking the rules and she's not allowed. That is a violation that there's anyone on your show ever come forth and tried to present, like to like a dichotomy of scenes and you had shut them down? MMM, we've been loose with the rules. I think we need to crack pretty, pretty chill about it. If someone says I have two scenes I want to talk about, we usually just let them. Let them run with it. Well, since we're here, do you want to just like explain what your podcast is to all the significantly fewer craft services viewers that exists out there? GEFFREE air time? Okay, I have the duck is a film podcast hosted by me and Adam, where we search for the eye of the duck scene of every film, meaning each film has a scene that sort of represents the whole and we explore the film by trying to find that scene. So in revenge of the SCYTH, of course it's a scene when emperor palpatine gets electric or he electrocutes Mace Window and he says no, don't kill me, it's not the Jedi way. Don't can. That's the eye of the duck. An interesting pick. I like that pick. That's the scene we're all thinking about. Not to be this guy, but I think it's Anakin killing the younglings. My Scar Walker score to meals. Yeah, that's that's a guy. Strong eye of the duck pick. I think it may be the moment where the kind of really tired medical droid says to Obi Wan Kenobie, I don't get it, man, she's just like lost the lost the world to live and then sort of shrugs. He died of a broken heart. Medically she's completely healthy. For reasons we can't explain, we are losing her. She's dying. We don't know why. She has lost the will to live. I like how on your show, every episode you do the stick of saying like the stupidest thing that happened and very seriously presenting it as live of the duck. It's the joke that...

...has been it some type of it has to happen. We got it. We we got to keep each other on our toes. So you know things like that about to happen with you can keep advertising if you want, but we have to get on with our show eventually. So it's an integral part that we talked about what we've eaten and we're still only in the intro. That's true. So, my guys, okay, all right. I had some me so glazed cord with a side of white rice and some Broccolini. Wow, she's really good. Sounds amazing. I was at work and we found out that ruckers was paying for our launch, and so I got a tray of nachos for seventeen dollars. I'm going to eat for the next week. Thank you, ruckers. Wow, wow, I do not miss being a college how it's about to say. It sounds like a week of stomach pain because I'm poor or Nacho just just, no, no, not not because of financially security, but just I mean that also I was financially insecure as a student, but like just entire sentence, the in the entire thing, just like I got. I got in a situation where someone bought me a plate of NACHOS. I'M gonna make it last for an entire week. That is like that was. There was a weekend when I was a freshman where I went to some event and I went to the event because it had free pizza. At the end of the event they would just like take whatever is left. I took an entire books of pizza home and entire pie back to my dorm room and it didn't fit in the fridge, so just let it sit out on my desk the day he's it's just every day ate this pizza and of course, eventually got very sick from it. So I don't miss being a student. It's crazy how, when you're eighteen, like the sentence like free hot dogs and like get you to like take a bus to go somewhere. Yeah, what did I eat for dinner? Most racing most recently. Most recently, I had a delicious apple. I think it might have been a gala or a Macintosh. Had A little bit of green in it. I like my apples to be crisp, red and green. It has to have those two colors. And I like apple that's more on the sour side, more tart. I can't stand a soft apple, like the firm or the batter on my book. Yeah, can we get into that? Soft apples? I can't freaking I don't ever want to get them anywhere near my mouth. Don't get me started, parth. What did I eat? This is your section, but this is your show. Don't you know how it stuffed? No, I was thinking because I've recently found out that I probably have oral allergy. So drome Nice, because what does that mean? Well, I'll get into it. Don't worry, don't worry. Basically, when I whenever I have an apple or a carrot that's raw, it'll get my throat really like itchy. And I, Oh, I have this exact same condition. I cannie apples. Oh my God, you're actually allergic, Adam, aren't you? Yeah, no, I'm for the allergic. Domini has a munching on Apple. I can. I can have Apple Pie, like I can have yeah, me too, I got it. It's cooked. Yeah, okay. So here's here's a crazy thing. was that my girlfriend's like house at college and we were eating food, but it was definitely not enough food, and she was like have some celery and I was like I don't like celery. It makes my throat feel funny, and she was like are you allergic? And I was like no, I don't think so, I think it just makes my throat feel funny. She's like, carth, that's stupid. You're probably allergic. Means and and she's like, if you're not allergic, then you have to have it. And I had it and made my throat feel funny and then she searched it up and there's something where it's like your body mistakes stuff from food. That's when it's raw and it mistakes it for pollen. Yes, Whoa, so I have that? Yeah, no, I have the same thing. I've insanely bad seasonal allergies, which also means I can't eat like most fruit, saying yeah, but you know actually allergic, Adam, all this time you've been telling me how allergic you are to fresh fruit and Allen. Finding out that it's just some sort of vague now, just a miss on misunderstanding within yourself. If, if Parthur, I eat like a whole apple of throats will close up. Yeah, is that simple? I'll still like sound that bad. It's like really awful. Like I'll we always make out the pie for Thanksgiving and I can't help but eat some of the like raw covered in like sugary goodness, and every still terrible. But I had birthday cake most recently, since everybody wanted to know we were a logic to that. No, that was that went down easy. You Finding out about this problem so late in life is like everyone gets to college and then finds out their lactose and tolerant, because humans are meant to drink milk, and that just when your body decides that it can't take it anymore. I A great I. All right, I think we should make it clear to your listeners that Adam and I are sort of the original craft services podcast, because we also went to rectors. Oh, that's true, that's true, record. Wait, that's true. You're like team deacons in the deaconsing us, like how we undercut team deacons. You're undercutting us. Yeah, sounds about right. Wait, what do you mean you undercut team deacons? All right, part q the intro.

Welcome back to craft services, where we talk about Trent the movies each week we talked about a film and hopefully have a remember of that film to talk with us about their experience working on the picture. Last week we talked with Matt Toll. Yep, what was this? What was the job? He was the first assistant camera on Star Wars, revengelan stuff. Yeah, it's was that awesome? Or yeah, really pleasant time. You should go listen to it, right. Have you already recruited that one? Yep. Yeah, yeah, that's all ready to go. That's coming out this Sunday. You're talking to two month ago, Trent and Parth, but I remember it really fondly. What did you learn? I want to know what you learned from the first, first days. Was it first, they see you? A first, okay, a came operate. So what did you say? It was a see. Yeah, because they see. He basically was like George doesn't get white people go Gaga for Star Wars. He doesn't, he doesn't understand the height and that it was kind of a kind of a boring shoot, because he was just like that's fine. We we keep and interviewing people who have like like really mundane interactions that George Lucas and just hearing like their day to day like droll conversations with him. It's like so it's like cat neep for me and every guest does a George wilcas voice and it's awesome and they're already building sets. God, I'm gonna have to start the script pretty soon. But what are we here to talk about now? Well, we're here to discuss revenge of the sith with the eye of the duck. Te cast cohosts who have graciously decided to come our on our POD, to battle US versus toy. So just so, just so we can get you guys talking. Like you guys are like a bit older than us and probably remember the prequels coming out, and I kind of. I remember seeing this movie in theaters, but none of the other ones, and primarily because, because the first one I wasn't yet born. So like what, whatever must that must have held you back from seeing you, yeah, you weren't born yet. It wasn't the years away. I don't think you're. I think if you, if you had tried harder, if you really were a true stars, you would have found a way, could have seen it through this in a movie. becase sparkle in your father's eye. You know it's true. HMM. Yeah, we're very old. We're about what are we? Sixty, seventy? In Your Eyes, Adam, we are time. Times become a friend circle for me. Yeah, no, I mean I saw, I saw will three of these in the movie theater. I remember loving pretty much all of them at the time that I watched them. Well, yes, because I was a small boy. HMMMM, it must there must have been so much to react to, having seen the Phantomnus for the first time in the theaters. But, like we're people angry. I saw the phantom menace probably like six or seven times that summer because it was like a really hot summer and all I remember is my mom just taking us to the movies, like over and over, because it was very hot and the movie theaters head air conditioning. We did not, and I thought it was like the greatest movie ever made. You know, how old were we, Adam, like six or something, ten, I think. Maybe I want to say eight. Yeah, seven or eight, I don't know. I saw this, I believe I saw this film in Bournemouth with my with my dad, maybe my whole family. I can remember because every three summer we would go and visit my grandparents down in Bournemouth and the previous summer I believe they had played the entire original trilogy and so I saw those films. Or maybe it was across three summers. I can't don't you remember how they did it? I know they rerelease the original trilogy before Phantom Menace came out. Yeah, I was not like sentient at that phase and I have no recollection of that. was that a NY seven somewhere that? That sounds about right. Yeah, but I remember my dad taking me to see all three of them. So I was like already kind of like obsessed with Star Wars and then this came the well, fando menace came out, went to see that and I was all in. I was definitely into the prequels when I was a kid. Speaking of sentience, my first memory ever is when, at four years old, seeing general grievous's face on screen, and so that's actually that's your first living memory. That is locking eyes with general grief. Well, it was me and my mom took me movie theater to see something else and then it was the whole thing where you're walking out and then they're like let's go pop our head into another one and we popped in and it was revengeled seth and John Greus was on screen and it scared the crap out of me and then we had to leave and that's my first memory. Let's see, coughing. I was gonna say it's only a matter of time until we address his horror of coughing. No, well, I mean we'll get into this, into the fun facts, but unless I am DB is tricking me, apparently that's George Lucas is cough really, wow, cord. Okay, according...

