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Episode 39 · 1 year ago

OSCAR SPECIAL: BEST PICTURE EXTRAVAGANZA

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Parth and Trent rank the films nominated for Best Picture at the Academy Awards. They also provide their new, cool, audio editing.

Edited by Parth Marathe

Toentst. Do you like how crisp our voices, Trent? Yes, it's a good thing you mentioned crispness, because thanks for asking. I just had chips, oh, tortilla chips to be exact. We had some excess ones from when we were making Nachos and so I thought that'd be Yummy. What about you, Trent? Did you have chips? Good question. No, I just had a piece of grocery store cheesecake. But parthen I is newly the a mean our voices are always soothing. People come in for that, you know. Yeah, I know that that's our curb appeal. But thanks to some very valuable adobe premier advice from our friend of the show, Adam vol rich, who part can you want to give some information? Sure he he runs his own podcast called I have the duck, and if you haven't listened to it, you should. It's kind of it's kind of like our podcasts, but like kind of better. To Be Real, Trent, please come on, cracraft services, we know we are the cream of the crop, we are the industry standard, but yes, they are better than us and you should check them out. But Adam Vola rich, friend of the show, former professor of ours. He gave us some audio editing tips so that we could make our voices sound nice and crispy, because we came crawling to his virtual doorsteph we said, Adam, what are you doing to your voice? Is Is it just? Is it just your microphone? What sort of post reduction secrets do you know? And then he said he held a gun up to your head and was like, you stupid idiot, you think I'm going to give away my trade secret? But then he took mercy upon me. Yeah, and for that we owe him our lives a great debt. Other recent controversy about the show, there was some dispute between parth and I about whether the opening segment should discuss what we've been eating or what we've,...

...you know, been watching. We thought, since we were movie podcast, maybe it was like discourse the sake of discourse, and that to abandon the I don't know, the food related Pun in Our Name and we put up a pole and it seems like the people spoken. What did they say? Parth, thank you for asking me this. Tren. They sided with the roll of food. Yeah, I mean the people spoke. I'm not going to say I was right. People the people have chosen, and I guess we're going to continue this bit that Trent loves, for this kind of makes, you know, the opening like my onestar review. You know, yeah, Kinda. I think that's a fair trade. I don't know if it's a good aspect that, like every segment has, you know, this this theme of resent like under the surface. Yeah, like it's a kind of it kind of puts a weird tone to everything, right. Yeah, we're using a lot of film vocabulary words, me's on send allt or one hundred eighty degree rule, shot, reverse shot. Thanks for bringing up these terms, Trent. Is there any you know, the film terms, like anything important surrounding film, happening sometimes soon? Maybe a festival of sorts? Yeah, the the Academy of Motion Pictures, Arts and sciences, you know, each year they come together to say which people and which movies we should care about. And for that reason it's it's the our thirty ninth episode Oscar Spectacular, Best Movie, Best Picture Extravaganza. Put Your hands together, all right. So the PODCAST. Q, The intro. I'll probably cut that. Yeah, you should. Okay. Well, welcome back to our show craft services, a podcast, where we talked about the movies. Each week...

...we had we interview someone who worked on a film that we like. And but that's not what we did this week. We did something special, didn't we? Yeah, this episode is considered a special so thank you lucky stars, for a midweek release. I mean usually episodes come out on Sunday because you know, it's like the day of the Lord. Yeah, if you're not going to church, you might as well have some way to rejoice and or listen in Church. Yeah, and so the Oscars are on this Sunday when we will be releasing our interview with spider man to camera operator, just of Sissio, because that's not about right. Yes, and and we'll also give an explanation to how that episode was almost a lost episode, nearly the lost episode, but it wasn't. We found. So we didn't say that it was the best picture extravaganza for nothing. It's because we're here primarily to talk about the eight best picture nominees and we're going to rank them very similar to how we did our fincher ranking in our make episode. And part and I were talking earlier and we were like will darn, we've had fullblown discussion episodes about many of the nominated movies and we've talked to to like five people that it like. We talked about five movies that were eventually ended up getting nominated for Oscars. Well as of what's been released now it's only four. It's currently Chicago. Seven. No, Medland, man can promising young woman, but parth, I think you just accidentally teased and upcoming. Really, oops, did I do that? Yes, a nice way of saying we'll be talking to the Judas in the Black Messiah production designer, Sam Lesanko, and a few weeks. He was very nice. Yeah, it was. It was. It was a good interview, I would say. But what I was saying is that when we rank these movies, you know, usually we give a little blurb, but we're gonna we're going to sideline some of...

