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Episode 69 · 10 months ago

THE DEFINITIVE MUPPETS FRANCHISE RANKING

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Trent and _____ analyze and organize, all 8 Muppet major motion pictures. What is the podcasting equivalent to playing with yourself? 

Edited by Trent Algayer

Kermit, how long it's opening credits to one another? Minute at all. My ears are popping. I wonder how far are you good plumbing before you're blacked out? Well, don't try it gone through. We need you for this movie. Sure is tempting, kermit. WHAT DOES B SC stand for? See A lot of people worked on it movie. This is nothing. We don't you see the end credits? So part, what have you been eating? Well, Ladies and gentlemen, if you hear that silence, it's because part Maurrate, cohost of the show, is not currently present, and that is for reasons that we will get into. But in the meantime, let me just share that the last thing I ate was a smoothie. My friend who lives with me, Tamera, front the show on the other day found out that we have a segment of the show where we say what we've eaten most recently. She said, Trent, it's now that you have nearly seventy episodes. Have you just said that you've had a smoothie like for every meal for the past year? Because she's witnessed me make one too many smoothies. Apparently, he'll me when I tell you if you've been a long term listener the show. Most of my intake, most of my fuel, comes in the liquid form, similar to a car. If you can hear that noise in the background, it could become from a couple different sources. Number one, there were there's a guy. I live in New Brunswick, you know, like college students do, the dirty bronze for short, and there's this guy like right across my alley, like every New Brunswick shitty apartment has a creepy basement and then a creepy alley and across some ore creepy alley, I was playing really loud rat music and he does this a lot and usually it's not that big of a problem and she's like a mild annoyance. But today I was like, if this guy doesn't stop like it's actually going to be a problem with the pod and the fans at home are going to be pissed. And so I worked up some courage and I stuck my head out the window and I yelled like three or four times like hey, can you please turn the music off? And let me tell you, there was no response or recognition of my comments. But around ten minutes later the music was suddenly shut off, and so don't know about a direct cause and effect there, but I believe the music is currently off. Can't say that I had anything to do with it. Can't say the guy heard me. It's probably just a coincidence. And if you hear some like fat base tracks in the background, could be could be my neighbor just chiming in the other noise, there's a man shouting in the background and that's because there are some construction men in my backyard, because we noticed early on our lease like a scratching sensation and like above us in our attic, and we are nervous that it might be like rats or something, but soon we learned that it was squirrels and like there's like a comical amount of squirrels that be in our attic, and so we told our landlord because like we're sympathetic to the squirrel cause, like we want them to have a house. But I told my mom and she's like, squirrels aren't a good long term plan because they're going to pee and then that's going to like be absorbed into your ceiling and then you're going to breathe in the Squirrel pee and that'll have long term effects. So we told the landlord and she sent these people over and they've been here for the past three days and they seemed to be patching the holes, but the squirrels are still very much up there, and so we're worried that they're going to trap the squirrels in and then our new problem is going to be hearing the squirrels screeching, like with their final breaths, and then then we're going to have a new issue, which will be like a rotting squirrel sort of thing, and then we'll have to have a new group of dudes set to come undo the new holes to then go in and get out the dead squirrels so we can continue to have our shitty apartment. The if you hear anything over the next hour or so, it could be that. Also, if you hear any like suspicious long pauses, it's probably because I fixed if you've ever heard the expression fixed it, fix it in post editing is going to be overused here, as I'm only one person and podcasts or typically two or more people, and so when I run out of things to say, I'm going to have to wait a few seconds to think of a new train of thought, because uusually I have like minutes while part is rambling to think about my next...

...thing instead of listening to his insightful remarks. Also Youtube to MP three. Shout out to them, because I'm going to use a lot of your copyrighted clips and songs today, largely because there's no second party and so I need something to fill the space when I run out of things to say. Well, if you've been listening, you may have heard that this is our sixty nine episode. Craft services, are podcast has almost nothing to do with oral sex. Another to our topic for today, the muppet ranking special, where I rank all eight of the muppet motion pictures, ranging from nineteen seventy nine through two thousand and fourteen. Actually, we can cover this after the introduction music, but here's our open here's our intro jingle. This is weird, but welcome back to craft services, our podcast where we talked about the movies. Each week we interview someone who worked on a film, I mean, and then we discussed that film, and it's pretty cool. But this week we are not doing that. Usually I'm just fifty percent of the voices on the show. Today I'm one hundred percent. It's part murate gets the week off. There's a lot to be said about the Solo Pod as a concept, because we are aware that it's pretty absurd. And how it came about is because there's a podcast I like and I bring up every once in a while called the rewatchables. There watchables is a show from the ringer podcast network and they're hosted by like Bill Simmons and Seawan fantasy and company. Shawn Fantasy, I very much enjoy the the work of but they covered castaway. You know, if you know it or not, it's Tom Hanks and he's alone on an island, and so just one host, the main guy, Bill Simmons, did the episode and he talked for just like an hour and a half straight. That like goes against everything that podcasts are supposed to stand for, because it's like just a totally a bad idea. Together book. Yeah, Gee, it's good to be together again. I just can't imagine that you've ever been gone. It's not starting over, it's just going on together. We're here and there's two need remembering feelings like that. Parth, if you may, you may know, really likes Tom Cruise and along without he really likes the mission possible movies and we once talked about part wanted to cover like all seven or eight, however many mission a possible movies there are, and I was like, Dude, I've haven't seen one mission possible movie. Like that's a huge commitment, like that is like three or four months worth of podcast episodes. And so I threw it back at him and I was like, part, that would be like if I said we were going to do all eight muppet movies. It's part has never seen the muppet movies and I can't say that they're particularly his cup of tea. That led us to thinking, okay, if we ever wanted to talk about our area of study, that would require too much background preparation for the other host then we would just do two separate solo pots. So we only have the next few months planned, but around the hundred episode Mark You could perhaps expect something of that variety from parth, because it's going to need to be another hundred episodes or so before I attempt to do this again. But what I can leak out we about what's coming next, and this is yet to be announced. So if you're hearing this, congrats. Usually we were do the big reveal at the end of the episode, but just in the interests of time and in the interest of inverting everything we know about podcasting. Well, part then I have lined up for you is what we've been calling prequel winter. And, as many of you may know, Star Wars is a franchise, and speaking of really extensive franchises that a lot of people don't have interest in, parthenize like ven diagrams of movie watching, overlapping, overlap, somewhere in the vicinity...