...to legend, unless people lie on the Internet. It's very, very strange. Wow. On to do the car. I knew that the I believe the voice is performed by someone from like Ilm Right, who, yeah, kind of like messing around doing voices, and they were like that'll work, and they gave him the gave him the robe. I didn't know the cough was a sample from George Lucas. Well, Oh fool is really is all too painted. Ready, careful what you're saying about our for because you can get popped on the head real quick, real quick. I was going to say general grievous is he's patient zero. Right. That's where it will begin. Wow, yes, someone asked me today. They were like this is so is general gruvous, like he used to be a human and that's why as a heart and stuff, and I was like I don't care, I don't and and I'm sure that one George Lucas doesn't either. Know. Well, Yoda has green blood. So true, you learn about general grievous is coughing in that that Star Wars, clone wars animated series and Genety Tark Cov. What's yeah, that's right. Yeah, thank you. Stick again, Gendie Tarto, Gindi totakovsky. Yeah, that it. I think so. Yeah, that series is great, very actually. That is now sort of my my mental sort of like if I if I'm interested in Prequel territory, I end up watching that and instead of the live action film. Right, speaking of prequel territory, revenge of the Sith, I think pretty universally it's like, if we're going to watch a prequel movie, this is going to be the one. Like I don't know anyone in there in the free time WHO's like attack of the clons tonight. You know, I know a couple people that do phantom menace by yeah, anyone the the ops for attack the clones. I know like like eleven year old me would have opted for attack of the clones because you got that big stadium scene, big m all, the JETA. Yeah, count you have shocky, shocky. Yeah, I've also got dexter jetster like makes mom me, and you see Yoda jumping around. He Fights Doku, although you get some Yoda and this one too, but that, that movie as a kid just blew my fucking mind. Yeah, I remember in the lead up to that film, the way that you used to find spoilers for movies back in Ye old Internet was the really the smart thing to do was to go on European Ebay and look at the the Lego sets on there, typed in star wars lego like a year before a movie was coming out into European Ebay. You would always see, like you know, someone who has found like you know. For example, I knew that there was going to be a Yoda doing a lightsaber fight long before the movie came out because there was a you could find on European Ebay a Lego set of Yoda holding a lightsaber and count dookey holding a Lightsaber, and I was also how we will learned the count Dooku was going to have that cool curved lightsaber and a it's crazy how they did the double lightsaber for Darth Maul and then they're like okay, how can we make this guy's lightsaber special? And they're like, let's just curve it a little, you know, but it affects his fighting style. I think the I think that you know, for whatever you want to say about these films, there is an effort to sort of expand the world, sure and stuff like even you know, the every you know all these new sifth car, because they will have their own specific fighting style. I the whole time I was watching this, I kept I was actually really like into the way that palpatine fights. HMM, I didn't expect to like enjoy watching Ian mcdermod with crazy CG face wrinkles toiling around, but the way that he choose the scenery, combined with how they've directed the fight choreography for him, it's actually really fun. Yes, this is a good movie. Adam will not agree, but WHOA revenge of the sist it's a very good movie. Star Wars is good. Adam does not like star wars and I do. That's the difference here. See that this might be scandal of son of itself, but are path. This is prequel winter after all. So we did Phantomni, so we did attack of the clones. I think our conclusion on both of those were a general thumbs down. But this is like the the overcompensation of all over compensations, over compensation as a film. You think like you know, I feel like this is the culmination of his vision, like in a good way, because we made observations that in the first movie, like nothing happens, and then in secondly, like everything happens but it means nothing, and then in this movie it's like everything's happened that matter. Things happen that matter. I think Lucas had a vision for the prequels and it didn't come to fruition in full form until this movie. I agree with that. I would agree. I think that's fair. I think he I think you can see there is a clear through line through all of these films, which isn't something you can say of every star wars religy. which what are you referring to, Adam? But that being said, we should should we get into the synopsis, the other stuff we do? What do we do, Trent? What is it? Let's do it. Which should we do? The section before the section? Oh,...

...we should wait. We have to do the Ten ten word synopsis. That's what I'm saying. So we've been holding our guest hostage and forcing them to describe the film in ten words are less, so you can talk amongst yourselves. By the WHO that's going to be? Don't should we each contribute five woods each? Okay, Anakin becomes death Vada, so I'm going to take forwards for the front and you can have the rest, but Obi Wan must defeat him. Yeah, that's not bad. Done words right, okay, but I am DB. Put it this way. Three years into the clone war, are you just going to show us up immediately? was barely a breath between us finishing that and you just steamrollering and move for it. That's one of the better ones we've had. Yeah, thank you. So why? They passed the Big Bucks? More importantly, three years into the clone wars, the Jedi Rescue Palpatine from count Dougu as. Obi Wan pursues a new threat and it can acts as a double agent between the Jedi Council and Palpatine, and it's lowered into a sinister plan to rule all the galaxy. Trent. Do you want to tell us how much it cost and what it made? So, believe it or not, attack of the clones that a hire budget than this movie. And the budget is one hundred and thirteen million dollars and the box office is eight hundred and sixty eight point four million dollars us. That budget somehow feels too low, right. Yeah, after having watched this film, especially with the preceding film that, like is worse and smaller every way. The costing, like we taught. We alluded to this a little bit, but it's like probably because they were developing the technology for that film, because that was such a huge step forward, and then at least they had some of the the the tools to play with. And so yeah, and I wonder if they were like assets they were reusing, like things like the Jedi temple. They would just copying and pasting from the last film and things like that. While parth, you want to do the production history. Yeah, this is a little bit of a long one, so I'll try to get through it relatively quickly. So, George, look, as started working on the screenplay for episode three before attack of the clones had even been released, and have been proposing to concept artists that the film would open with a montage of seven battles on seven planets. The title is a reference to revenge of the Jedi, the original title of return of the Jedi, which Lucas changed weeks before the premiere, declaring that Jedi do not seek revenge, which Lucas had originally plan to include more ties to the original trilogy, with an early draft including a ten year old Han Solo appearing on Kashik, but the roll was never cast or shot. He also wrote. Am I allowed to interrupt you as time anytime? I just hearing you. You read that. I'm just reminded of something I've kept thinking about while watching, which is just like I kind of feel like George Lucas is just to blame for the like unending, like Fan Service in just every movie now. I think the whole time I was watching this, especially the sequences on Kashiki, which going to interrupt myself to just remind the audience that is a word that has three wise in it. She's just incredible. In succession holds all those yeah, in succession. It's Kash yyk which is brilliant. Why do we have that entire sequence? Like Yoda has plenty to do outside of that, but for some reason they're like we'll just send Yoda off to Chewbacca's planet and you'll you'll meet Chew Bacca. It doesn't make I don't know. It's so he can throw his little green lightsaber into the heart of a clone trooper, right, but it's just all this winking and nodding at the camera that like I'm like, is this? Is this where it began? Did it begin with the Star was prequels? Watching the Kashik seen today, I was like the wookies are the Red Army and they are just sacrificing bodies. You know, it's true. Yeah, I mean Katie Mend I says, what about the droid attack on the wookies? What about the D on The knackle? Okay Stream, it's one of the last like republic strongholds that they can save. What's your question, Adam Mike? No, my question is he's a more broad question, which is is all these films, like all these are these films the first time we get sort of this level of Fan Service? And did that reshape, you know, cinema as we know it. Yeah, you're probably right. Honestly, I had it in my notes that George Lucas created the first mcu movie. Yeah, and yst tile. It's interesting, like the last shot of this movie, like it's is the the twin suns, and I know that's how they end all the trulagies at this point, but it felt particularly on the nose and like ending the whole the the whole quadrilogy, Sky Walker, who the fuck with it? Like makes sense, but now it's like the really just going for that be over and over. It's poetry. It's supposed to rhyme, it's true. Yeah, that's what he says. Lucas also wrote a scene in which palpatine reveals to Anakin that he created him from the Midi chloreans and thus is his, in quotes, father. The scene was also deleted, although that's pretty much been made...

