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Episode 117 · 1 week ago

MAGNOLIA (1999) Discussion

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Parth and Trent talk about this long movie, for a long time. 

A girl in me of the Turn of Kids say me, come on, leave me. I feel sive me. There's so many stories that you did to the six stories. It have to be the same. Do you want them to all feel the same all the way through? So it's one story, so you're not watching like piece piece piece, it's it all has to be one connection. It's one. You're watching one story, and you feel like if one piece was missing. Do you know what I mean? I was trying to figure out how many stories there really were, and I guess it's nine main characters. Nine I've heard you. That was fucking de Luca who said six stories. I was like, I'm trying to make one story, you know, so I'm gonna settle last for rewrite anything. It was a it's good, you know why final cut. It's a scary thing to give it to a guy like me. Hello Trent, Hello, part it's good to see you look at us. Um wow, this is crazy. We could do this all day. But all of those were natural, I felt, I felt, I yeah, I wasn't trying to guess what you were going to do, but I do want to know. But I don't want to know what you were eating. Oh guess is a strong word giving you just saw me eat it. But I feel like the bigger question would be what I eat off screen before I ate that TUTSI roll lollipop that I gave um very positive, very good reviews. I hadn't had a lollipop in a while, and it was on my desk, and then I seemed to have a realization on cam about how awesome lollipops were and how cool it is that they put bubblegum in the middle. What about what about you? I want to know what I had before that? Uh, quickly tell me what you had? Well, sort of three course meal, and before that I had a bowl of hunting that cheerios with some milk. And then before that, I went to the Study Abroad Fair at the College of Student Center like two days ago, and the best thing about it was they had a really delicious buffet of Mediterranean food. And so I went there and I got it, like a bunch of grape leaves and and you know, chicken kebab and tasty rice and all that stuff, and I brought it home. I made a long cold walk home, like holding it like this, just in like a flimsy paper plate and the liquid was like seeping through. But I got at home, put in the fridge and then I just ate it and it was fucking awesome. And it makes me think, this is the one reason we should go to school involved sponsored function. It is more like a lot of free food. Do you do you remember? I mean this is not school sponsored free food. But do you remember seafood night at Brower King Neptune Night? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's what I didn't go, but a friend off the show, my freshman year roommate, Luke Ziegler, famously went and he said he made a killing And did you know to go to King Neptune Night when you didn't have a meal plan? And then for the meal plane it costed two swipes because like lobsters were at play. But it costs seventy five dollars to a non meal That is crazy. I mean it was all you can eat lobster, which is I feel like a rare opportunity for like the middle class. That's true. Well, I guess the crazier thing is that one meal swipe is equivalent to like seventeen dollars or something like that, um, which that food is not worth seventeen dollars is all I'll say. No, But but do you want to know what I had or do you not care at all? I do care. Um. So back to what we were saying, part what what did you have? Whoa? You asked me? Um, Well, I had sort of mentioned this a little bit before we started recording. I said that I wanted to talk to you about something, but I couldn't because it would sound good to talk about it on air. Um. So so so natural, so genuine. Yes. So there was a little bit of time before we started recording, and in that time I was talking to my roommate and friend off the show, or friend of the show, Chloe ditlof Um and her boyfriend friend off the show, uh, Julian Malendi, and Um, they are having somewhat of a date night right next doors. Um. I can kind of hear them right now. But UM, that's that's comforting. Yeah. I hope there. I hope their date nights going well. So do I. Um. But they made many chicken tacos that they've gotten from Trader Joe's and they were like, if you want one or two, you can have one. So I had one of those, and then the crazier thing is that Julian Malendi...