...of Star Wars. Our first two episodes of the show, ever, we're Star Wars Force Awakens and Star Wars last Shoedi with storeboard artist carvander bash and our original plan was to start with like doing all of the star wars movies because we weren't exactly sure how the format of our show was going to work and how easy would be to get interviews. And after we got one star wars interview, were like this is easy money, and then basically from that point on we've just had to pick and choose with our interviews because, like they're kind of hard to get and it's not like we sent out a bunch of emails at once and then we do an episode on whoever whatever, good guests response first, and so we didn't have the organizational skills back in the day to arrange like a big long term conspiracy with like a sequence of movies. I guess we did do this with John Wick one through three. So good for parth on the scheduling front. But we've come full circle in that this upcoming winter you have six episodes coming your way. Three interviews. The first one will be Star Wars, a phantom, the phantom menace, storing darth Maul. Our interviews with storeboard artist bent in Jew and it was pretty great and we were thinking we haven't done discussion guests in a while just because part and I have kind of found a good rhythm of just shooting the Shit between the two of us and we wanted to have our discussion guests more be like experts, experts in in quotes, just because up to that point we've just beten. We'd had episodes earlier on where we were just like yeah, we just need like a living, breathing person who kind of considers themselves our friend to make this episode more interesting, and sometimes that would backfire. But we thought in the sake of fun, we would have a series of discussion, guess with some level of expertise or strong opinions about Star Wars prequels. And these are not movies that I have watched in a long time, since I was like a child, and I kind of remember them as nonsense and people don't seem to like them. But parth and I are adults now and we're excited to watch the movies with a fresh pair of Oz oh. But to continue, we also had an interview with a storyboar artist for attack of the clones, Mark Sexton, which was like fucking dope, like we just did that one the other day, so I'm still pre jazzed on it. But he told us his meaning Tom Cruise story classic. He told us a story about him meeting Francis Ford Coppola. He worked on Mad Maxter road and we joked he was working on star wars, fandom menace and George Miller's Mad Max at the same time and with sleeping for like two or three hours a night, and we laughed at him that he was getting tossed between he was struggling George's you know. So that interview was great and our revenge of the sith guest was first assistant cameraman, Matt toll and he worked on some other cool projects like Superman returns mission possible to the Matrix, matrix reloaded. He worked on the thin red line. Who worked on Alien Covenant, worked on Deep Blue Sea. Shared some pretty fun stories about that. So I guess stay tuned for those. If you like the star wars or prequels or any of the above. Those episodes will take us through the new year, I believe. I think parth wants to do like an end of the year special, kind of like we did last year where we just like talked about our favorite films of the year, but we also did an Oscar special, and so I think going to try to convince him to try to do something fun for the end of the year special and so just we can have the best movies of the year conversation with the Oscars, just to avoid any unnecessary conversational overlap. But these are exciting times to have a podcast, not all podcasts, but this one in particular. If you've follow our INSTAGRAM, you may I've heard about our team deacons Internet duel in that we have a long term running joke with esteemed cinematographer of such films as Shushank, redemption and one thousand nine hundred and seventeen. There are additional examples, but Roger Deakins has a podcast called team deacons and he has on some of like the most talented people in the world and his podcast is almost identical in concept to ours and it originated just a few months prior and we like to joke that team deacons stole our concept. The real the the the duel came to a head when guests of our guest in front of the show, Alvin Kukler, the cimitigrapher of Steve Jobs, went from being a guest on our show to being a guest...

...on the team deacons pod. So, like I understand that he had a big opportunity to speak with like one of the greatest living visual geniuses, you know, of the last a hundred years. But a little bit of a cellout moment. Really appreciate you coming on the show and if the members of the team deacons pod need to come on to our show to settle this dispute, I think that would be the most democratic way to settle it. Until then we're at war and if any people from the team deacons legal team or council, or listening to this, you can called out craft services incorporated has a lot of money to back up these bolt claims. So do not test us, wife like a movie. Write your own ending. Keep real leaving, keep pretending we've done just fart. Sorry, I got on a little bit of a tangent there, but even though we're already fifteen minutes into this episode, we're here for a reason today. Let me blow my nose, but then we'll talk about where we're here. Okay, so the reason we are here today, as I alluded to earlier, is to rank all of the muppet films. Or actually, a lot of clarification has to go down here. We are ranking all eight of the muppet major motion pictures. There are a lot of muppet TV movies or things that are like forty or fifteen minutes that, you know, one might argue is of movie variety, but this is movies that were, you know, distributed widely in theaters and not at home releases. Just to get US started, the eight movies we will be discussing about most prominently today are the muppet movie, the first in nineteen seventy nine, the great muppet Caper in nineteen eighty one. The muppets Tate Manhattan from nineteen eighty four, the muppets Christmas Carol Nineteen Ninety two, the muppets Rotcher Island nineteen ninety six. Muppets from space nineteen ninety nine, some argue, the greatest year in cinema history, all these modern cinema history. But muppets from space being released then certainly doesn't hurt their case. The muppets reboot, or just quote, the muppets from two thousand and eleven and then the muppets most wanted in two thousand and fourteen. And part of what inspired this conversation, or not conversation, this monolog just for a little bit more context, is in early October I got the covid nineteen and I couldn't leave my room for like two weeks and so I thought, okay, life is pretty dark right now. The only thing they can bring me out of this like emotional hole is soup and watching all the muppet movies. And so within the span of the the worst of my illness, over the course of like four days, I think I watched, must have watched fifteen or plus hours and muppets content. So I was really benching because I've always I've always liked the muppets, but also in a childlike wonder sort of way, just in like there are good things in the world, when you were coughing a lot. That's what sort of sent me down this rabbit hole and gave me this initial idea, because I was planning to record it while I was very sick, because that would make sense because oh isolation, even though part and I often record separately. Anyway, it was going to be that Trent is in a box and physically he is nothing to do but watch all them up and movies and then talk about them to himself. But I was very ill and I didn't have the time or really the inspiration and or the not the know how I could have done it, but I every moment I chose not to. But basically I push this down the line for now about two months and we needed a special episode after our big dark night week and before prequel winter kicked in, and so parth slotted me in for a little Solo pod and it coincidentally fell on the sixty ninth episode. We won't spend too much time on that, but six and I is a silly number and so we thought we might as well do a silly, off brand sort of episode, sort...