...cannon again, I thought this was has in contention because I know that that's in a comic, but this isn't that him. I don't remember. Is that a cannon comic or is it? I believe so. Okay, I believe it's a cannon comic, but it's Anakin having like a nightmare. Yeah, yeah, that was the contention comes from. But I think the general idea that Anakin was made by the Sith is pretty much accepted at this point. But I could be wrong. I think it makes sense. Why not? Well, that would explain the whole like a matter no section of the first one, because we watch that we're like, we didn't remember how Jesus see this was. And so if some so, if some like rogue like Droyd, went and impregnated her, that makes more sense. If it's for the Sith, now it's not a rogue droid. He like manipulated Schmi skywalkers womb and filled it with Mediclorian's right, oh, that's what happened. Yeah, makes a lot more certain, very, very cool and normal. Stop my bad. Yes, yeah, after prinsipal photography was completed in two thousand and three, Lucas made even more changes to Anakin's character and rewrote his entire turn sequence. He accomplished this rewrite through editing principle foot principal footage and filming new scenes during pickups in London in two thousand and four. In previous versions, and again had more reasons for his turn, but Lucas streamlined this by making his primary desire to save pad me from death. Do you have a sense of what those additional reasons were planned to be? It, I think, was supposed to like tie in more to the political aspects. I know that it was supposed to tie in more that he genuinely believe that the Jedi council was plotting to overthrow the senate and Chancelor, but I think that he wanted to bit closer to the emotion which to interject on that my I was watching this move with my housemates today and they've never seen this movie and I explained. They were like, okay, why is Anakin Evil? And I was like, Oh, it's to save his wife, and they're like that's pretty noble. And then there came to the scene where he's killing all the kids and they're like wait, but like well, what does this have to do with his wife? And I was like no, that's a good question. Yeah, yeah, yeah, some, some. If he's stuff, then well, he's seduced by the dark side. Well, that makes keep that in mind. That's true. And I also think that once he has, once he's killed Mace wind do, he's kind of like well, I'm now this rabbit hole, I've made my bed, I might as well lie it. It was he was part committed. Well, I think at this point Anakin becomes convinced that the Jedi are are evil. Right, that the Jedi are I think it's easier for him to believe that, even if, you know, even it or like tell himself that. Yeah, I don't know that, because I feel like two scenes before that, I'm not feeling that he definitively thinks the Jedi are evil. Yeah, I think it's more that he he sees the the sith way of thinking as a way of ensuring padme survival, and it's a lot easier to swallow that pill if he also tells himself and also the Jedi are evil. There are enemy of democracy and they're going to, you know, drag out this war longer and cause more death and will be a net positive if I kill all these children. Yes, sorry, I think you mean younglings. I think if you read this is filmed through the lens of the last Jedi, you begin to understand why Ana can could think some of these things, because when you start to reconsider the way the Jedi Act in these films. They are kind of like a a lethal like, I mean they space corps. Yeah, like they decide everything. It's kind of like a Fishi stick. Even though they pretend to be democratic. They have a council, they have swords and they kill everything in their way and they don't let Anakin be a master on the council. I mean, I was not rageous. It's unfair. Despite his powers, there are no ladies on the council. I feel like if these movies were none. Know, there is the Yattle. Yeattle is a female of yodas species. That is so true. Yeah, you boys don't know about Yattle, the one below. YEAHD'LL, yeah, attall is not in this one. I think by the time she's this film she's gone. But there are some other lare's just there's Jedi ladies that we see getting killed in this one. There's a trend on. Yeah, during order sixty six. I was gonna say, are you telling me order sixty six, Guy, yattle? That just hard to believe. No, no, yeah, I don't. I think it's done by now. Shack T, she is a woman on the council. She's the twilet, right, I think so. Know, there's also Yarrell poof. Oh, yeah, I know that he's a man. I'm sorry, Oh, miss gendered. Yarrell poof Addi Gallia. She's...

...a cool one. You can play as her in Jedi power battles, one of my favorite games for the playstation one. Do you guys ever play Star Wars about a front to like, not to get too carried away, but like on the PSTWO, on some which one? Oh, yeah, the PSL, yes, too good. And then I played the new battle front on PSFOUR and I didn't play the new battlefront to on the PS four. That one I did not bother with now at all. But WARF. You were to talk about Star Wars Video Games. There are so many of them. I think, Domini, if we played about a hundred a piece. War are so much more satisfying when it's killing stormtroopers. Wait, but tell us about like what the best and Brighter Star I've been playing star wars, revenge of the Sith for the game boy advances, your game boy advice, actually an incredibly good game. They'd they eventually the xbox. Yeah, that one's very bitch sith. It was very good, which is now I'm really enjoying it's available on the xbox series sex right now through game pass. That's a fun one, especially to do a coop campaign, because you do a cop campaign, then you and your like couch buddy play as Obiwan and Anakin respectively. Yes, and I believe there's an alternate ending. I remember this, that you could, you could overthrow the emperor and you could rule the galaxy. Oh really, you would, and you would do it as as Anakin, not as, like you know, tin man, Darth vader. Did you guys play Lego Star Wars or was that past your time? It was both pass my time and I play tonight. Yeah, New Lego Star Wars castaways game for mobile is very good. It just came out like a few weeks ago and I named it the best mobile game of two thousand and twenty one on Esquire magazine. Nice. Wow, wait, parts speaking of Star Wars, let's continue on with the production hastory. Oh Right, oh, I have one last thing to say about that revenge of the Sith game. I don't even remember if we have we talked about this, but I'm pretty sure the opening, like that whole sequence was at about an hour long and the first cut of this movie and that some of the deleted scenes are in the video game. I think I haven't. Oh Wow, I do remember that being actual footage in their cinematic yeah, you saying the this, like the one take of them flying around the ship at the beginning. That was an hour longe. We were really no, no, not not the one take, like that entire sequence of the the stuff on the okay, yeah, that though. That whole thing took an hour, which in that final movie it's like half an hour. Yeah, it's at all of the chancellor stuff, like them getting off the ship, was the first hour of the movie and this was when it was a for our cut. Kill him. Got Him now I shouldn't really. The first bulk of principal photography occurred from June thirty two thousand and three to September seventeen two thousand and three, with additional photography occurring at Shepperton studios and in Surrey and elstree studios in Hertfordshire. Heart, but heart, for sure. Heart. Yeah, from August two thousand and four to January thirty one two thousand and five, initial filming took place on sound stages at Foxty is Australia. In Sydney and the Art Department Use Star Wars, the holiday special as inspiration for Kashik, for the cashik environment. I love that. Wow. Hayden Christensen says that Lucas asked him to, quote, bulk up and physically show the maturity that had taken place between the two films and he said that he worked out with a trainer in Sydney for three months eight six meals a day and was on every protein weight gain supplement that man has created to go from a hundred sixty pounds two hundred eighty five pounds. Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen performed all their own lightsaber stunts and had no stunt doubles. Dan. I think that's more for the final fight. I'm sure they US stunt dolls. But Christensen begged and pleaded with Lucas to be the in the actual darth vader costume, to which Lucas obliged and the costume department created a new suit specifically for Hayden Christensen and the new costume featured shoelifts and a muscle suit and it also require Christensen to look through the helmets mouthpiece because he was not tall enough. I did know that in two thousand and four, Gary Oldman was approached to play the role of the voice, role of general grievous, but did not, as the film was made outside the screen actors guild. That's interesting also. I just want to quickly socle back to elstree. I wasn't I couldn't remember by a double checked and I lived twelve minutes from elstree studios. Oh my God, a crazy as a boy, as a lad, as a young thing. The Post Production Department, handled by ILM, began work during filming and continue and continued until weeks before the film's release. In two thousand and five, special effects were created using almost all formats, including model work CGI and practical effects. The same department later composited all the work into film scenes, with both processes taking nearly two years to complete. And revenge of the Sith had a at the time, world record for two thousand one hundred fifty one visual effect shots. The premiere took place in Seattle, Los Angeles, Chicago, Washington, DC, Boston, Denver, Atlanta, San Francisco and Miami on Thursday may twelve two thousand and five. The firm Challenger Grant Christmas claimed the film...

...cost the US economy approximately six hundred twenty seven million dollars in lost productivity because of the police who took a day off or reported in sick. Oh I love that. Time stamped workprint of the film leaked onto the Internet hours before opening in theaters, and one week after that I was a copy of it on the street of Chinatown. Oh my gosh, we're going to get into the eight people were later filed with copyright infringement and distributing material illegally. The illegal copy was passed among seven people until reaching an eighth party, who played guilty to uploading it to an unnamed peer to peer network. The leaked print was released in Shanghai as a bootleg DVD with Chinese subtitles, and they chose to include subtitles that were translated back into English from the Chinese translation rather than from the English script, resulting in risk in subtitles that were heavily mistranslating, heavily miss translated, often causing unintentional humor. For example, in the opening call, the title is mistranslated as Star War. The third gathers the backstroke of the West. Darth vader's cry of no is rendered as do not want wrong. In Two thousand and sixteen. Youtube user grateful deadpool uploaded a fan edit of revenge of the sith in which the cast voices were dubbed by other actors to match the bootleg subtitles. That's I love that. Adam, did your did your Chinatown DVD work? Now I remember now I didn't actually buy it, was my my friend. I won't name him, I don't want him to go to jail for copyright infringeman. But my friend bought it and then gave it to me. And because I remember, I think I had seen the film opening night, maybe with my my dad and some friends, but the rest of my family hadn't seen it. So I remember it was. It was like a wild thing to you know, a week after seeing the film, be able to just watch it in your living room. Now we have same brandy, I know. I know times times she will have changed. Dumb. Your spider man to disk story is a very relatable cause. Endlessly hitting the playbotton thinking something's going to change. Yes, yeah, for for your listeners who haven't listened to our spider man episode on I of the Duck my brother came home from China with a bag of bootleg DVD's, and spider man, too had not come out yet, but he had a spider man to DVD, but it would not work. It's very sad. And those Chinese bootlegs also had a lot of that same sort of mistranslated text, like all over the front and back covers, which are always funny to read. Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you not also have like a copy of spider man with like a fart sound effect for like? I know that was an okay, that was me, I believe. I was thinking about it the other day. I was trying to remember where I got it from, and I believe I got it from a torrent website called demonoidcom, which is like, because he is gone now, but you mean know it's gone? I think so. Yeah. That's why I want to make it very clear that piracy is very bad and I don't suppose it. I was a I was a young man, I didn't know any better and I'd know other way of watching the movie, and that is a in a sense, is preservation, not piracy. You wouldn't steal a car. Sure wouldn't. George Lucas deliberately made the darth theater suit top heavy. So Han Christensen appeared to be not to accustomed to it. In the movie, much of the volcanic eruption on must far as real footage of Mount Etna in Italy. I'll dumb, that's what you're from. It's true. I'm from that volcano actually, like you. The Motherland is Musta far for you. Yes, wow, I love going back to Mustafar anytime I can. Actually, they visit Mustafar in the rise Skywalker us. Didn't know. That is right, the gray planet where where Adam driver massacres everyone. The Best of these movies, don't they also cut to it in in rogue one is the implication that Veda's palace is is almost a far. Yeah, EAN McGregor, have Lucy Lucasfilm make him a loop real of all the Sir Alecinn as scenes from the original trilogy, so that he studied them and perfect both accident and pacing up his words. I found this to be wild. Every quane trooper in the film is CGI and not a single real clone costumer helmet was featured in the movie. And you can really tell is it on a big television but I will say I mean you can tell, but it is no more or less distracting than when you are watching any plan of war machine in in any model. Yeah, we're dawn. Cheetles head is just weirdly floating above the rest of his body. Yeah, most of the CG in this film and for my perspective really holds up, which is fucking crazy because it's very old at...