...had gotten some chardonnay, And are you Lucy Goosey on the show, Trent Trent. We'll get there, we'll get that. Should I go, Should I go crack a brew? Really? Relax? Um, maybe if you want, um, you know, I just if if it's a matter of chance, it's all if it's all part of the plan. If the beer happens to fall out of the fridge and into my hands, and I mean, there's nothing you can diverse that you know that's not your fault. But anyways, Uh, point being, I haven't drank in a really really long well not really really long, like since Halloween. But even in Halloween, I didn't go crazy or anything, and um, they offered me chardonnay, and I was like, nah, I think I'm fine. And because I've been really stressed about shooting my senior thesis this weekend, I was just gonna say, now would be a good time to with the self medicate with alcohol, given that the most important project of your whole life up to this point, Well that's comforting. But um, I was like, wait, I'm not going to drink on Friday night because I have to shoot on Saturday, and I'm not going to drink on Saturday because I have to shoot on Sunday, and likely I'm not trying to drink the weekend after that or the weekend after that. Um why well weekend Thanksgiving? Yeah, Thanksgiving, and like, I don't love drinking around my family. It's so awkward and weird. And the weekend after that, I'm filming again. So I was like, you know what, this is, really stressed OUTN go for it. So I have. I'm so happy I had half a glass of Chardonnay and having. The older I get, the more I learned that drinking alcohol with a meal is like so rewarding and so so much better than drinking on an empty stomach, I feel like it's so easy to do. Part this is. This has inspired me And now I see the like the color in your eye return and I kind of want a Miller High Life out of the fridge. Trent, I'm gonna I'm gonna buy you sometimes, I'll do it. I'm gonna buy you some time. Let's cue the intro. Okay, mown down down, don walk? What do you listen to a house and go? Dude, beg and need a touch and girl, do the danger sound? I take a what dude, the dangers? Oh, how do the dangerous? I take right? Do that dangerous? All take my breath? Ohway, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, Oh, don't, don't be watching every motion. And my foolish love is gay? Don't know, don't don't this notion? Honey, love is no notion. Don't don't? Are you not? Just dant? I haven't even seen Gladiator? But have you really? But that's a good welcome back to craft Services where we talk about the movies. Each week we talk about a film if we have a remember out that failed to talk with this about their experience working on the picture. But this week we last week, I was gonna say, last week we had sound mixer John Pritchett, yes to talk about that, to talk with us about his experience working on Magnolia the p T, a film divided in into two parts like thirty thirty men's each That's what I was gonna I was gonna say. This episode is not part of that two part show. This is the discussion of Magnolia, So definitely go check out those episodes if you haven't already, but but if you just want to hear us talk like sigarette right place to be, you know, yeah, parts, should our goal be for this podcast to exceed or equal the runtime of this film? Wow, that is a tall or you know what we should do. We should have like maybe like we should get like six or seven other podcast hosts and just do like podcast vig yets. Yes, and we...

...should have like a piece of music that just plays over the whole thing save me wise. I don't remember how the song goes, but I know it's wise up. Um yeah, wow, Trent, I've readjusted my body and I was like, whoa, I'm a little tipsy. This is this is tipsy pod. I suppose should we put it in parentheses? Or I mean, I guess we'll see where you are by the end of this episode, because you I guess this hasn't happened for the listeners. But Trent told me that he brought a vodka kran to drink. Yeah, I couldn't find a beer, um, and I there wasn't any time to go to the store, so I had to improvise. But um, I thought I was going to feel like a big strong man but now I feel like a cool cool cat, cool like a cool like a cool cool cool lady cat, interesting female cat. Trent, is it your turner, my turn to do a five word synopsis of this film or ten words synopsis? Sorry? Well, it's hard to do justice to this movie in uh in ten words. You know. I saw the three hour and eight minute runtime, and so I was expecting that, and then it ran credits at three hours in one minute, and I really thought, I really thought, Wow, they really just tried to