...of like April first, you know. Yep. So Oh. Another thing is that in recent Muppet News, if you are Disney plus subscriber or you use your friends account like I do, you may have seen that the newest muppets project to be released with muppets haunted mansion, which came out at some point in mid October, and it's about forty or forty five minute, maybe fifty minutes long, and I was preparing mentally when I saw it announced, to include it in this discussion and then I watched it yesterday in preparation and it was not long enough, and I mean not split hairs, but it wasn't particularly good enough to be involved in this. But also, if you look up muppet rankings online, like the Disney plush straight to releases aren't counted anyway. So I wanted to play it by the rules a little bit and only cover the core subjects. I will slightly add about the haunted mansion. Sorry, breath. Okay, so I what I will mention about the haunted mansion is that over the summer I went to Disneyland and as a child I was taken to Disney world and I was at the age where I was scared of everything. Me and my sister didn't want to go on any of the scary rides because that's at the age were like everything is terrifying, and so all most of what I remember Disney is like my dad coming off the tower of terror, while me and my mom and my sister like sat by the Waiting Area and like we were all jazzed and we were proud that my dad got to go on the rides because he was braver than we were. But time has passed and basically, once I got a little older, I looked back on my time and the these amusement parks. Now that I was I wasn't having nightmares about Edward scissor hands every night. I would watch youtube videos of ride along ride along footage from the Jurassic Park ride at universal or whatever, and I'd be like fuck, that looked awesome. I should have done that while I was there. And another family vacation isn't going to come anytime soon. Thought as an adult that I should go all the way to Disneyland to go on all of like the more mature Disney Rod's that I could really appreciate as an adult. Let me tell you. I got to Disneyland. It was in August. It didn't take long for me to find out that the haunted mansion, the right I was most excited about or up there, it's closed for renovations and preparation for the Halloween season, as they were putting nightmare before Christmas, sort of a spin on it, and I was truly bumped. But while we're here, Disneyland was still pretty cool. But it doesn't include any muppets related to attractions like Disney world does. They have a ride called Muppets d but since Disney owns the rights to this intellectual property, many argue that they are squandering it. Because they will get into this in the brief oral history that I'm about to do. The muppets were acquired from the muppets were acquired by Disney in two thousand and four and there's a CEO switch off from Michael Eisner into Bob Eiger, if you know, if you care anything about Disney CEOS. And basically, over the past fifteen years there had been pretty scarce muppets releases and what there's been has been sort of a mixed back. So I think I'm going to do what I can to go into the production history, which I've labeled the brief oral history, just because we're covering so many movies, and usually we do one in depth production background of the one film and do fun facts about the one film, and now we are covering essentially Jim Henson's entire career and at least eight movies, plus a bunch more than I might mention along the way. So it's a little help from wikipedia. I have assembled cheat sheet of talking points that I'm going to attempt to summarize a very smart creative man's career. It too, you know, just a few lousy paragraphs. We a my matre of the cows back there. Yeah, now, those cows, those are real count I mean those are cows that are out here. They eat grass, they you know, they they give no, those are count. Well, I don't give milk, but I'm a bear. No, no, but a real bear is a sort of a thing with he's got sharp teeth. Any any have no, wait a second now, way you have sharp teeth. I don't have to dummy. Do Hiberna well, only with friends. I think you're not a little bear. Now, wait a minute. Now, look, I fear in my very bone, but you don't have you very know. No, no, I am a that die. I don't even do don't even have bone. But I what? You don't even have bones.

What do you I don't have, I mean a real bear head bone. What do you have? You've got sort of a sort of a fake burup. You've got pom rubber. What. Well, I mean what I what's would you say? What? You Got PM rubber and faked PURP. You're not. You're not apprecial bear. You're telling me I have home rubber. Have you ever seen a bear with a Magenta though, I got a move lash for you, kid. What broad what you want to hurt you? What? You hurt me? I'm gonna have to hurt you. You're ready for this? Yeah, are you ready? Yeah, yeah, why are on your arm? What? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say it, but I didn't mean to hurt you. By why are my arms? Yes, but it's the only for movement. Okay, so here we go. Basically, Jim Henson went to the University of Maryland. I bring that up only because when I was touring colleges they brought that up and there was a statue of him and Kermit the frog, and I didn't have a whole lot of interest. When I was touring colleges and high school I still thought I might want to go on a political science or biology or some bullshit, and I saw the Jim Henson statue and I was like, Huh, seems like a pretty cool place, maybe for that reason alone, and I didn't end up going there for variety of reasons. But moving on. So Jim Henson, while he was in college, had his what we'll call his commercial beginnings and as a very young person he liked produced his own show called Salmon friends on public television, and then that led to him getting like small advertising spots or appearing on like talk shows, like just because puppetry sort of like a forgotten art that sort of like this modern funny Whi tree coming around was and him being such, you know, a renaissance artist with it started people started to pay attention and then his first major success is sesame street, which started in one thousand nine hundred and sixty nine and continues to this day. You know, probably one of the most successful children shows of all time. And a sidebar is that me and my mom we talk part and I talked a lot about movies about make us cry on this show and movie that made me kind of emotional was there was a documentary called street gang, how we got to sesame street, and it's about the life and times of Jim Henson and Frank Oz and beyond, and it's really great and I may have shed a single tear while watching it on a rainy day with my mom in the theater that I worked at in high school. The other thing I'll say it's that if the muppets of of interest to you or just general movie nonsense, like clearly you're twenty minutes and this episode, so you like talking about bullshit like the rest of us. The Museum of moving image in Queens New York, New York has the Jim Henson Exhibit. That is really fucking awesome and it just like a few subway stops to get there, and so if you're in the general vicinity, they do like really cool screenings. I saw a Qa with of the director's cut of midsomer with our aster there and they do like screatings of stand the cubric movies and they do screenings of the muppet movies every so often and it's a really cool place and you should give them your business, I guess. But like you can go there and they have like the original Kermit, the Fraug, the original big bird, all this shit. It's really fucking cool. So you should make a trip. If if you're listening to me fucking babble but the muppets, you clearly are invested to some degree. Continuing, he famously did not want to become the kid puppetry guy, which I understand, and so after sesame street, he wanted the muppets of their own TV show and he did two pilots labeled muppets, sex and violence, literally in the name to say this is the muppets, but like for adults, and pitched it, and you can watch some of the footage online, because this was not picked up and probably because something was a little off about it. It was a little weird. Like I'm an adult and so when I heard that this existed, I was like, oh my gosh, this is everything I've dreamed of and more. But it's just like a weird middle ground of like pg thirteen, humor said from the muppets, and the muppets are like so funny because it's like the jokes that you can make to the parents, like with the kids in the room, without the...