...this point. George Lucas originally intend to have peter cushing her prize his roles Grham off tarken years after his death for the use of stock footage and digital technology, but this idea was scrapped as the technology was not yet there. They would do some Roguean as we know, chancellor palpatine tragedy from maintaining power is known to a political scientists and it's called perpetual war. He comes to power through conflict of the Trade Federation, Gains Greater Privileges through the clone war and solidifies his position through war on the Jedi. And the sound of general graves coughing as George Locus's own coughing. After developing a bad cough during production, Lucas insisted that he did the voiceover I like that. I like it. It's him leaving his little thumb print on things. I do want to circle back to Palpatine for a moment and this perpetual war thing and just just Palatine in general's motivations in general. It never struck me until watching it this time, just how like kind of uninteresting palpatine's Ark is, because I just don't I just don't get it. It's just like you what, you want to be all powerful and then do what with it? Like he's like, I want to be all powerful so I can be president of everything. Like why is a rule? The galaxy to a company was to take over the world and Adams. Some men just watch what end on? Men just want to watch the world. No, but that's Fel is art. This isn't. This isn't this isn't about about chaos. This is about control, right, but I'm just I just don't understand because at the I mean as much as I really enjoy watching e mcdermot's performance in this film, I think he's really, really fun, I just don't get like, what does he want and why? Like, on on any level it's such a boring idea to me. The idea that he just wants to be president of everything for the sake of being president of everything, like if you, if you were the most powerful space wizard that's ever lived. Your you're going to take all that powering, like you know what I'd like to do? That I'd like to be president of everything so I can stand in a gigantic room and tell all these senators what they should do. Instead, you could go out into the infinite void and, you know, basically be a God and create life. I mean, he's just like you know. I mean I could create any kind of life I want with my infinite powers, but I've did I've decided that I'm going to create a shitty little teenager on a desert plant, like that's what he does with all of his power. He creates a shitty teenager and he becomes president of everything. That is the most boring man in the universe, I have to say. So. Is it supposed to be like a reveal that chancellor palpatine and like the emperor one in the same, because I think anyone with eyeballs would come to that conclusion. You know, I'm gonna go with no, given how they're like always too, like in Phantom menace there, like always too there are and then it cuts to like a closer in mcdermid plays palpatine in the original trilogy. Right and might I can't remember dom maybe you know, but is he called Palpatine in the original trilogy or is he just called the emperor? Yeah, he's just called the emperor. Okay, but okay. But then this is the thing, though, right, I'm pretty sure that around the time that this film was coming out they started referring to the emperor's emperor palpatine in like either toy for or marketing of some kind, because I remember before Phantom menace came out, I but reading the novelization of the film, because they sold the novelization of the film before the film came out, and I remember specifically reading the name like Palpatine in this book. And again, memories fallible, but like, I'm pretty sure that by the time I went to go and see the phantom menace in a movie theater, I already knew that that guy was the emperor from the original trilogy. And so there is no despite the like the film like behaves as though it's a twist, it is in no way a twist right. It's a reveal for the characters within the film, but not for the audience, I think. Right. That's again I would agree. Sure, what happens in the end is they all joined forces and everything and the Gonga's battle the droids, this huge kind of war on peace battle. That's great. It's going to be great. That's gotta be great. I want you to get out of this office right now. I'm sorry, is no way. You're brought away out. Sorry, we'll have him like burned and well, I don't even know who that guy is. I mean, as we see in the original trilogy, they want complete fascistic control of the galaxy. So that, I mean, that is PALPATINE's goal here. I agree with you, Adam, that there is really no why, but I think that this is a time when the Jedi are in power, and the why is, you know this as old as time. It's Sith. The sith need to gain power over the Jedi. Right, I don't know how it really well, I guess the idea that he creates the chosen one to get him in the fifth complete power. That's why he did it. That Dy's it up. Yeah, like why did he create Anakin Star Wars is so smart.

I love this. Well, I'm just a thing. I kept trying to ask myself and I don't have any kind of conclusion here. I was just I was wondering, and perhaps the three of you might have thoughts, like, do we think that Lucas is trying to say something about chosen one narratives to begin with? No, well, I so. Well, Trent, I don't remember if we talked about this on air off are. Actually I didn't talk with you, with you about it at all. I was talking with it with Clara Belle, friend of the show, who is on our phantom menace discussion, but she is a huge fan of Dune and that's pretty famously a, you know, subversion of the Chosen One narrative, and we were saying that we think that. I think the Chosen One thing is just a way for Lucas to be like, oh, look like he actually is the Chosen One because in the sixth movie he saves Luke. Isn't that fun? But it would have been a really unique thing for it to be about how everybody puts their chips on Anakin and then, because they do that and because they put all this faith in a chosen one prophecy. Everything false to shit, but that's not really explored and either the text or in the way that it's depicted on film. So I'm going to go with no. We were talking about how these movies are like about how democracy crumbles and how, like in the movie preceding, they have jar jar, like the senator like be the one who puts palpatine into power, and we're like this is stupid, because gearge was the stupidest person in the galaxy and you're saying that only the stupid person could be fooled. But it says more. If Pad May, you know, a smart person, is misled and it's like this is how this can happen to real people. I think that scene with pad May and Anakin where she's saying what if we are becoming the one thing that we were trying to stop, like if you were trying to do like a reading of the prequels, I think that is where you would look of Lucas being right the political stuff. Sometimes big deepest evil is right in front of our eyes and we just don't address it. And I think he's really interested in like how power corrupts people. Yeah, Star Wars is always talking about, like the dark side of the force is so seductive because there's so much power there. What would happen if it took someone over? And in the Prequel trilogy was when we finally see like what happens. And I think, I mean we'll get through one star reviews and then we'll just get straight into the movie. I think it's also telling that this movie came out in two thousand and five like very Bush Arrow movies. And yes, Oh, yeah, I mean the the bit way Anakin says, you know, you' either with us or against us. That's like that's a direct quote from books, I believe. Yeah, either weather she're with the anime. That's that's clear. I will continue to make that play. So once our reviews, yes, don't. I want you to start because I just saw the second one and I want to read the second one. Okay, one star. Worst ever animated period, Haden, Christiansen period, Keshik period, Kung Fu Yoda, sterile, what a wretched mess. I hated star wars after this. Why is could she singled out? Because it has it means. It's it's spelled incorrect. It is spelled through only two wide. I was I was going to say it was included because it has three wise in it, but this person has written it with two wise. So one star. Didn't order. I didn't even order this. Don't even have a DVD player. Existential Review. You know what even is a DVD player? All right, part you want this one share. So this from Mark Star Wars revenge of the Sith. Star wars revenge of the Sith. Yep and, and I think what's notable here is that one person found this review helpful. Helpful. So Swan's by Amazon customer and it's I all the CGI mess with the same one dialog and plot devices that ruin the original trilogy. And it reads the revenge of the Sith is the best of the PREQUELS, which is like saying that drowning is the best way to die. George Lucas letters needless CJI crap all over the screen. The dialog is stilted, wooden and laughable. The lightsaber duels are preposterous. George Lucas went zero for three on the prequels and all but wrecked. When the most beloved franchises of all time, the Force Awakens, at least right of the ship. But then the last Jedi and the rise of skywalker were complete cinematic failures. That's an interesting take. I don't often hear people who hate last Jedi and rise of skywalker. I find I tend to find people who at one camp pull the other, but hating both of them. I'll take people's preferences on the Sequel Star Wars movies really just says everything about them. I generally judge people's like general intellect by how they view the sequel trilogy. Like it's it's a good place to start, for sure.