...the BLURBS. For that episodes that we've kind of already discussed will also be giving our predictions on what we actually think will win all these categories, versus are ranking, which is kind of just favoritism. As Trent said, we're just gonna one by one. We don't know the other person's readings, we don't know the other person's ranking. We don't know anything. We're clueless children riding off into the sunset. These are confidential documents, that part and I have just put in the Google drive folder and I'm just hoping under the cloak of darkness, he didn't go and peek in my google doc with that being said, Trent is, it is it time? It's time. Shall I start? Your number eight? So my number eight, I don't think this is going to be terribly surprising. It's mank Oh heaven. I was not a fan. You can you know. We did a whole discussion of it, but this is it brings me no pleasure to say that I was not a fan of it. It was very boring. It was one of my most hype movies. I Love David Fincher, but I'm sorry, this just was not it. Part one on record as saying it was his least favorite David fincher movie, which it puts you in an unenviable position, part, to be talking smack about about a higher power like that about one of my favorite directors. Yep, my number eight is the father. That's fair. In regards to the fall other I actually, which you just watched about ten minutes ago, this is true. Yeah, I thought Anthony Hopkins was great and the last thing I expected to do was go and see the father alone at a Wednesday morning matinee and enjoy myself. But but there I was. I had quote a couple of chuckles. But I said, besides that it was boring and I was waiting the whole time for to end. And, as we'll get into later, I thought, you know how they I mean I don't want to give too much away, but they did like sort of manipulation to like sort of like simulate what a person with Alzheimer's goes through from...

...and I thought that like made a point that like their lives are hard and this is kind of what it's like. But I didn't think it like built on that and any sort of meaningful way. It was just like sure, people are switching around and things are crazy and then you know, it kind of is just like a downward spiral and then it ends. I mean, I would rather have tenant been nominated than this movie, but I don't wouldn't we all? Yep, what's your number seven? My number seven is the father. Yeah, I saw this movie like ten minutes ago. It's a good movie. I think like Mank is the only film on this list that I would say that I like didn't like. I thought the father was good, but it was too repetitive. There were scenes that were really nice and really well done and, you know, it's kind of just an acting showcase for Anthony Hopkins, but I don't know that I really took anything from it, you know, thematically, narratively, emotionally, there just wasn't too much for me to latch on to. But still a good movie. I mean I would check it out if you if you if you have a family member that's growing old and they're being a bit difficult, it'll hit close to home. I think. If you have a family member with Alzheimer's, though, this movie would just make you very sad. That's it, and it's Weirdy don't and it's weird because that's like the target audience. One might think if you make, yeah, a movie where the main characters has like, you know, a common like disability, you'd think, Hey, maybe this is for the members of that group. But I think if I it'd be very frightening. Yeah, my number seven is the sound of metal, which going in I anticipated was going to be a heavy metal movie. Because that's kind of what the trailer makes it seem like, and it became pretty clear in the first ten minutes that it was going to be a learning how to go death movie, and I think it's interesting putting it right next to the father,...