...kids noticing, because it's like also tongue and cheek and dry, and also there's just so much physical, bright humor going on, also for the kids in the audience. So it's for the beautiful balance. But muppets x amounts didn't go anywhere. Another thing that didn't go anywhere is the muppets were probably featured on season one of us now Saturday night live for you, those of you who don't know, and John Belushi has a famous quote about not wanting to act opposite the muppets or that the muppets were taking up their screen time, which I understand because they were like perform you know, their performance in the muppets are fictional people. And also just they didn't appear on any season after that because the muppet format was just conflicting with West and I was trying to do. But they both said they both succeeded in their own right from that point. If don an incredible stuff by guns with a great instead of comedy, by Fuzzy Bear, as in his Cambrey, will make you stand up and go get a revolt. What did I just say? What are you just what the show is? We don't give a hard damn about to show. We work for it. Being you death right and the Ben you have root. They are printed on the back of your ticket. Follow him and we will have a problem. Everybody here paid good money to hear this little dragon and his friends, so please let them do that thing without talking. But the show is bad. You want more. Welcome to leave, but who you are more welcome to La we do are more welcome plate. But then the muppet show started in one thousand nine hundred and seventy six and it ran for five years and at the time it was one of like the most heavily aired and successful TV programs, specifically because it was designed to be a kid show that parents wouldn't mind watching in the background or having their kids obsessively tune in for because they would laugh at some of the jokes. And over its five year course it won four EMMYS. It was nominated twenty one times. Some of the key episodes or the most famous people at the time who hosted were Steve Martin Own John Rita Moreno and Wisaman ally, and if you have Disney plus, you'll know that they recently added the muppet show to their portfolio. And when this happened I was very excited because the muppet show is really hard find on DVD and not available on the Rd anywhere and I would had been mad at Disney for years for withholding it. And they finally put it out and I kind of learned that it's like watching old episodes of s and l where you like don't know, work care about the celebrity host and so you're like every joke is sort of based around me understanding whose person is and why they're famous. Lies the Manellie, I've heard your name before, like I barely know who you are, and so I watched the key episodes of Steve Martin and stuff and it's kind of funny, but it has aged a little bit and if you follow the Republican Party, so Disney when they release the stuff, because the show is made in the S, there was a lot of little things that didn't age well and so over that episodes for that was a case and things were cut. There was like a little notice over the screen saying we depicted Hawaiian people as like, in an unsavory way, and this is what we changed, which as a way of correcting your history. Disney, it was a good idea, and the Republican Party got all up in arms, saying now they're canceling the muppets. But, Dears Republicans, the muppets are not for you. Why don't you introduce yourselves again and let's meet your puppets? Okay, Um uh, hi, I'm Jeff, and Holy I'm Ranger Robbie. You know what, can I change that? I already want to change it. That's fine, we're just feeling things out. How about you? Hi, I'm Bonnie and I'm Nikki and I'm like totally into shopping, like shop so you drop that. It out to that charge at ha ha ha. That's fun, Nicki, and you, my name is Anthony Peter Coleman, formerly Private First Class United States Army, DIS honorable discharge, may nineteen, one thousand nine hundred and eighty three. Okay, and Anthony, what is your puppets name Tony, and can we hear a little bit about Tony? Go ahead, tell them what happened.

There was a rebel village. Five clicks down the road, word came down from top brass, make it disappear. We we didn't know any better. We were we were kids. I watched myself, picked up the flame thrower and I just went off. Okay, well, let's not get too deep into our heart. Let's not get too deep into our back stories just yet. Like, like, maybe start with some fun, silly facts, you know, like I've got a sweet tooth. Okay, what about what about you, ranger? Only mine knows this stickulist. Can I change that? Fine, absolutely. How about you, Nikki? I'm like so into my phone. I'm always like texting, texting, texting, hello. Well, ha ha, nobody was laughing out loud that day in Granada. Many people were saying, Oh mg, I was seeing DDYL. To my innocence. After the success of the first few seasons of the muppet show, muppet movie started coming out, which we will thoroughly cover, trust me. But other than that there's the muppet babies, which became a cartoon or which became a TV show spinoff in the s that people were really into, which premiered in the muppet state, Manhattan. Then there's two Jim Henson movies, dark crystal and Labyrinth. Labyrinth is the one with David Bowie in it, I'm pretty sure, and I've tried to watch both and not what we're here talk about today, but I think they're both a little bit nonsense. But people really seemed like these movies before Jim Henson's death in one thousand nine hundred and ninety, he had the Jim Henson our sort of like the Alfred, Alfred Hitchcock Hour, and I watched a little bit of it and it's like with your favorite muppet characters and probably everyone behind the scenes operating them is all the same. But there's no way to describe this but that it like looks like an amusement park like cut scene for like the simpsons ride or something, just in that it doesn't look like it has the production value to uphold the standard of muppets that I have grown accustomed to. Not to end on a down note, but then Jim Henson died in one thousand nine hundred and ninety at the age of fifty four, I believe, of pneumonia. Very sad premature. Imagine like that was only like twenty or fuck that was thirty years ago, but still like there are eighty year olds like Martin Scorsese and Ridley Scott who were still making movies. So there's an alternate world where Jim Hanson could still be alive making up movies, which would be fucking crazy. Then in the s there was a sort of reboot of the muppet show or an attempt at doing the muppet show again with muppets tonight. I think it ran for two seasons. It wasn't hosted by Kermit like the muppet show was. It was hosted boss new character named Clifford, who I don't like, but it was essentially taking up the structure rather of like running a play sort of thing. Now they're running like a TV interview show like of the S, like very letterman, Jay Leno and some of them. Notable guests were billy crystal. This season opener is with Michelle Feifer, which is like so baller. There's the artist formerly known as Prince Sandra Bullock, John Goodman will be Goldberg or Sinney Hall, Martin Short and Rick Moranis so actually pretty stack line up. I've watched a few of the episodes and they're okay. Something is missing, but having celebrities that you know and care about and who are still relevant today. Is totally helps, because just people who were famous in the s kind of aren't famous now. But Billy Crystal still happy to happy to see him on screen. Okay, so now there are two key TV movies worth our time, and those are it's a very muppet Christmas from two thousand and two and muppets wizard of alls some two thousand and five. And all I can say about these are I've only like half watched a very much of Christmas, but it's been brought up on this show before when parth brought it brought it to my attention that there's an internet conspiracy about this very film in that it takes up the structure of it's a wonderful life, in that Kermit says he wish she'd never been born, and then the ghost of Christmas past and present and future or whatever. Wait, I don't know, that's a Christmas Carol. I'm getting my Christmas movies mixed up. But basically he's Oh yeah, he sees what the world looks like without his involvement and he goes to miss piggy's house and there's like a Matt background through her window and it shows...