Yeah, if if they think the force awakens is better than the last Jedi, I'm like, well, this isn't a podcast about the sequel trilogy trend, though, is it? It's the bits prequel winner, guys. All right, so do we want to get into the meat and potatoes, the thick of things? Let's go. All right, so on this show we have to talk about the good and the bad. And what do you want to talk about first? What's working or it's not working? Let's go with with not working, which is very little in my opinion. Are The say? Don't so you like love this movie? I I am. I think this is probably maybe the second or third most like interesting star wars film in terms of like what it's trying to do and what it ends up pulling off. I would say, I think the most. I'm talking about like the mediast sort of most, the deepest star wars films. I think you would start with last Jedi and then the second would be either new new hope or embers, empire strikes back. Probably Empire strikes back, and then I think the third would be this. I think it's like this is a version of star wars that I miss. Like these kind of like gigantic space operas with way too many characters and everyone is a superpowered individual. Everything is melodrama, soap opera like. I like that version of Star Wars and I think it really is cohesive in this film in a way that it isn't in the other prequels, and I hope that one day we get another star wars film like this one, because it's very fun. I did actually find myself thinking, like, you know, I would watch another film like this, yeah, which I know, which I not a thing I would have expected to think. I think that there's just too much stone wars at the moment and most of it is not, you know, doesn't really work for me. And so even though I don't think that this trilogy you will, you know these these three films are. They don't work for me and they don't not, no single one of them works for me in its entire see and I don't think that the the trilogy on its own works for me. But there's a lot of stuff in here that I did end up finding very interesting. Yeah, like it's just undeniable that there is there is something, there's something here that isn't in any of the other stuff since then, and I really do like I love the Force Awakens, I really love the last Jedi I and I've enjoyed bits and pieces of some of the Disney plus stuff. But I do think that the sort of internal reflexive backlash of Star Wars against the PREQUELS has led to sort of just a whole lot of stuff set on tattooine and I don't like that's that, like that doesn't seem to me to be the most interesting or rich place to tell stories. There's so much more to this universe. I'm glad we're getting away from kind of the skywalk of family and it's interesting to see other corners of other groups of people. I just wish they weren't always going back to the same sort of five locations have already been to the I mean this this film showing this film shows us, you know, it shows us a whole other side of star wars and I wouldn't mind seeing another new side of star wars personally. Yeah, when talking about like the first two movies, one of the thing which we were net negative on, we'd say, but what we were at least I found, was that it was interesting to see George Lucas just kind of go fuck it and like spend a hundred million dollars of his company's money and be like this is the weird story I want to make, and you really don't see that now. Not to like shit on movies coming out now, but they're they feel very market focused in a way that, yeah, I think that these movies, while they have their like pandering fan service moments, like I feel like there's a lot of George Lucas being like this is something that's interesting to me right now, and I'm just going to put this in this movie, yell or High Water, whether people actually engage with it or care about it, like I like it, I'm going to put it in there. And it's all like weird and like people like. Obviously I think that some of the dialog is a problem in the movie, but I find his weird way of writing people. It's also kind of like, as a kid you're like Whoa, that's like they talk like that in a different world and like that's kind of how I thought of it and it's like, I don't know, it like works for me in a way that I think like not to get into Disney too much, but like the Disney star wars kind of feels to it has to all feel natural and has to be what the people want. And I wouldn't say that I love or really like this movie all that much,...

...but like I do appreciate what it represents. Kind of this movie feels like it's made by a huge fucking Duke and that makes it a richer experience. is how I would summarize a lot of what you just said. Yeah, if I for insane action or cut just stuff. Actually, guys are green and blue baggers are red. That's just the way it works. So purple ect you see, you might get profle, especially the the the the depth of world building that no one asked for and the the way that everyone talks to each other, which is yet completely unnatural. I mean, having watched a lot of sort of like be sci fi from from like the s and S, like, it feels in line with that and I kept thinking while watching this it is actually insane that this is one of the most successful media franchises in like the history of media, like it is. It is insane, truly. Yeah, I want Star Wars to have this quality of like, like I said, like soap opera. It's like a high like like it there's royalty. They're like, you know, fighting for a crown. Everything is impactful in like you know, everything that happens is is going to change the course of the Galaxy, whereas I think the Star Wars today we're getting on Disney plus and everything is like very street level, like, you know, we need to get this one tiny little package across this planet. I don't want that. I don't. I'm I don't mind that personally, but I know a lot of people are saying, like we need to get away from the Skywalker Saga, we need to introduce new ideas. I don't want new ideas in the Star Wars. There's enough going on in the skywalker saga. I want to learn more about the PALPATINE's I wanted I want to explore that. That's what interests me. Well, I think that's true and not true, because I think the most successful spinoff was rogue, one, which was both within the skywalker universe and completely outside of it, and I think the counterpoint of that is Solo, which was pretty wholly uninteresting because it was too involved in the Skywalker Saga. Interesting, airport interesting. But to go back to what what don was saying, though, about about wanting it to feel sort of like big and operatic and dealing with, you know, the I mean it's interesting that like half of this film is like, in theory, a political thriller, right, and it's like shot like a political thriller. You know, there's all these scenes of people in like back rooms with you know, you know, lights coming through like slats in the windows and they're having, you know, hushed conversations about the future of the galaxy. I don't mind that stuff. I think it works on some level and I think a lot of what this film was doing works on some level. I think the thing that doesn't quite work for me, and that I wish was in here, and that would make this a much more compelling piece is if there was, just if the characters, I think we're approached in a different way. I think the film is lacking in in any sort of depth for the majority of the main cast of characters in this film, in particular Anakin, who feels sort of very one note and wishywashy. I think. I think you mcgreg is doing like a really great job, but I think he's like the standout performance in this and I it is like a gleeful experience to like watch his OBI Wan. But even then, I think because Obiwan is, you know, like a Bushido monk, as all of these like Jedi Ah, they are really lacking in anything else other than their creed. One of the things I wrote in my notes that we also talked about in the previous one, the previous prequels, is that I think part of the problem with these movies is that they're not they're not interested in storytelling. They're kind of just interested in explaining the lore and kind of like an encyclopediac way, and I think this, I think, the reason this movie works so well for so many people is that it's the it's the one that most resembles a real movie where I've like, like like George Lucas, cutting out like anakin turns because of some he thinks the Jedi are plotting and whatever, like making it okay, it's emotional like that is, I think, growth from the previous two films where he's kind of focusing in and being like this is what matters, and he's actually, you know, he doesn't have the phantom menace problem where there's no protagonist. There's pretty clear people leading the movie. I just think that the problem with it is that this is supposed to be Anakin's turn, but because we don't really know Anakin in the first movie and in the second movie he's like on and off a while, a whiney Bratt and annoying asshole and also sociopad a murder and the murder in that feel like exam people, women and children. You see, you have to start off...

...this movie again showing, Oh no, he is a good guy, he is a good guy, but I promise you didn't kill people, but then you also have to end it with him murdering children in cold blood and choking his wife I mean, like I don't think that you need to. You didn't need that, but like it does, you know what I mean, it does it that I feel like Lucas kind of is really actually cruel to the anakin character. I think that he maybe he hates him. I don't really I don't really know. Like I think he doesn't seem to to write him with with any indication that this is a character that he loves or cares about, I mean or any of the characters for that matter. But is particularly glaring when it's your like your hero who's going to fall from grace, because I think having this character go and murder children like that, that's just you know, you never kill kids, you never killed dogs, and whoever is responsible, the audience will never forgive it's just like those are rules that can't be broken, and he has that happened. Then you have him also kind of like basically killing his wife, which is also just hard to watch. And finally he has him get, you know, all of his limbs chopped off and then he's lying in the dust and cat she's on fire. I mean it's like, I don't know, I think I think George hates an kid. I never think this is that. I think this is maybe a person looking at the the you know, the beast he's created and and just thinking like Oh God, what if I done I got to destroy it all? Well, never know what George Lucas really think. I know he's a very unknowable, unknowable pass but it is said that like he sees himself in Luke in the original trilogy, and I think you can see that because there's so much love for Luke in those movies. Yeah, really right there. I mean I think there's a lot of love for Anakin in episode one. I mean he's portrayed. Is this like right as a kid? Yeah, like poor little kid. And but I you have to hand it to Lucas to being like no, like Darth Vader, is darth Vader, like he's bad, he kills kids, he is the enforcer for the dark side. Like Lucas does go out of his greatly bold moved to be like no, this is darth Vader, motherfuckers, like yes, you're gonna have a ll make a villain. Yeah, I think he had a problem presented to him. We're like Darth vader redeeming himself at the end of a turn of the Jedi kind of works because you by that point can kind of forget about what he's done in the previous two movies because it works within the context of that one movie. But, like he the problem with this movie, I think, is that it has to bridge into the Darth Vader we know from episode for and that is a very like it opens with him like choking someone to death and then like yeah, ramming like. So he has to find a way to make this likable guy become really awful and I think that is scary. Yeah, it scary's you know. And so if it's just some the main failing is that if you're turning to the dark side just for the person that you love, you're probably not going to immediately turn to these extreme awful things. And I don't know, I feel like he's not a good enough writer to have got done that like subtly. And so he's like, I guess I'll have him choke his wife. I think. I don't know, I know, I really I don't know if it's about quality of writing. I really think it is that he just has no love for the character. I really I think the you don't just some take. You have to. You have to love the characters you're writing about to write them effectively. I personally think, yeah, well, he was burning alive. Today I was like Shit, this is right to PG. It's pretty straight PG thirteen. It's the first one, is it? Yeah, yeah, I mean I hope it's for that moment because it's particularly intense and I'm and I'm not thirteen. You hope it's for that moment and the moment where he slaughter his children. Well, we don't see that, do we know? Yeah, you do see in the Hologram. Yeah, Oh, you're right. Let's like it's like blue. It's not real, like it's fine, master Skywalker, most score will quote, but true, many open. What's we guns, though, such a sad, sad scene, very upsetting. No, this movie is actually it gets a little metal, to which I've always said, and I've been published saying this, that when Star Wars is metal, it's good. The more metal star wars gets. And what are the metal moments? I Sir, I just want to interjecting to say that I'm pretty certain that that don't found. Don't got himself published saying that so that he could then, at late to dates, bring it up and say I have been published saying I have. Star Wars should be more metal. It should be and I did. That is my claim to fame on the website I write for. But this movie there is a sword fight on a lava planet...