get over the three minutes, the three hour hump, just to say they did, and uh, and you gotta respect it. But I'm sure we'll talk more later on about the drawbacks of a three hour film. No, I have nothing but positive things to say, but maybe I should give the ten words synopsis. I don't think I did last time. What was the last movie recovered? Bodies Bodies Bodies? Good question? Into into the folder? Um, I think it was Bodies Bodies Bodies, because we went straight form was it was? It was? It was? Wow? Who is fucking stacked? Who did it? For Bodies Bodies Bodies? Only time will tell you want to rock papers? There's sure, alright, just one that should be. Yeah, that's fine, rock rock papers. We have to get in the same Wait, let's just let's just let's just flip a coin. Let's just flip a what why how about we both text in the chat on three with our rock paper scissors. Yeah, the chat or in our in our in our chat and okay, okay, when I say shoot, I'll go rock paper scissor shoot when I say shooting rock paper scissors, shoot, oh go fuck yourself. Trends Do you feel sad? Do you feel small? Do you feel like you need a wattle beetle hill? Just for the record, at seven thirty eight, part typed scissors and just moments after her, I typed paper um Ben part's name in the chatt's part of Murate and Mine is Chris Evans because I'd beat Chris Evans. I was told that with headphones on, I look like Chris Evans at the Venice Film Festival. But it wouldn't let me do Wait, not Chris Evans, Chris Chris Pine. Chris Evans is Captain America. Well know this, it's fun, it's fun, but I can't believe I've referenced it several times so far, and you didn't and you didn't correct. You just wanted to me to embrace myself. I'm feeling so fucked up. I even know this happening. My mom's calling me right now, but I had two steps of the vodka cran, so I can't handle that right now. Yeah, you wouldn't want to tell her you were drinking alcohol or anything, you know. Um no, she she, It would just be a whole thing. Um. But I'm more curious about um the ten word synopsis. Wait, oh yeah, we didn't determine if the winner loser is the one who does it as the winner did it. But okay, that means that being forced to do this is considered a good thing. Do you want to do it or do you want to hand off the responsibility to me um as like a punishment. I want to do it because I want to summarize war of the World's because we're gonna altern I see. So that means I can summarize collateral two weeks or three weeks. Thank you. That's very nice of you. Okay U. With all that being said, let's hear it. Lots of people really sad in the San Fernando Valley. Lots of people very sad in the San Fernando Valley Part ten words exactly clap, clap, congratulations. But the real synopsis circa the Internet says an epic mosaic of interrelated characters in search of love,...

...forgiveness, and meaning in the San Fernando Valley, So you did have that much? You had that? I had three of those words of the yeah. And do do you care how much money the movie costed? No, I don't know. I don't really care. I'm getting I want to know. Go ahead, you had you had me for a second. So the budgets thirty seven million and the box office is forty eight point five million. A fucking hit. And I know that PTA was given uh basically um like final final cut on this and was told he could do whatever he wanted. And it makes me wonder what the budget for Book NTS was. I'm wondering how much of a step up it was financially. Yeah, but you start talking, I'm wondering how this movie got made. You know, the Book Knets budget is fifteen million dollars, so a little over twice the budget, and Heart Aid Slash Sydney was three million. And then his most recent movie liquor pizza was only forty million, which is only three more million the Magnolia. But with inflation these days, who knows? Has anyone called you a mathematician? You did those calculations so quickly, and it wasn't I didn't calculate and it was all listed out in front of me. A much smarter person did them. But tell me about as I worked through the burp. Tell me about the production history. So PTA started to get ideas for Magnolia during the long editing period of Boogie Nights. After I don't I don't feel comfortable with the acronym. Can you say his full name? Paul Paul Thomas Anderson started to get ideas for Magnolia during the long editing period of Boogie Nights. According to the credits, it's P. T. Anderson, which is weird. After the critical and financial success of Boogie Nights, New Line Cinema told Anderson he could do whatever he wanted, and Paul Thomas Anderson said, I was