...the Twin Towers, and this move is me in two thousand and two and so people on the Internet have had a little bit too much time on their hands. The set of the conspiracy that technically this movie does pause it that in the alternate reality were kermit was never born, the twin towers are still standing and from a butterfly effects heart of way, like maybe. But I've heard the director, Kirk Thatcher, respond to this on twitter and he very simply said we used a matt of the New York City skyline from before and due to production error, no one noticed, which was very understandable. Personally, I'm of the stance that Kermit the frog didn't have anything to do with what happened on September eleven. But we're not implying that the muppet somehow caused nine hundred and eleven, are we? That's exactly what we're implying. Think about it. Birch showed up in a probe and Latin protest in Bangladesh. I'm your month after and eleven. We laughed it offully. Was fucking baby cake. But what if they were telling US something? What if they've always been trying to tell us something. The muppets have had their pilly felt hands in countless national disasters that I will now count. Loo once, dumb elmo and the unit bomber, Big Bird and the King Challenger explosion kids nine hundred and eleven was a muppet paper. We should be a shame. The far solves, but now we have the proof. Call me crazy, though, and muppets was ad of Oz was the first property, the first thing Disney released with them uppets under their name, and it's considered really fucking bound, which is believable. But I will play a clip of Quentin Tarantino, famous director fresh off of kill Bill, and then, just as Dorothy and the wicked witch charge at each other, damn blowout fight scene, the gals with about these huge summarized swords. Hey, parrot, I'm talking come, I'm talking walking on Rolls, talking explosions everywhere, I'm talking ows and flames, Baird, baby bird. They get it. Well, there, sounds a bit violent for a family film. Okay, cool, cool, okay, we pull back on the fight scene. No explosions, no burn, baby burn, all right, you know, less cong food, but instead what we have a you're ready. You're ready. Yeah, morphing, morphy, morphing, crazy morphing. We're talking piggy transforming into Gonzo, mutating into scooter, scooter turning into a big BUSTI vampire vixen who explodes in a sea of Crimson blood, all down in the classic Japanese enemies now, you know, like for the kids. I. Yeah, sounds expensive. Okay, okay, think, think, think, think, think, think, think. Think, I can work with this story, but think, think, I got it. Goes to kick the wicked witch. I already you're ready for this. Here comes here. Yes, yes, and not they. Oh, now that we could afford Quin Tarantino's a longtime fim a fan of the muppets and I watch them interviews and he said that he would make he wanted to me the muppets so bad that he would make an appearance in one of the films, and they wrote a two minute scene that's just Quentin Tarantino like going off, like playing himself and essentially breaking the fourth wall and talking to Kermit the frog about how they should play the next scene in the wizard of Oz adaptation. And it's fucking wild. I'll play it, but that movie doesn't require any further analysis. After the success of shows like, you know, the office and Parks of wreck and the very the structure of a work environment and then personalized interviews and you know, basically the muppets adapted this and much like muppets to night they're running their own one late night show and miss piggies the host, and basically it's a rip off of the office and as someone who loves the office and the Muppets, this is very funny and it was canceled after one season and like I see why, like it's definitely an...

...acquired taste, but it's on Disney plus and I kind of can't recommend enough. It is very easy viewing if you like either of those things. Yo, a little green Dude, how about we filmed a series in that crazy handheld documentary style and half cutaways to one on one interviews? Rights terrific, Floyd. Everybody like that idea. Cut Two interviews. That is just a totally overused device to make easy jokes, you know, talking to the camera about how you really feel and then cutting back and saying something completely different. I just hate that. I love it. Great device. Like it's a little bit stupid, but the comedy is surprisingly highbrow. Like I think a problem that the watching muppets related thing sometimes is that it can be a little you're like fuck, I'm twenty, like I'm a little above this joke. Not above it intellectually, but just this was meant for an eight year old and muppets on ABC is very much meant as an adult or more mature show and, as we'll get into, that is what like. How I like the haunted mansion and Disney world. I like stupid shit, but I like the few glimmering adult things that I can like about something stupid. You know, isn't that life? The closing notes are that Disney plus is also released a muppets baby's reboot which looks fucking terrible, and muppets now, which I just put in quotes, is Garbaggio, and then most recently, just a month ago, was the muppet on a mansion, which I watch and it's very short. There's kind of not that much unpack, but the songs are really not great and like will our nets in it and he plays them lead human role and a big, a big hard balance to find in the muppet movies is involvement of human characters and the humans really need to find like a good place on the back burner and you start to get into trouble when they become too prominent and when they become important to the story. Well, moving on to a fun fact section. This is going to be a little bit of a shit show. I just put about two fun facts for each film and so hopefully it'll make up just one really long fun fact section and we're just going to try to breathe through and this should go in chronological order in up one, one, one, nine hundred and seventy nine. No movie before this had a hand puppet acts with its entire body appearing on screen, and the major complishment was seeing kermit's kermit with legs. Up to that point you'd only seen hand puppets seen from the waist up the this is also the first movie that they had made kermit ride a bike and it's absolutely incredible and you can watch the footage online. And how to get a puppet ride a bike? It's very difficult, but we'll talk about that for a great muppet Caper, because they want up to themselves. So in the spirit of practical effects and the final sequence where animal I actually eats Dr Bunson and Mr Honey doos Instagra hills. He grows massively in size and Jim Henson insisted that they actually construct the gigantic sixty foot animal head, and that's awesome. So, like I mentioned, in the Great Muppet Caper, the bike riding sequence was accomplished because if you see the movie, they have like all the whole cast, like twenty puppets are so all riding separate bikes at wants and it's like really incredible. And they did this through a combination of radio controlled bikes, Marionnett rigging and in some cases attaching several bikes together with rod so they could stand up upright on their own. Director Jim Henson did not like the working title for this movie, Muppet Mania, and had various friends, staff members and relatives just titles for the movie. Some of the more interesting titles included the rocky muppet picture show and a roggy day in London. The wing titles adjusted by nineteenyear old Lisa Henson, I guess that Jim Henson's daughter, who came up with the great muppet Copaide, but also included several alternative choices of words, including escapade as pigcade, as in Miss Piggy and Caper, and it went. Ended up being the great muppet caper. Miss piggies. Underwater musical numbers in the film where the most difficult seem to shoot, mostly because of communication problems. Lighting, cameraman, cameras, speakers and Monders were all underwater. Eighteen professional swimmers had to dive into the pool at the exact same moment to execute the scene. It is fucking awesome. Moving on, the portrait of Kerma the frog in his producers disguise has become a permanent fixture at...