...because it's both movies you know about, just like learning losing some part of your physical and mental faculties, but more so were. The whole movie is like learning about, more so a day in the life or like the inner workings of like these handicap people that that one wouldn't typically understand. And I think the sound of metals probably going to wind stuff, for sound does sign. And I thought rismed was good, but kind of did I have fun watching this movie? Not Really. Am I gonna go back and watch this movie again? Probably not fair enough. So my number six is nomad land, another movie I really liked, really well made, really well shot, and that was about it. It didn't really do much for me. I'm glad it was made. I'm glad a woman Asian director is getting a movie nominated and she herself is nominated. But beyond that it's good. Check it out. Yep, we have similar nice, peaceful feelings about no mad land, and which is why it's it's interesting that it's being nominated for everything and, as we'll get into later, it's kind of favorite to win most of the major awards again, but yeah, because that's how it performed at the Golden Globe. My number six is tild the Chicago seven. I re watched the trailer for most of these movies just like refresh my memory, and trial the Chicago seven I actually moved further away on my list after watching the trailer. I guess I had some sort of fond memory about it. I think Aaron Sorkin's going to win the original script. I think that's that's about it. I thought it might be a pleasant rewatch, but I think Molly's game is honestly a better movie. Blasphemy. Oh really, you feel this way? I think Molly's game is like a bad script. That's the only thing I've ever seen by Aaron Sorkin that I sort of really been disappointed by. It's a good segue to my number five, which is trial of the...

Chicago seven. I think I'm kind of bored of historical docu dramas a little bit. So you liked Molly's game. I mean that that was my I guess that was my dig at Chicago Seven. That directly applies to Molly's game also. Yeah, I kind of agree with Chilis Chicago Seven. I think I had more of a fondness when I saw it and since seeing it I don't really think too much of it. I think it's like a perfectly fine movie that like they will show in like classrooms. Probably it's PG thirteen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that seemed, I don't know, strategic, and I was watching a video talking about it. was with Aaron Sorkin and Sasha Bar Cohen talking about like it was like breaking down a scene or whatever, and Aaron Sorkin was just talking about how he just took like famous quotes from all these people and then like incorporated that into the court testimony. And I know you have to like take a grain of salt with all these dramatized versions of real events, but I just know that like Aren' The like real like court documents that actually say what happened? Yeah, but I mean I I'd rather he write it because it's more interesting that way. But yeah, also, a Carus, a minor correction. It's rated. Are Really is. It won't be shown in classroom. I think it's just like a couple of F F bombs, a couple of bombs too many. I always thought that it was one F bomb, but then I learned that it's too f bombs that are allowed in a PG. It can be three F bombs. The social network has three F bombs. Is it? Just like that's the the basic eideline for the MPA, but then they have to like put their stamp of approof all and everything, like in the the I think the MPAA is just a bunch of fuck withs who have no clue what they're talking about. Yeah, there wasn't even a pg thirteen until they saw Indian Jones in the temple a doom and they said, well, the certainly can't be pg because, you know, a man gets his heart ripped out of his chest. Golly Mama. Yeah, number five is nomadland. Well, so we...

...switched. Yeah, we've kind of shared our thoughts on this. What's your number four? Number four sound of metal. I really, really like to this movie. I love the first third. I really I think the first act is like the strongest thing in the movie because I think it does the most interesting things with like sound design it should hundred percent. When the sound mixing Oscar, it was really affecting and it like really scared me that I am going to go death, and I think obviously the movie is sort of out accepting that. It's sort of a how you can lead a fulfilling life beyond that. But I think it wasn't as gripping as the beginning of the movie. Still liked it, but I would say I as a whole really liked it. I gave it four out of five starts, or an eight out of ten, if you will. My number four was Mank, which I know payins part to no end as we discussed one of our collectively least favorite David fincher movies. But still I found myself, I thought, have I re watched any movie on the list, and and Mank was one of the few that I've gone back to, partially because I've been trying to find redeeming qualities. I least think it's interesting in the way that I trust me, I'm not happy about this either, but I don't want to say anything more. Well, what's going to what's we have a whole episode on make if you want to know Trent's thoughts on it? We sure do. My number three, would you like to know? I'm sure we have an episode on it. Not yet. Oh, Judas in the Black Messiah. Yeah, no, this was almost my number two. Oh Yeah, I think Trent knows how the rest of this countdown is going to go now. But nope, awesome movie, really, really well written directed. You know, it's acted, it's it's a great movie. I don't want to say too much because you're gonna we're going to record an entire episode on this thing, but I really, really loved it, but not as much as these.