in a position that I will never be in again. Michael de Luca, head of production at New Line, gave Anderson final cut without even hearing an idea for the film, and initially Anderson wanted to make a movie that was intimate and small scale and something he could shoot in thirty days. He had the title of Magnolia in his head before he even wrote the script. As he started writing, the script kept blossoming and he realized there were many actors he wanted to write for, and then decided to put quote an epic spin on topics that don't necessarily get the epic treatment. He also said that he wanted to quote make the epic all time great San Fernando Valley movie. Anderson started with lists of images, words, and ideas that start quote resolving themselves into sequel sequences and shots of dot and dialogue. Before Anderson became a filmmaker, one of the jobs he had was an assistant for television game show Quiz Kid Challenge, which is obviously incorporated into the script. Paul Thomas Anderson used friend Amy Man's first two solo albums and demo tracks for upcoming third album, Bachelor Number Two or Last Remains of the Dodo as a basis and inspiration for the film, and several of her songs can be heard in the film. The character of Jim Curring originated in when actor John c Riley grew a mustache out of interest and started putting together an unintelligent cop character. Well, I should put together I should grow a mustache out of interest and then put together an unintelligent cop character. You're gonna put yourself on the line for this guy, Jim. Sorry, that just happened. Sometimes Paul fucking up just must be a favorite. What's going on in? I asked them to compete. This is a crime scene. It's Mitchell, for Christ's sakes. I got the press down stairs. You know, I cut you a lot of slack gym because we got history. But this is way over the line. M Wait, he's involved in this? He's not involved? How do you know? He's a god damn for Gilanni? He could be a suspect. What are you doing to me? We used to be partners. I'm just trying to find the connection. Pat excuse me the riddle. What does a liar do when he's dead? He lies still? Oh Jesus, this must be a favorite night of the year about happy fucking hanaween you what this guy in? You're gonna put your reputation on life for this guy, Jimp. I missed when the Batman came out. Remember opening night of Batman. I haven't felt that level of excitement. I haven't felt a I haven't felt that...

...level of the excitement course through my body in a long time. I don't know if we talked about this when we discussed The Batman, but um uh, this is going to sound like I'm trying to trash talk to you, but I'm not. Just listen, just wait up, um Trent Trent. Trent showed up a little bit late to pick me up to go watch the film with me and Jackson Clark, And as a result of that, we couldn't get snacks before the film, and I hadn't had dinner and it was the seven pm showing and I had worked all day and so I was like really like tired and annoyed and hungry, and I was so like, this movie better be fucking good because if I'm not, if it's not good, I'm gonna be so pissed. And then um, the movie happened and we were laughing like best buds at the end, and I remember thinking in that moment, a good movie is the best way to calm me down, or to to mend a friendship, to to distract you from the fact that you're really hungry and irritable and tire. Yeah, I I remember that us skipping through the parking lot after The Batman Thick as Thieves again after I I believe, was that. Did it make us so late that we walked in? Basically yes, when Batman? The Batman title card happened, but the was playing, and so I thought like, oh, because it was a special screening that was happening um to two days before the film actually premiered at AMC and that music was playing, and all I saw was the title card and we showed up at seven, and so I was like, Oh, like, are they not showing ads before this? And they're just doing like a little like they're showing the screen and like playing some music beforehand as like a prelude or whatever. And I was like, Oh, No, that's the movie. I just remembered that specifically happening. Anyways, back to you could talk about The Batman all day, but if you're curious for more, listened to our episode or we already did, editor William Hoy and our discussion with friend of the show Jackson Clark. And much like the movie experience, I feel like in our discussion of The Batman. We started out annoyed with each other and then by the end we yes, we had buried the hatchets worse than us. Every time Jackson Clark has come onto the