...the real SARTI's in New York City and it can be seen in other movies set there. This is from the muppets take Manhattan, when Kermit goes to a restaurant dressed up as a producer and they put his picture on the wall. And still there. The muppets take Manhattan is the first month moving which the fourth wall is never broken. Is that the muppets are really good at that. There's a scene in the in muppets make take Manhattan which I like. Specifically do not like in a movie that I really love and it's the scene between Joan rivers and miss piggy like applying makeup onto each other and it's kind of not funny. But I like the fact that after several less satisfying takes the scene, Frank Oz and John Rivers both ordered to Jan Tonics and then they chatted and and they got tipsy and then they used the next take in the movie, because sometimes you just need to get a little Lucy Goosey if you're going to have argument with a puppet pipe. In an interview, Kermit the frog stated that the most important piece of acting advice ever given him was by Sir Michael Caine on the set of this movie, and his advice was to never blink. So now we're onto the the muppets Christmas Carol, and I will pause here to say that, someone who owns the muppets from space on DVD, there is a you know, I'm a part and I are with film therets. We both like directors commentaries and the like, and there's a director's commentary track with Tim Hall, the Director, along with Peppe, the King Krawn and Rizzle the rat and Kermit the frog briefly, and I've watched this and it's so fucking funny. And today learned that the muppet Christmas Carol and Mupp a treasure island have similar features of real commentary, Inter like intercut with like Gonzo making funny comments about what's happening on screen. And just let you know that if you have any of those films on DVD to go check the special features options, because you could be sitting on a treasure chest of knowledge. Well, now we're onto the muppet Christmas Carol. The song when love is gone was dropped from the theatrical release over objections of producer and director Brian Henson, at the request of Disney Chairperson Jeffrey Catzenberg, who considered it too sad for young children. And the last minute decision resulted in drawing edit in the scene from which it was removed and caused some confusion about scrooge, Gonzo and Brizzo's reactions. And I watched this movie for the first time yesterday and I noticed, Huh, but a weird little cut and for a movie that's already surprisingly dark for a kids movie. I say this because both the ghost of Christmas past, who looks like a floating child, and the ghosts of Christmas future who's just like a straight up demon. Are both very scary and I remember kids from when I was younger being like having nightmares about those and for some and for that reason I always avoided this movie. Move forward, hormal foods corporations, maker of Spam, sued the Production Company for making the name of a warthog character and muppet treasure island spam, and their suit was defeated on September twenty two, one thousand nine hundred and ninety five, when the judge noted one might think Hormel would welcome the association with a genuine sense of pork, which is funny good stuff legal system. After Jim Henson's death, Rolf the dog was not recast for several years as he was considered the character closest to Henson's actual personality, even more so than Kermit, and for several movies after his death they sort of retired Ralph and he could appear in the movies but he didn't have speaking lines or even up through the next decade or so, Ralph would just have like one speaking line in the background of scene as to not infringe on Jim Henson's sacred ground well, if you've seen muppet treasure island, it's pretty solid film, but the thing I hate most about it is the main human character, boy, played by Kevin Bishop. He sings a bunch of songs, and I didn't know this until doing the research, but apparently he was going through puberty, as teenagers do, and his voice was changing and so they had to overdub all of his singing performances with older recordings and it looks really bad and it sounds pretty bad. I look around here and I want to crow me. I've been like the way May by, which is unfortunate. That's okay, everyone has puberty eventually. While promoting the muppets reboot in two thousand and eleven, Kermit the frog said an interview, with all due respect, with all due respect...

...them uppets for space. You don't want that to be the last movie you ever do. You want to do a better one, which we'll get to, but I just love quoting kermit the frog like he's a real person. And interviews muppets from space marks the first major role for peppe, the King Prawn, who was an invention from muppets tonight era and muppets from spaces the last movie to have Frank Oz's involvement. Another reason why I love this movie is because it's the first muppet film not to be a traditional music film with original music, and instead the soundtrack is primarily classical soul and funk tracks were and boy is it funky. Now on to jumping forward thirteen years. Now we're in two thousand and eleven and it's muppets reboot and it's the fur. This is the first muppets movie to win and Oscar as. It won for best original song for man or Muppet, which is a pretty, pretty, pretty catchy tune, and a role in that movie. Of Text Richmond was written for Alan Rickman and that would have been awesome. Producers, Jason Segel was given a feedback card. Jason Segul also stars in the movie alongside Amy Adams, who are both America sweethearts. Jason Segel, if you haven't seen the film, forgetting Sarah Marshall. He does a vampire puppet movie in that he clearly cares about puppets a lot and he does a great job in this movie. But he was given a comment card from a children's audience talking about what they didn't like in the test reading and the producers gave it to him to quill, keep him humble and it said. The child wrote that they what they didn't like about the film was specifically Gary's face, which sorry to the seagull family. Shortly before the DVD release of mupsize eleven, Courtney love, the widow of Kirk coband, gave an interview in which he accused the muppets of raping cobain's legacy by covering nirvana song smells like Teen Spirit as a barbershop quartet and at the filmmakers never received her permission. This is funny because surviving Nirvana members, curse novel novel select and Dave Grohl, both made an appearance in the film, playing having cameos and animals band and they both quote love. The rendition of the Song Knowledge and appearance by Elmo, the small red monster from Sesame Street was planned for this film, but due to actual legal trouble since the Disney acquisition, this was not made possible, even though sesame street characters had appeared perfectly legally in like five or six muppet movies up to that point. But that was not only possible. Okay, a few more things here. Don't worry, we're closing out. Danny Treho, famous Hollywood tough guy, appears in muppets most wanted, and the first result on imdb Trivia was that his mother passed away while he was filming his last scenes in the movie and he had to fly back and forth to see his mom. Everyone was offering their condolences and Traho wasn't cracking at all. He was being his normal tough guy and Steve Whitmier, the Kermit, the kerment operator at that time, offered his condolences in character, and Dantreho began breaking. He broke down and cried, which it's perfect understandable. Kermit the frog, talk to me directly, I might I might crumble, and I'll briefly bring...

...up Steve Whitmire, because he was I did a surprising amount of research on him today, and he was the voice of kermit up until like through two thousand and fifteen, and then from that point he's been replaced by this other guy, Matt Vogel, and Steve Went Myers fired from Disney amid controversy and apparently he's kind of an Asshole, which is unfortunate because it resulted in them retiring Rizzo the rat, which was like his one of his main characters, and that's sad because Rizzo is hilarious. And also Steve Wentmier, even if he was a Douche, his kermit voice was great. And this new guy, Matt vogels. I don't want to spend too much time on it, but like if you watch muppets on and mansion, it's like it's really bad, like it doesn't even sound like all, like you know anyone and they're everyone's dad can do a bad kermit the frog impression and this sounds like a below average kermit the frog impression kit. What a great past do. I thanks you. Don't think he thought it would be funny say it's a most amazing girl in the universe? Yes, it's not good and really it's hard to take them up at seriously if comment the frog's voice is just the tiniest bit off. Last Fun fact is that in the opening song of Muppets, most wanted the most recent film, Walter suggest calling the movie muppets again, and that was the working title through all of the filming and then it was at the last I can change the muppets most wanted, and that sucks because I think the muppets again as a much funnier title. As usual for this show, we have some one star reviews and as usual I have prepared too many because parth isn't here to tell me a limit them to three. So let me let me read some one star by Kathy g not a good movie for little ones. I wish there was an option with Amazon to watch fifteen minutes then the client a movie rental. This film may be great, but I rented it for my grandson at age three. He was bored with it almost immediately. The humor seems geared towards adults and, except for kerment appearing in the first part of the story, very little focus on muppets and much more sophisticated storyline than expected. Oh well, last time. I'm going to rent on here a few things. I can't say any muppet movie you can use the complaint of very little focus on muppets because it's in the name so much show that. I was talking about the muppets in a group of people the other day who didn't know about the muppets and I was like, it's funny because anyone can act like they know about the muppets, because every muppet movie is just like either called the muppets or the muppet movie or at some iteration of the muppets. So you can really act pretty knowledgeable on the subject just by throwing the word muppet around. Also, if you throw if you show a movie to a three year old and like they're not into it, I don't know like how much with three yearls really paying attention. Like part told the story last week him watching Lord of the Rings Age Three, and so parth is able to stand like that threehour movie in theaters without crying. And your three year old can you watch this like family friendly film? Sounds like you have a nerd for a baby. Tough on. The next review by REX and says I would give this no stars if I could, but I can't, so I'm going to give it one star. And says no stars. The movie had a lot of inappropriate sexual innuendo if this was supposed to be a family movie. Very disturbing violent image with miss piggy that would frighten smaller children. Very disappointing installment. Yeah, all the muther moves are specifically and strategically G rated. So interp of that as you will. This is a review for muppets from space and it's a very painful and it says I just finished watching this with my son. I think the person and who wrote this, the person who directed in all the people who produce it should be severely punished and never be allowed to make another movie. Too much and too dark, escaping the government agency, way, way too many disco songs, especially the finale. I wish we could all get all the time energy back that was used to create this movie and then dedicate it to something worth while. And the slauce one. It's labeled one star DVD was scratched.