Next to Trent, what was your number? My number three was promising young woman, interesting, which I thought I originally. I mean I didn't love it, I mean I liked it a lot, but when in when standing next to these other five, I it would have felt wrong for to not make a prominent appearance in my top three. So that would make your number two promising woman, young woman. Yeah, it would make my second Minari. I see, I see what's happened here this one, although I want to be clear. I think people now know. My number one's going to be by process of an elimination, naturally, but I think you could swap out my one and two. Really I think they're they affected me in really different ways. Minari, I didn't really expect it to hit me super hard, but it was kind of like a delayed fuse where like I was kind of like left in shock when the movie ended and then ten minutes afterwards I started crying. You know, I think I had kind of a personal reaction to it, me being son of an immigrant family and, you know, dealing with all of that stuff. I'm glad that there are movies now that are sort of being made about that experience because I think it's a very unique experience and one that the more people get to understand and sort of see in film and movies, the more they'll be able to sympathize and maybe even empathize with people that come from immigrant families and things like that. And we don't have a planned episode about Manari, but I'd like to talk about it at any point. But it was really powerful for me while I was watching and it kind of it kind of blew me away because I kind of didn't expect it. I kind of felt like it was going to be nomadland for me, where it was well made, really well done, but like ultimately left...

...me empty and it was kind of not that at all. But Trent, your number two. I was talking to my mom and she said they're very few of the best picture nominees are fun this year, and I made a point that my top three movies are the only three that I really had any level of fun watching. The preceding five are all good movies, but I feel like the best picture winner, I don't know, I think you should at least have a little bit of fun, if that's so wrong, and which I think is something that promising young woman did especially well. I definitely had the most fun watching that movie. But my number two is Judas in the Black Messiah, which I kind of think is sort of like the cool version of trial the Chicago seven. Trilotte Chicago seven is a very safe movie. It's not taking any chances really. Judas in the Black Messiah is a much more angry movie, as you know, as it should be. Yeah, I mean to breathe with this is an Oscar spectacular. It is interesting to think about how both La Keith Stanfield and Daniel Kohlu at the title, characters in this film, have both been nominated for a supporting actor. Total Bullshit. Also, total bullshit. Is the MINARI foreign film thing? Fuck that? Yeah, so, if a fuck that indeed, how exact is it? Because, I mean, was it? Oh, too much of it is. It isn't an English even though inglorious bastard's like defies that logic. If a movie is fifty percent or more in a foreign language than it qualifies for Foreign Language Category. I think partially it was also because they wanted to secure the foreign language Golden Globe and it had a better chance of winning that than it did best, you know, drama. But I don't know, it kind of upset me that that that happened on a really personal level because it's kind of bullshit and it kind of shows how, weirdly enough,...

I think no badland and Minari are both very comparable movies in terms of content, and this is meant to be in no way disrespectable to no mad land, because I think that's a good movie and obviously a lot of people work really hard to make it. But I think it's kind of telling that the movie with the white lead got to be the the main event drama and the one that starred Asian people had to be sequestered into the other category. But this is a fun podcast, so let's change the tone real quick. Yeah, so, with that being said, what's your number one? Hey, so this might be a shock. It's from Sing Young Woman. Yep, you, you, you, you. I think you gave this film a nine at the time. I think a nine is a fair rating for it in terms of films trying something new, that this is the promising young woman our. In a perfect world, I think this movie would get the best screenplay when because I think it's such a tight screenplay and it's really funny. It's got it's it deals with a lot of drama. It's got a really good tonal balance. It's a really tough balancing act. It's kind of sucks because this kind of happens every year where only serious films are our best picture nominees, and I think it's kind of interesting to me that this was even nominated for best picture. I wouldn't necessarily, you know, say this is like, Oh, obviously that would be a best picture. I think the academy was kind of nervous about what might happen if they didn't nominate this for best picture. Is it because it's clearly deserving, but it's certainly a more casual tone than every been anything else on this list and the only thing at any point outright attempting comedy. Yeah, and I think that of all of the other movies, which I really liked, but they're dealing with some really...