show, you and I have not been happy with each other at the beginning of the episode. We usually it works itself out. Yeah, but having Jackson be like our our shared wife, I feel like definitely complicates the all the all the chemicals in the air. That is true, all right. You want to talk about a three hour long movie though, oh a different three hour long movie. Wait, how long? The Batman doesn't break the three hour barrier? Does it? Is? It just comes very close? No? I think it does. Really, I can't remember being like two hours and fifty fifty six minutes or something crazy like that. Oh it's two hours fifty six minutes. Are you serious? I'm not kidding. That's the runtime. You know. Some days, some days you just you just have it. Good for me? All right, back on track. Anderson wanted Philip Semore Hoffman to play quote a really simple, uncomplicated, carrying character. Anderson wrote the role of Linda with Julianne Moore in mind. He said that Linda's story was inspired by his own father's wife, which that's interesting for William H. Macy. Anderson felt that the actor was scared of big emotional parts and wrote a quote big tearful emotional part form are man of the hour, man of the series of Tom Cruise. Yeah, was a fan of Boogie Nights and contacted p t A while working Sorry contacted Paul Thomas Anderson while working on Eyes Wide Shut. Anderson met with Cruise on the set of Kubrick's film, and the actor told him to keep in mind for his next film. After Anderson finished the script for Magnolia, he sent Cruise a copy and the next day the actor called him. Cruise was interested, but very nervous about the role. Anderson felt that Cruz was drawn to the role because he had just finished making Eyes Wide showed Eyes Wide Shut playing a repressed character and was able to play a character that was quote outlandish and bigger than life. Can I ask a question, please, is this period to me in between Eyeswad Shut Magnolia feels like the only two times I don't I can't the only two times I can think of that. Tom Cruise plays like a very explicit sort of cursing a lot crude, not the good guy gross generally bad person role. Am I wrong? Uh? It's one of two times that he's played a role like this, the other being less grossful. Can you can you include a clip of...

...him saying he will Unlicia fucking fire storm or something like that from Tropic Thunder. Just search up Tom Cruise less grossman and it will show up. Romano. This is flaming black, Okay, flaming dragon. Fuck face. First, take a big step back and literally fuck your own face. I don't know what kind of pan Pacific bullshit power player you're trying to pull here, but Asia Jack is my territory, so whatever you think of you better think again. Otherwise I'm gonna have to head down there and I will rain down on a godly fucking firestorm upon you. You're gonna have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you. I am talking scorched earth, motherfucker. I will massaca you. I will fuck you up and now in this one, and now I mean I will and now this one. It's like I will drop kick these fucking dogs you know, yes, that's so funny. Um. Anyway, Anderson filmed a full length commercial with Cruz and even bought time on a late night TV to play it on. So that's interesting. Anderson wrote the Anderson wrote the role of Earl Partridge for Jason Robarts, but Robarts could not initially make it to due to a staff infection, and so he offered it to George C. Scott, who declined it. Um. But Robarts managed to take it afterwards. Anyways. Um. Much of the material with Partridge was based on Anderson watching his own father die of cancer. Also interesting. Uh. Anderson wanted Burt Reynolds to start in the film and an unknown role after working on Boogie Nights together, but Reynolds declined it. I've heard the Burt Reynolds was not a fan of Boogie Nights, which is interesting, yes, and him and they say like that, like the pushing screaming match besides the pool and Boogie Nights is like real rage and Burt Reynolds and that there was a lot of conflict between him and twenty six year old pt A on set, who was feeling very feisty and confident. Yeah, Jack, Yeah, I'm ready to shoot twenty minutes. I'm ready now, it's got to be now. Fuck. Hey, no, hey Jack, I'm ready to shoot now. My cock is ready. I want to funk. Let's go twenty minutes. I want to funk. Who's it gonna be? What? Who do you want to start sucking me at him? Shot up? Okay, I didn't do anything to you. What You're not even an actor, man, You've got no business being here. You're not a fucking actor. Yes I am. No, No, No, I'm an actor, man, I'm a real fun