Great. So after we cover all of that stuff on the show, usually we get into what we call the meat and potatoes section, which is usually what's working and what's not working about a given film. But here, similar to our David fincher ranking, we bullshit for an hour and then we throw in the ranking in the last ten to fifteen minutes. Maybe, now that we've come this far, I will quickly share what is considered the understood ranking, just for fun, and this is if you look up rank the muppet movies this is sort of the commonly held belief. Number eight is muppets most wanted. Number seven, and this is going to decreasing order from worst to best or seven muppets from space. Number six, the muppets, the two thousand and eleven one, Jason Segel. Number five, muppets Jowserre island. Number four, the great muppet Caper. Number three, the muppets take Manhattan. Number two, the muppets Christmas Carol and number one the muppet movie. So I think part of that is like if you look at any movie ranking, if you look up a rank the star wars movies, both because it's partly true and both because people think that the first led Zeppelin album is the best one, because it's the most pure because it came out first, and same thing with movie. Sort of looking at ranking less of the muppet movies can be sort of boring because it's almost always chronological, with just like a few pieces moved around, saying that they just gradually get worse over time, which is like almost the case. But I think that the muppets are like a really elusive concept that like is so selfaware and Meta that like the muppets have adapted to the times in really interesting ways and they're approach to laughing at themselves and making movies about movies and like being under the guys of being a kids film, but like making sure their stuff for everyone in there. There are many movies like that anymore. Like I like watching Pixar soul as much as the next guy because it's a little bit of a Heavier Pixar movie, but I kind of don't at all want to go watch like the good dinosaur or whatever other bullshit, the release thing like, I'm sure, cocoa, whatever the fuck, but it's really hard for me to get out of bed for your kids movie these days, and the muppets are an exception. I think they are timeless, kind of like in a tonal balance of like Charlie Brown, where you're like this is for kids question mark. I recently got, if you haven't heard everything, got a tattoo from Charlie Brown. So I feel the need to constantly justify that decision by working it into my life and the show. Oh come on, Charlie Brown, no, I'll hold it's steady. No, please. You just want me to come running up to kick that ball so you can pull it away and see me when a flat on my back and kill myself. This time, you can trust me. See, here's a sign document testifying that I promise not to pull it away. It is sign. It's a sign document. I guess if you have a signed document in your position, you can't go wrong. This year I'm really going to kick that football peculiar thing about this document. It wasn't never not a rise. I say, let's start this little list now that we are on around the our market. The program number eight is consistent with the general populace and it is muppets most wanted. Since we've already spent a lot of time on the general topic of Muppets, I won't get to in depth here, but I think the muppets most wanted was pretty half baked. I wrote then that it killed their modern momentum in that muppets was eleven, like really brought them back, like critically and commercially, and like people cared about the muppets again, which like seems pretty impossible, and I really think that Disney could have gone in a direction of caring about their trademark a lot more if they continued to succeed and the muppets most wanted really kind of crash and burned, at least, receiving mixed reviews and not doing great at the...

...box office, and so it kind of put a huge halt on all muppet properties for the last six or seven years. So I'm not resentful, if you can't tell by the sound of my voice. Despite that, it's actually a pretty good movie. I don't hate any of the movies that we're about to talk about. Oddly enough, like they're all they'll have their own redeeming qualities, and so it's sort of apples and oranges at a certain point. To put these next to each other. You Lose Amy Adams and Jason Segel from the prior movie, who are both great, and you gain Ricky Gervase, Tina Fey and the dad from modern family. I was too lazy to look up his name. We Gervase, I find kind of annoying. Tina Fey is great. I read a quote from the director and they're like, we tried to use as little green screen as possible, but like still, we did it for practical reasons and up to this point, like, I'm pretty sure, like really not at all did muppet movies use computer effects, because that's like the joy of it, is the tactical nature. And then I saw some behind the scenes footage for muppets haunted mansion and it's like all in green screen and like it shows and just and they're just focusing a lot less on puppets more and more to some like CG, and it's like what, how did you think that this was a good idea? Like your whole business model is you avoiding that and you making practical effects? Number seven, I watch it for the first time yesterday and it's muppet Christmas Carol and I don't mean to Piss so many people off so early in the list, but a lot of people really like this movie them at my family Christmas party every year we go over to our cousin's house and I love the muppets and they always have them up at Christmas Carol on and as a kid at like scared the crap out of me. I just think it's like to serious. Like Michael Caine has a quote about how we he played it literally like he was in a drama, like sand's Muppets, and I like Michael Caine. Master Wayne, you know, he's Alfred Pennyworth it just like not muppety enough, and it gets them too the territory of just like there's too much human involvement, too m human action, that I'll go the fuck about, and sort of like the muppet characters as themselves are put in the back seat. And when you are adapting something like the muppets were doing in the s, the Christmas Carol and Treasure Island, you're kind of like burdened with story that you have to tell, even though the muppets have like prided themselves on not like having like a relative arc but like the details of it not being important, and now it's like you have a real old man as your main character and you have to like have like several serious scenes about like life and loss, which maybe it's just why less appealing for me like watch on a moment's notice. And I wrote that it's one of those movies that you've only really are interested in around Christmas, which which says something, just because movies when it's snowing in it you're like, AH, it's cold out. So this is totally correct. Number six in the list is muppet treasure island, one of the few DVDs I add as child's muppet treasure island, along with Scooby Doo, two monsters and leashed. I watch both these movies hundred plus times, probably why I care about the muppets now, subconsciously at least. Tim Curry's fucking great, but by and large there's too many humans. I mentioned the teenager who's going through puberty and sings a bunch of songs and it's kind of grating. This is a rizzle heavy movie, which you know I'm always down for. I wrote that it's still pretty pure and to watch muppets to pirate antics like in the last thirty minutes is pretty great. But the muppet movies like I know that from their origins it's been a it's been about that. They do songs and they do skits, and I just feel like the skits, or I guess the the quote drama or the narrative, is so much stronger, more entertaining, more rewatchable than the songs because like sixty percent of the songs and muppet movies I'm like actively, like a little annoyed by. And so we are now into the final five and a number five. There is the muppet movie, which is the first, and people will make consider...