...like it had. You want. How do you get more metal than that? First Great, it's good point. Is Star Wars ever metal? Again, there's this the pinacle of metal. Well So, the Colin Trevor O draft of the third sequel trilogy film was a very, very metal screenplay, and I think they are. They retain a few of those elements in the rise of Skywalker, but not really enough. I've there is somethink the the monkey that rebuilds Adam driver's helmet. That's pretty mad. I guess I'm trying to think if anything. Oh yeah, the the PALPATINE's fifth planet in the end of Oh yeah, film, Very Metal Planet, lots of lightning, darkness, palpatine being controlled by like a robotic like apparatus. Any good. I told you what kept Traishu. I was right. Jed. How take it over. The oppression of the fifth will never return. You have lost you now. Now, yeah, when Palpatine gets shocked by his own lightning and they depict the way his skin begins to melt, and it's all in CG. I would say that it is effective in the sense that it is horrifying to look at, but it is ineffective in the sense that the CG doesn't hold up. Also, his makeup after that, like the folds on his forehead, and also he has yellow eyes. I don't mind that. That, I don't mind. I'm just saying the CG effect of his face melting in real time is both deeply unpleasant and also doesn't hold up. It left him scarred and deformed. What are you? What are you looking for? Becomes start stidious. Fun Fact. That's my second memory in a movie theater. Really. Oh Yeah, my first, you first. First is the incredibles, which I was three. Good movie, and it's like this. It's Oh my God, I'm so old. It's the scene where it laugh after Mr Incredible and frozene got out of the burning building and they take off the mass again. That's amazing. My second ones his face get so you both have moot star wars for revenge of the Sith, related like monumasial and memories. Yes, yeah, and I get this is the first time it's coming out. But what else is the post for? I wrote down in my notes that Yoda looks terrible. Yeah, we can all agree, CG. Yoda's a big drag. Do we like see Yodos with a lightsaber? Because I personally do not. Yeah, I don't need it. I don't need it. Like I feel like as a kid I wanted it. Yeah, I did. Yeah, this is the thing. When I saw it for the first time I was definitely into it. But it's you know, you you look at these six films as a as a whole and it doesn't quite add up to have him doing those things. This is this is going to be stupid, but he's like eight hundred fifty years old here and then like clearly he's still able to do backflips and then within like the next thirty years, like he becomes an old, old man. It's like within the grand scheme of his life, this is like right. What second a thing with all three of these prequels that I don't think works particularly well is that, and it's classic sort of Prequel problem where it's just like every all the technology is more advanced than in the sequels because they had the technology to produce it in a way that looked more interesting and they wanted to play with their toys. And that it's fine, because those toys have led to, you know, been action films over the last you know, you know, over the following, you know, two decades. So, you know, whatever, you win some, you lose some, and also all of the sort of Jedi stuff is really, really over the top because they had the tech to try that stuff out and it doesn't track with the following three films because, again, it's a prequel and they had better technology when we're making it. You know, it's just stuff that it leads to tonal inconsistency and stuff that just makes you your head kind of spin if you think about it for even a second. I did sort of free myself from all of that on this watch because I'm so used to knowing all of that at this point. It's been almost twenty years of having watched this film, so it's just like I'm just over it and I'm not like bothered by it anymore. Led to a much more interesting and like fruitful viewing experience just to sort of watch this thing in a vacuum, I think, which does lead me. However, however, to one more thing that I think doesn't quite work. WHO's this blue dude with horns that hangs out with palpatine? Because I remember him from the three film and I but my only understanding of this person is that in the phantom menace, Palpatine and and pad may are like in the Senate together and they're you know, they've made their plea to Chancell of a lore and played by terrence stamp, and you know, the chancellor looks like he...

...might be about to sort of take action against the Trade Federation, and then the Blue Guy Leans in and whispers something and Palpatine turns the pad May and says into the beaureaucrast and like that's the only thing I know about this guy. And to the field, that the true. I said they're FEMINIC. Like what is his like? Who is he? What's his deal? So why is he here? He's actually really pivotal, because he says, in attack of the clones, if only senator I'm Adella, we're here. And then it cuts to the sad close up of Jarjar. But what senator would have the courage to propose such a radical amendment? If only senator I mean Dala Shash and that's what leads jarge are to give emergency powers, to a very moving speech, right. And then in this film he has like one line of dialog, which is when they look, when they when Palpatine hasn't killed Yoda, and he's just like, you know, double your search efforts or if you know, or if you haven't found the body, then then he's not dead. So he's like one line in each movie. But he also serves two different regimes that have two completely different political ideologies. It doesn't make any sense. If you could be any character in Star Wars, who would you be? I don't know. I like all the characters. Charge Oar banks, DA banks, he's so ye. Maybe Lucas is making a cynical statement on the nature of government and that you know, lobbyists will will hang around ago with whom the best supports there that the person, real Benisio del Toro, still still doesn't explain. Yeah, there you got. Still doesn't explain why he needs Yoda debt specifically, but sure. Well, that's the thing about these prequels, Adam, is that there is definitely a name for that character and a lot of backstory and justification and any problem that you throw at me, I can justify base. Find it in Wikipedia. Yeah, based on my star wars brainwashing like it makes, I have in complete sense that they would lose the capacity to fight like they did in this film because the Jedi order is squashed. There's no one teaching them to fight like this. Obi Wan grows old and I mean I don't know what more justification? They're the same with the technology. We know that when fascism comes into power, technology changes. I would say that in this case, you know, a lot of the colorful sort of advancements in technology are crushed by the empire in favor of a more like autocratic, sort of black and white society. I actually do by that. Actually doesn't any justific I can get. I can justify any problem you have. Look Dumb, I I'm just like you. Okay, I spent many nights, in many, many nights and weekends in in middle and high school just reading Wikid Pedias like it was learning about darth Bain Lagas and all of these, all these characters that of you know were in like one comic once, and yet I still feel all these other things. The Blue Guy, his name is Moss Amida, he is there. You Go, Chancellor of Valorm's vice chancellor, he's the Vice Johnson. He's go. See. There was a time parth and Trent that Adam was a very big star wars fans. I knew that Adam variant and the mighty have mollen there was it a transitional period, I would say in the past like three years, where Adam transitioned from Big Star Wars Fan like me to just some other person like everyone else, and I'm left here alone in my star wars fandom. Look, just because I don't read decorate very often, there is still a like one thousand nine hundred and seventy seven reprint Posta, you know, over there, and there is a force fx obiwan light say brover there with a couple black series figures. Look, I need to readecorate. But yes, with more star wars. I think the thesis statement of Prequel Winter for Parthen I has been like, all right, we both really like star wars, but how do we talk about it without seeming like Dingis has, you know, like isn't that the Balance Strike? Yes, it's a hard thing. It's a hard thing to like and a hard thing to tell someone else that you like. I have no. I've no yet, especially in the last couple years. I don't feel I don't feel embarrassed at all tell anyone. It's so that it's what I feel embarrassed. It is more that, like I don't want to, like I I'm out. It's like I'm talking about Star Wars here. I feel comfortable doing it here, but I basically don't ever want to. Took me so about star wars, but anyone ever ever again, like it's just like a fruitless thing that ends in peril. That's the way around you and me. I feel like the problem I generally have when talking about star wars is that it's like you...

...kind of have to find someone that likes the same star wars you do or like in the same way you do, because the problem is that it's like exponentiated so largely that like, like, you can have someone that likes any aspect of it and like, if you like one half and the other person likes the other half, you will never see eye to eye. The thing is, though, I don't think you need to see eye to eye with someone to have like a normal human conversation. I think she problem is that most of these people are fucking sith lords who deal in absolutes. That's the problem. The A sith would say that, oh, this is a time in star wars history where every everything that happens is on screen is going to impact the entire universe, which I very much like. Lightsaber battles in this film are, I think, some of the best in the entire franchise. I know people don't like the most to find out who many they have? Too many close ups in these Light Saber battles. Yeah, too many closes. I also feel like they go on too long. I think the biggest thing being a kid and seeing this that I remember is going to this knowing Obi Wan and Adnakin are going to fight, because we saw that in all the advertising. It's going to be really cool. Lucas's idea that like the to you know, most powerful Jedi at the top of their game and we're going to see a light saber battle like we never saw before. That is cool. But I don't know if I was just a very dumb little boy, but I didn't realize that that fight scene was going to be intercut with Yoda fighting darth sidious. But the old net fucking rum and all. Yes, that is it. Great intercut. I mean that's a great surprise. We didn't know that was going to happen, we did. We didn't know how that battle was going to end. Who Knew Yoda was going to fall down a tube and it's pajamas that was going to end? I love the he loses that fight and he's just like, all right, time for me to go live in a small and that justifies why Yoda is so old and wretched and empire strikes back. It's because he went to live on a swamp for like decades and lost his powers. The biggest thing that I think of why this movie is good is because in one thousand nine hundred and ninety nine and two thousand and two, the technology wasn't ready for George Lucas's vision, and now it's fucking there. It was ready to support the worlthy hand his mind, and the other two he couldn't help but make himself look a little bit dumb by the grandness of his own ideas. I also feel like he's dealing with the most interesting things, and this movie or like the most the things that matter the most to the characters and the other two movies kind of just feel like things happening to people that I don't know. I don't really care, and this one has like Oh, he's starting to Darth vader. Hang it down with that. I mean, yeah, this is the end of a trilogy. It's like all payoff. Yeah, I I just wrote in my notes that like this movie is like going one hundred percent, like pretty much the whole time, like they do not let you rest. There is one moment of rest. I'm actually glad you brought this out. This is one of my favorite moments in the film on this watch, and this is the moment where Mace Window has told Anakin go and wait in the Jedi Council chambers. We're going to go and take care of Palpatine. You need to stay behind. And and I can like looks out across the city and him and pad me like a looking at each other, but they're not looking at each other and everything is so quiet and they just like breathing at each other. It is the strangest, like quietest little scene in the middle of this film that I just found it so baffling to the point that I've been found it in thrilling and I now think it's one of the most important scenes in the Sif they keep in this movie, in the past movie, they keep returning to like a split diopter thing of Anakin in the foreground and pad me in the background and they're both facing the same direction and they're having a conversation. Yeah, no, just how las six soap opera have people don't the thing is, though, it isn't even split dialter because of the way that this film is shot, it's actually just two different shots of two different people composited together because they each you know that they were just shot in it's like speed Ray. So we're like everyone is shot in focus and then they just stack next to each other on a cartoon background, which they also do again, or Moustafa with with Obiwan and Anakin, and it looks so weird. Another thing I noticed, thanks for bringing up the mace window scene,...