...sans Mank, they're dealing with some really important social issues, and this is the only one of the this is the only one of them that I think deals with it in in like a fun way that doesn't detract from the seriousness of the issues that they're dealing with. MMM. And I think that that tonal balance is an incredibly difficult thing to strike and the fact that they hit it it's nothing short of a masterclass in in writing and directing and tonal balance and acting, and it hit everything correct. For me, I think it's a perfect movie and it's you know, it's going to be an inspiration for the years to come. So I think what you're saying about tonal balance really plays in to my number one which is Manari, and which I'm shocked by because you texted me, or Trent texted me when he came back from the theater watching it, and you said you liked it but didn't love it. I don't I let it digest a little bit and I was like you were saying, about tackling a serious social issue in a fun way. I thought this was the best balance of those two things. I think this isn't me saying that I think Manari is going to win best picture, because I don't think that that's going to happen, but also I didn't think that parasite was going to win last year and I think Manari is in kind of the same position that parasite was. They're not going to do it two years in a row. I'm not expecting that either. An interesting kind of observation. I Mat it was grouping together the sound of metal, nomadland and Manari kind of it just in terms of like the the Docu drama, kind of like just following around like you you're not supposed to feel the filmmaking at all, and I thought Manai did it well, where I just felt like it was a lot of sunrises and nomad land like, even though like I don't know the handheld Cam Mara, and just like going through kind of basic chronological storytelling,...

...like I see what it's going for. That it's all about the characters, like witnessing their environment, and in Manai was the only time that I liked that. Yeah, and I a can like I feel like we get put into this weird position of hating on nomadland where, well, like, I don't think either of us we feel positively towards nomadland. I also don't think that we're necessarily tart the target audience for no Maadland. I think like our mom's that target audience for no Maadland, and I know that because my mom fucking loves this movie. Yeah, and I but, like with Manari, I would a hundred percent agree that I think that it does what it sets out to do, I think, as effective as it possibly could. I got up much more personal connection with this movie than I did with almost every other. Obviously the other six movies on the list. Both both promising young woman in Minari, both hit me in a very personal way because they sort of dealt with those issues in a really tactful way that isn't going to be off putting to an average viewer, which is what I think a lot of really good movies do. A twenty four is involved the promising young woman I'm a wrong, I don't is it? I'm not sure. Well, not important, but I know that a twenty four is is involved in Manari. But basically I'm trying to say is that Promising Woman, Judas and minars not all right focus features. I think those are the only three like aiming at a younger demographic, like and, and I hate to say that that mank does not make this cut off, despite, I me, like a claiming DA adventure for making new age content. I think the rest of them are just kind of like like for definitely like for like an older audience, and I think part of that could be like why they're doing so well at the Oscars. The voting base is really old. This that this is true, and which is kind of why these three that are on the top of our list were often predicted that they wouldn't be featured at all. Yeah, I...

...mean, they're also all prominently including either women or people of Color, so that might have something to do with it. Yeah, I think part of the reason why I want, why promising young woman, I have that as number one, is purely because it's kind of a genre movie and it's like the one with the most sort of fun lot and the Oscars don't like that. I don't know. My parents have been dragging on the Oscars for basically having movies that nobody's ever heard of, and I always fight back saying, well, some of them are really good movies that people should hear of. But there's also part of me that agrees with them that they're kind of snobbish. I think the problem is that, like the point of the Oscars should be exposing movies that you wouldn't have been able to hear of any way. But they're really like prestige pictures, so the Oscars is recognized in the them and thus putting them in the public eye. But I think the problem is that how predictable, like best picture has. I don't know all all that. Really the only category where there's any room for something you haven't heard of is the screenplays. That's the only place where or the special effects like. That's where they snuck in tenant or if there's one are if they have really special sound design, they're just going to give it a little, a little nod. But sure in terms of introducing new things, I think I mean that that's the last thing the Oscars is doing. For me, yeah, it's ever forcing me to watch the father at I don't know wit. Should we? Yeah, should we? Should? I think we now we should talk about what we like is going to wait. Realistically, is going to win? I think we have the same answer, but I think we should say this no answer, and then the same answer and then come up with a backup if it isn't that okay. So I think we both think it's going to be no mad land. No mad land. Yeah, and what is your plan? Be Land? That now what you want to happen.