...this an abomination because people think that what comes out first is best and from a Henson purity, black tar heroin sort of perspective. Like, yes, like, I feel like this is like the driest of all the muppet movies. Dry Humor wise good. I'm so nervous. If I'm not too funny, I won't be able to live with myself. Well then you'll have to get another apartment, won't you? You know, I hear this movie is dynamite her pressure, get popcorn, only about honey back some oh sure, Mama, nothing's too good for my woman, whom like the movie. Fine, so far. It hasn't started yet. That's what I like about and it's intentionally basic because it's just about the muppets getting together. And Yeah, and I wrote this kind of is a varying problem, but I wrote the slumber the mupp movies are largely they don't revolve around Celebrity Cameos, but they all have make a point to do that. And I wrote that the celebrity cameos in the muppet movie is are weird because you don't know what's the celebrity cameo and what is just like a side character with one line of dialog, because the people who were famous then aren't really famous anymore. Then we have the muppets. Two Thousand and eleven. Saw this movie when I was ten years old with my mom my sister in the theater and I very much remember leaving the theater loving it, my mom saying the phenomena song, it's very catchy. When I'm dude, dude, dude, dude a minute when I read in the research that that song was adapted from Italian porn music. Very classy. Now in the big three, a number three, we have muppets for space, and the easy way to talk about this is to say that's like the most stoned out of its mind muppets movie made one thousand nine hundred and Ninetynine, like the greatest year in modern film history. But was also helping is that there were no original songs and like that's why most people put it on the bottom of their list, just because they're like this is against everything that the muppet stand for. But it just like ninety minutes of muppets dialog and like riffing and it just like moves right by like it's the best and easiest background movie, pretty much like ever. I don't know my sister. There's a scene of this movie. We're gone, so get struck by lightning and then goes into space and like talks with cosmic fish and they tell him about his alien brethren who are coming to get him, and me and my sister spent a lot of time talking about the cosmic fish. Are you sure you're okay? Yeah, absolutely, but I have to respond. Gotta make contact. Where's it going with those keys who kiss? Frank Session? Maybe those douices? The prun cracker wins. I swear I had for races, I really did. I hate for you get to know when to Hudy. No, no, no, no, we do so now numero dose is the muppets take Manhattan. I spent a bunch of time deliberating between the final two, and this is the conclusion I came to this movie. I'm biased because, as any move that takes place in New York automatically I'm a little charmed by and there's also the much long awaited muppet wedding. There's a whole sub plot about kermit juggling women, both a heart human character and and Miss Piggy at the same time and it's awesome. And then there are two songs, specifically the opening song and the closing song together again, and somebody's getting married, which are like really, really great. And also this movie in particular, like all love movies, are about show business, but this one is about getting like getting rejected by producers, you know, succeed. Most of the movies are about them putting on a show in some capacity, but this one is like the best example of movies about making movies, you...

...know. And then that by process elimination, that leaves the Great Muppet Caper at number one. And when I lived in Utah, I must have watched this movie fifty times or so. I would just get into a place where I would come home from work every day and I would just want to watch like the same movie as the night before and I would just watch same movie for a week or two in a row, and the great muppet Caper was one of those movies. It's it's so it's so dry and pithy, and I the humor like makes you feel so smart because of like how Domin it is, or maybe makes you feel dumb because of how smart it is. But the sequence with miss piggy swimming in the water is like nothing short of a technical achievement. All the songs are really catchy and I think the best part about the humans in the Great Muppet Caper and the Muppets Sig Manhattan in particular, that the humans are like one hundred percent like they're playing it straight, like they're interacting with like real people and like that. There isn't like a frog in their restaurant or whatever, compared to like in a withs, different from Michael Caine, where he's playing it straight, but like in like an like he's playing everyoneeszer screwed, show no fault of his own, but we're him being the main character becomes a fault because you were following someone who was not fun, when the whole premise of the muppets is about following kromat the frog and Fassey bear gone so who are consistently very fun. Let me briefly shout out muppets from space for including a cameo from none other than Y Leoda, an actor from morence criss's good fellows, who also makes an appearance in muppets. Must want it and it's very funny to see all of like the very serious actors who find themselves making cameos the muppet movies, and this is something of a famous thing. The reason you can have Michelle Peifer be guest on the episode of muppets tonight is because the puppeteers went through great lengths to make the experience as enjoyable as possible for somebody, for the celebrities, and they made them and they let them choose whether they wanted to show would be singing bass or more comedy based, and really let them play a role in the creative process. And so one famous person they would recommend it to their friend. And basically because they were playing with toys and their connections and their budget were perhaps in the lower end, they pride themselves on treating the guests really well and that's how they got such esteemed people over the years and why people like ry Leoda are still down to play a security guard in muppets from space. When you're something of a quote, serious cinemagoer and you see Ray Leota playing a version of like Henry Hill, like in a muppets movie like this is the best. Well, that it's like kind of pretty much that fun fact. If I'm able to edit this in the next two hours. Yeah, this will be the first episode that is recorded on the same day that it is released. That's probably a something to do with the fact that part is the responsible backbone with this program and I am trying to be loyal to the fact that we release things on Sundays, because we have a pretty good, quote, religious schedule about it, because it's Sunday and be like to have the expression that it's like going to church, like listening to our show. So maybe I should stop talking so I could get into the editing process so I can add in a bunch of clips like kermit the frog talking and stuff, and then I can post it on your favorites streaming platform like spotify, apple music or wherever those you may get your podcast. But if you're listening on something other than those two things, like I don't really know what you're all about, but I already teas where I didn't tease that, I told you with like like extreme detail what the next episodes are going to be. So I don't have a whole lot to say right now, except for part. If you're listening, hello, you are the other host of this show. If you listen to me Babbel this time. CONGRATS. You're a good friend for that. Other than that, you know, falls on Instagram, fallsome twitter. If you're listening on Apple PODCAST, scroll down. It gives little five star review. That'd be very nice. That is all for now. Goodbye. Enjoy The outrom music.

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