...because everybody in this movie is always just like walking around waiting for the editor to cut to them, and and and and like that. It was most apparent in a scene like it's Anakin and the emperor and they're just walking around and I don't know why they edited it like this. But there's like like three full seconds of them walking silently and then it finally cuts into their close ups and it's like so edikin and it's so bizarre and I want more of that. I want more of that in Star Wars, more pregnant Paul Star Wars. Yes, yes. Does anyone have any closing notes before we enter the rating scallet on? I'm just curious. If I have no, I'm wondering hows anyone here checked out any the high republic stuff, because I feel like that's closer of this era of Star Wars than is that like an anything else, right? Or this is like Lucas films new thing? Yeah, that they they've got this new era of star wars and it's will set in this sort of like is it the prequel timeline? Is it before the prequel timeline? It's like it's close enough to the prequel timeline that Yoda is a young man, but okay, still far enough at like the events of the High Republic I don't think have much bearing on like the skywalker saga. I, because I've written about star wars a few times, to esquire they Disney, sent me like a bunch of the high republic stuff and I was like cool, maybe I'll like be a guy who reads like star wars books. But I page through them and like three of them were just clearly for kids. Are like like not even why a novels, like they were just like seems like for kids, and then the others kind of seemed a little bit kind of like Whya, and one of them was like a novel, novel, but they were all just written in such big text I just felt like such a weirdod like reading like huge books. The comic books seem kind of cool, but that's as much as I know about the high republic. But maybe maybe we'll get more of what you want here, doll maybe we'll get more of this like, you know, big operatic stuff with political intrigue and stuff. Well, there's that show coming to Disney plus, I think it's called the Acolyte, that I think is set in the high republic and it is like supposed to be like political intrigue and espionage that kind of stuff. So do you have them to do it? Well, yeah, I think so. I think the MANDALORIAN is fucking great. I mean overall I think most of the episodes were pretty great. Quality. I did not love CGI Luke Skywalker, but I do like like them going back to basics, as much as I want them to get back to, you know, the big sword fights on top of the mountains, like. I do enjoy that. They were like humble enough to be like, why don't we start from like just some guy in the west, like some little western and then we'll see what the rest of this fucking things going to be. I agree, I like a I think there's a lot to like in what they're doing there. Yeah, but I do, I do drop off any time that connects to sort of larger, larger stuff, because it feels really kind of it feels incongruous with the rest of how the show operates. That's when I plug in. Baby. What I will say briefly, like you talking about the Star War you getting cited about reading a star wars book and then they're being like eighty pages in the text being really large. I will say I recently went to Disneyland and I was really jazz about one to like the star wars part or whatever, and I will say you get onto the ride and then you're like shit, like they have tasked me just like pushing this rectangular button to shoot for the next like ten minutes and they're just like eight year olds going fucking hand behind me. And then, just like we've got ourselves obsessed with a thing that is not meant for us and that every day we are getting further away from from what they're looking for. But this is the problem with all of popular culture at the moment, is that it is all made for a baseline of everyone can and should be able to enjoy this, which means that everything you like needs to also be consumable by four, five, six, seven, eight year old, which means that if you get into it, which you're probably going to do, because they only make one kind of movie and it's this kind of movie, then at the end of the day, that you have no choice but to get obsessed with a thing made for, you know, eight year olds. That's not entirely your fall. You know, that is what has happened to popular culture. So you sitting there feeling weird about punching the button. As you know, the eight year olds are screaming their heads off. Like in the eyes of our corporate overlords, we are all eight year olds pushing a button. So I think, I think that that we should enter the reading scarlet and so art. You want...

...to explain the rating scoutlet and what happens there? It's really a dreadful wasteland. Sure. Wait, Oh, do we do the atomic bounce bombs sound effect? Yeah, so whenever we say the rating scoutlet, we drop like a nuclear bomb sound effect, and then at all the guests do like a scream, like like the explosion just hit you, and then when with the sound effect, it sounds really good. Okay, great, all right, I can't. I can't scream with wis no, no, like an fake little screen, like a nope. Also, it's a nuclear bomb, so your reaction should be pretty brief. So I was thinking about this earlier and in reference to your xenomorph you're the more yes inform summer. Thank you, frequel winners, the more summer all the same. Yeah, I in listening to all those episodes, whether in a deleted scene or featured scene, I made the observation. I was like, Huh, there's a there's a beat where someone begs for death and, like every one of these movies, yes, and it always hits home. You're like wow, they really wanting to die. Means means something. Yes, with the return of you know, with with with this new covid variant, I have, of course, been thinking a lot about alien fast game. Yeah, I've been thinking about that moment where she she begs the Zeno move to kill her, and it worked. To give me all night. You can be all right, just stay calm. Yeah, it's almost like the worst the status of the world gets the closer you get to alien three. Yeah, yes, just as a general trend, I think you should put a willhelm scream in during that ball. You can to take out take out my my flimsy voice, and just put Willem screaming there and right. Just take out my entire portion of this podcast and put willhelm screams for an hour and a half. That's the Chinese bootleg cut. Yeah, I don't want one. So the ratings gauntlet works a little bit like your rate it one out of ten. You Talk, you you would you recommend it to a friend? And how we watchable? Is the film dumb? You've been nominated. Okay, so I've rate it out of ten. And then where the other two things? How we watchable? Do you find it and would you recommend it? Okay, this should be easy for me. Let's see revenge of the sith. I would give give a strong seven out of ten. Would I really recommend what I recommend it to people? I honestly think I would. I would say, if you're getting into star wars, I think you should watch this and then the original trilogy and then Force Awakens and last Jedi, and that's it. That's where it ended, right. So yes, there's no others. And what I as I good, I was just gonna say. Isn't it a little bit of the of a curse for like your best installment to be the last one with like the pretty necessary context of the proceeding to because you can't like, you know, if a stranger on the street, you can't just be like, go watch revenge of the Sith, you'll understand what's gotten. Oh, I mean, can you? It is a Prequel, so we already know where it goes. We're just getting in this in so little like this. So the as we've already said, the characters don't have much depth in them to begin with. So it's not like you're missing much by having not seen the first two films. You have all the information you need this one's a bit whiny. He wants to be the yeah, the the Jedi master. They won't let him, so he's got weird feelings about that. There's an old guy that's like whispering, you know, sweet nothings in his ear. You know, there's you get it, I guess, like by making it so oversimplified, like they make it digestible, like just to the casual person who is like dragged into the theater without like who's not a longtime fan, which is kind of a beautiful thing about it, because then it's more accessible at the very least, even if it's just because it's mundane. That's true. I mean what I feel like what we want out of the Star Wars prequels is is the thing that happens in this film. I don't know that anyone wanted to see Anakin Skywalker as a like whimpy little boy, like is. Who wants that? But this is pod racing. The pad racing scene is good. Yes, fucking awesome. I Like I was watching a documentary about like the Phantom Mattis coming out and like the original poster of that, it's like little boy Anakin, and then in his shadow darth vade a shot, remember, and people were like freaking the fuck out. Yeah, very good, and I think that plays into what you're saying, in that people wanted to see like, like bad boy Anakin, like they wanted to see darth vader as a kid. How are you watchable? I mean it's...