But it but yeah, no, Um, I think there's a solid case to be made for trial, which I don't agree with, because I think it's like a perfectly fine it's like a fine movie, but I don't know, it's historical. I would love to say Menari, but I know it's not going to happen. The Oscars would never let that happen. We thought it wasn't going to happen last year, two years in a row. It's not going to happen. I don't know. I A few months ago I might have said make but I feel like that's sort of lost in the conversation a bit now. I mean skipping forward to the best director conversation, I can pretty much guarantee. I mean this is the ones going to be chloe jowl. I was going to say this is the one that David fincher has the best chance of winning, and he's definitely not going to win it because it's because chloe jow is going to win. Yeah, I think it can also be said that original screenplay is going to go to storkin over promising young woman, which is a fucking travesty, and adapted screenplay is going to go to no mad land, despite, I don't me not thinking that the screenplay is one of the best five things about that movie. Yeah, I would agree. What about cinematography? Because I think it's going to go to no mad land and I think it's going to go to now no mad land, to I judic in. The Black Messiah. Definitely had was the only movie this year where I paused and I was like, Huh, it's really interesting shot, I would say. I mean I really liked promising young woman, but promising a woman. I didn't think about the CIMITARIROPHY at all. I thought, like, I don't know the technical elements of fincher. I thought, Oh, maybe mank could win this, but I don't think it's going to happen. Yeah, me neither. Yeah, I mean it's looking to be a nomad land sweep, as it were. Pretty much is that it. Did we do it? That seems to be our Oscars special spectacular. I guess we should talk about what comes next. Yeah. Well, obviously this is a midweek special and this upcoming Sunday we're going to be back to our normal weekly scheduled programming. We've got Joseph CICCIO lined up. He was second unit camera operator for Spider Man Too, and spider man three and spider...

...man three among many other cool movies that we end up talking about. And that was, as we've mentioned, a lost episode. Nearly and then the week after that it'll be US discussing spider man two, with I have the duck cohost, cohost, and well rich, which is tomorrow where we're going to be recording this on the day that this episode comes out. Trent is that are we done? And then after we finish, and then after that's Judas, and then after that's before sunrise and then we're out of ideas after that. So then, and then we can't wait Trent instead of releasing all of these interviews that we've recorded. Yeah, that way that we've worked really hard on right, right, right, like on procuring and like, like coming up with questions and sort of dealing with all this shit. Like what if we just like never release that? What if we never release this episode? I don't you think it would be the third the past thirty nine episodes. Would be in vain to stop right before the forty episode, as if the FIT, as if the fifty episode milestone. It's clearly impossible. We can't even get the forty. I don't know, guys, you're just going to have to find out. Is The podcast canceled? On our show craft service it wait, if you don't mind, you should rate and review our show. Please do. Follow us on Social Media at Craft Service Pos odd or on instagram at atcraft services podcast. Yeah, but if you could write a review, that would be it'd be nice. Give us five stars please. Yeah, if you don't mind, I was thinking maybe we should do this part at the beginning, because who want Earth listens to the last thirty seconds of any any God given podcasts? But if you've come this far, clearly you like something about the show, so show us, tell us, and if you're and that you know minority of people who wants us to talk about what we've been watching rather than what we've been eating, you're allowed to...

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