...infinitely rewatchable. For me, this is like a bowl of popcorn for me, like I would just pull it, put it on just to like, you know, satiate myself, and it never it's never bad. Adam, step up to the plate. I'm going to give this my ratings pretty close to dome. I'm probably gonna give it a six, point five out of ten. I think really actually, yeah, I thought you didn't like actually, you know, you back on board. I had a pretty good time watching it today. Are Words out of an IAC. I wouldn't got that phone. You even heard the rest of I have to say. I'm going to reorganize your questions and because I want to talk about the reverywhchability. I agree with dom was very was. I found it be a very watchable film. I had no I enjoyed my experience watching it because the film was always interesting, because it is just so weird, like the quality we talked about earlier, like this being made by like a huge dog makes the film so weird. And again, as as as blockbuster films continue to get more and more like, say me, this, this like just accidentally, like through the passage of time, becomes like an interesting relic of a time that no longer exists. So I find it very watchable and I give it a six point five. For those reasons, I would not recommend this or any film with the words Star Wars in the title to anyone who has not previously seen any star wars film. If you are free of the disease that is watching Star Wars, continue to remain free of it, because I don't want you to suffer and I don't want to talk about this film with you or anyone or any of these films. Wow, I love star wars. For us, though, yeah, I love Star Wars. It's complicated. I wrote down and then in the middle of the movie that this is a hard seven, which I hold true. Part, like you mentioned earlier, this is the first time George Lucas like made like a real movie, and by that I mean like there is a general cause and effect from one scene to the next and I really appreciate and I really need a new hope. No, no, like, like what the prequels? But the PREQUELS, okay, and in this case I really appreciate it. Like and also just like bunch of people shooting each other the whole time I'm there less, I mean there's enough walking around and talking and rooms and showerver shot, but a lot of droids exploding. I think it says something that like, even though we didn't understand any of the dialog while we were respectively six like it. Something about it taps into every every young child's brand and like it's universal, like you can't. It has an x factor that, like, we're all here trying to put our finger on. It's George Lucas. That's the expected, for better or for worse. Yeah, out of ten, I'm like, I'll give it like a six, like, and then I find it very rewatchable, because I am not free of the disease. I Love Star Wars and I'll take what I can get. It doesn't matter what it is and what I recommend it. Yeah, like, of all the prequels, I would say this is the one that's like you can have a good time watching it. It's it's fun, it's good time and I think that, like again this like we mentioned, it's it's the one that has the stuff that, if you're a fan of the original trilogy, you would want to see. Yeah, but there's always this little part in you was saying, what am I doing? Charge as a key to Wallace. I forget. Charge our working because he's a funnier character than we ever had in anither movies. What? Yeah, we can't let it be cute. It's got to look rugged and rolls down. You want to do that or you want to have US punch, I do that. I'll do it. If you'd like me to come, that's up to you. Yeah, sure, I mean it's kind of rolling sideways in the dirt. Well, if you think it was seeing my face and it's worth having me do it, then probably haven't good. This is what January second discuss released. There's a first episode of the New Year. So welcome two thousand and twenty two year everyone. Happy New Year. Yeah, what comes next? That's that's nebulous. Actually, I think we're taking a hiatus for like a little bit. Right. Try. WHO's to say right? PODCASTING is a contact sport? Yeah, we honestly do not know. Trying. I don't have anything to plug. You do. Do you guys want to plug a little scene of the crime and then we can all get out of here go to bed? Sure, yeah, yeah, you can check out all of I of the duck scene of the crime, and it's entire. See, we've now finished that miniseries and I guess by the time this episode as will have probably announced on next mini series, but I don't want to announce it he just in case we haven't. But there will be more I of the duck every week, coming to your device every Monday and yeah, I hope you'll join us that. We come out...

...on Sunday's Day to the Lord and then you have I the duck afterwards. There you go, ungodly day, great double feature. Two Thousand and twenty two guys, I think is going to be the year of craft services and I of the duck. I agree. I think. I think we're gonna take over the galaxy and what we're going to do with that power I don't know, but it's about it's about the acquisition. Sorry, I'm just reminded of that moment when palpatine screams out unlimited and also that happens during the scene in which he's trying to convince Anakin that he is not like power hungry person. Part of why this film is is, as Dome says, infinitely rewatchable. Is Just palpatine. Yeah, like he's great in Les Karmit is main character of this film. She've old, Sheaf old, Shef my man, big fan of old and the other two prequels. I kind of hate Palpatine, but I am around on the palpatine wagon this time around. Yeah, yes, be Patine, good. The there's that amazing sound he makes when he does that, like corkscrew move. Yeah, yeah, it's treason. Then the caption said, growling snow, Snow continues. That's the sheaves sound. Should we should we talk? Okay, so mace window pulls up with three Jedi to face to face and the emperor, and let's just talk about how quickly two of those three Johni masters just go down. Well, I can justify this for you guys easily because I've looked into it. Sheave has clouded their minds using sith mine techniques. That's why he's able to kill them so easily and Kit Fisto puts up? Yeah, he does. Like. Yeah, spect of all, he tried last exactly one second we have. Personally, is a bummer because I think Kit Fisto is great and I would like multiples. Who is yeah, yes, he's very happy. So actually, this this, this brings up something I wanted to ask all of you. So all four of us are our filmmakers in one regard or another, and so, as you know, being a director of films, the way that the industry is shaped now, essentially the best you can hope for as a working director is to eventually get to Director Disney plus series that's a spinoff of a very unimportant character from one of the four IPS that they champion. So which star wars character that is the appears in this film. Would you be honored and delighted to be the director of what series? Like forehead guy, who's big forehead? You mean Kyati Monday? Yeah, pardon me, I like Kiati Monday. He's good. He's British. Adam sore spot, source, spot, I don't think they have English. Yes, but you have to admit he is very British. Everyone in these films are English because they make these films in equant. Let's good point. Wait, so what are some other minor characters on the Jedi Council that you guys want to what does it have to be? The council could be anyone in this film. I mean this is a serious question. I thought about this a lot throughout my life. There is a lot of storytelling to be done here. You could easily do a pod racing TV show. That would be very cool. I think if you did like a pod racing show or film that was just a fucking sports drama. Said Yeah, and Star Wars world like that would be great. Racers similarly, well, kind of maybe. I don't know, but you could do anything with it. Rocks, it's hot, race any any kind of sports, as he has such an effective built in formula, you know, and the Rock Lights Up. Insane. Yeah, put the Rock in it, sure, why not? Actually, my favorite character has always been plow coon, who he's like the cockroach face guy. Right, I guess, if that's how you're going to put it, well, he's got like annibals. Yeah, it's got that oxygen thing on his face. Oh that guy. Yeah, which apparently what's WHO's the New Star Wars man? Now at the Cowboy had a felony. Yeah, Dave Felony. His favorite characters, apparently plow coon. Great Mind, and he too to throw people off with the big Luke reveale at the end of Mandalorian. He actually had like a plow coon like computer generated shot, like on like drives and stuff, so hoping that it would get leaked out that people thought it was going to be PLOCON. That show was up in that scene. Well, red herring, I love that, but PLOCON is dead. He dies...

...in this film in order sixty six. We would never have bought that. I would never have bought that. I think order sixty six. That whole montage was pretty metal. The time has come execute order sixty six. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's a great run, Tige, I could watch minor jettis get killed on alien planet will never see again. Oh that's think a couple of those men look like like heavy metal album covers. Yeah, you're right. The commander, cody, like he's cool. I guess he's here. They're already made us maybe serious about it. That's for like kids, like that's that's for children. True, yeah, but that's but that's kind of you can't touch it. I'm talking like what's your seriously? Like one of the lava robots, like the LAVA SCOOP THE DO I want? Like a like a new gun ray, like my offensive taie accent. Like do I retcon that? What do I do with that? I think you have to Wrat call that. I think that we may see a revenge of the sith era hero appear in the book of Boba Fett. I wouldn't be surprised. I think that the secret. I think the book of Boba Fette is actually about things way different than what we're expecting. In the same way with the Mandalorian we had no idea baby Yoda was in it. I don't think they've shown us like anything from what the actual show is going to be about. I think it's either going to be about Boba Fett trying to enact his revenge on Hans Solo, or it's about Boba fette tracking down Mace Windo, who is still alive, living and hiding. Maybe one of his arms is a mechanical arm. They've all got mechanical arms. killed his father, beheaded his father in front of him. He would have every reason to go after him. Oh Shit, that's just yeah, totally forgot about that. That is a basics of anivation question for you guys. When when Boba fette picks up the head and Taco the clones, is the severed head still in the helmet? Yeah, definitely, or else really go? Okay, I'm just wondering. No, but like it should be heavier and they it should fall out. Yeah, they should have had a fall out, mcclassy. All right, well, I'll say I want to do. I want to do the I want to do the general grievous origin story. That's a great tim into that. They get into him a little bit in that, in that animated series, but that's not cannon anymore. That's a legend. He's great in that show, though. He is very scary. I want to be the filmmaker that depicts how he got asthma. Yeah, no deaths. Six is that? It's very funny. Is that the first? Is that show the first where they first showed grown grievous? I feel like I feel like that's yeah, I believe he did made it. He made his debut in that show, unless he showed up in some fucking action figure or comic or something like I'm ready for the episode to be done too, but quickly explain to me. Like we're like what the with the book of Bubba Fett is like, when's that coming out? Next few weeks, I do. Thanks, very soon. It really seems like with we're talking about DANGO FETT and we're like wow, they after gearge or didn't work out. They're like, whose are the fan favorite character ever, Boba Fett, let's just make him again. And then it seems like they did that with the MANDALORIAN and now they're like, just dudes in these suits, seem to be pretty successful. Let's do it again. Yeah, they're really banking on these mandalorian things, but it's pain off. I mean they made him very, very captivating. HMM. Well, I think that's about that on that. Yeah, I think we've covered revenge of the sith pretty well thoroughly. Thank you to our guests, Adam and dam, for coming on. Thanks for having us. Thank you. It trust pleasure of the century. Yeah, start out, two thousand and twenty two strong. Our forefathers will talk of, will tell their grandkids all about this. Remember, the dark side of the force is a pathway to abilities. Some making city unnatural,.

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