shot off. What I want you to go in there? I want you to cool off. Okay, I'm gonna come back to shoot. I said I'm ready to shoot, not now. I'm not gonna tell you again, Jack, I'm not going to shoot you in a stage here. And what do you mean? State stay state of California. I know what the funk I am to this? Christ you've been up for two days? No, I haven't been up for two days. Nevertheless, you look like you haven't been. So I ain't gonna shoot you this great because you don't look good. You don't tell me anything. Okay, Really, you're not the boss of me. You the king hunt? Yes, you can touch me. No, no, no, you shut up to You're not the mother of me. And you're not my boss. You're not my mother. You're not my fucking mom. No. No, I'm ready to shoot the scene. I want to shoot the scene. I'm fine. I want you out of here. Look it's over. Okay, I'm done. I'm ready to shoot. I want you you fucking call me a kid. Well, if you want to see me kick some ask, I don't karan. You wanna f you are fired, You're fired. No, you know what. I'm the biggest start here, man. That's the way it is. I want to fuck. It's my big dick to everybody. Get ready, fucking now, you know what. I don't need this ship. You don't fuck you fucking fuck all of you. You're not my boss, you're not the king of me. I am the fucking king of Turk. You don't not have to without me. Jack, You're fucking not the fun didn't quick. I'm so sorry, Jack, I'm so I'm to take care of The Rain of Frogs was inspired by the works of Charles Fort. Anderson claims he did not know this was a reference to the Bible when he first wrote the sequence. Which is like, I don't even know how much I believe that. Um, I don't know anything about the Bible. Is that a thing? It's a thing that it rains, that it rangs just like pests and bad stuff or specifically frogs. Um, Like, I guess I don't remember. But it just seems so like you seem like an expert on it. Two seconds ago. I'm not Cody Lawrence. Um, it's not that I'm an...

...expert. It just seems such a like biblical like it just seems like that's what it's referencing. But since this movie, or I mean, since the characters in this movie talk about like the Bible and angels and Exoduss and Psalm eight two or whatever like repeatedly, Well there there, I know that there's a rain of animals in that's Noah's ark. They put all the animals onto a boat and then then the water, and then they also survived. Anderson a New Line Wait Fuck filming began on January. It was initially scheduled to be seventy nine days, but ended up requiring ninety filming days plus ten days of second unit filming. Anderson and New Line reportedly had intense arguments about how to market the film. H Anderson was unhappy with the studio's work on Boogie Nights and did not like the studios poster or trailer for Magnolia. He ended up designing his own poet ster cut a trailer together for himself, and pushed to avoid hyping Cruise's presence in the film in favor of the ensemble cast. It seems that New Line wanted a cruise of palooza. Yeah. Magnolia opened in a limited release on December and seven theaters, and was given a wide release on January seven, two thousand. The film received three Oscar nominations for Best Screenplay, Best Original Song, and Best Supporting Actor for our main man, Thomas Cruise Maypother the Fourth has Thomas Cruise Maypather the Fourth one? How many others he's been? He has been nominated for three Oscars and has never won one, but he has one, I believe three Golden Globes for what films? Um one for Born on the fourth of July, one for I think it was this film, and one for um something else? Oh, Jerry McGuire, mm hmm. Is the best original song in this movie? Is it? This same Oh, I like that song? Do they play it twice? In its entirety? Trent, There's so many things that happened in this movie. That's three hours in eight minutes. I could not tell you. I had such a um what's what's the word? Um like surreal viewing of this movie because it was over the course of like ten hours, and it was through two different rentals and on several different devices, and each time I started just only approximately where I was the time before, and I watched it in like fifteen minute increments. And let me tell you, like, I've seen Cynthonia. Cynthia snorts so much cocaine today, I've watched how many people killed themselves. I've watched how many people crying. This cannot be a it. It is the opinion of this narrator that these events are not a coincidence. Sorry, but I love human dramas, and so I'm here to watch people talk about their issues and brooms in this big game that we play life. It's not what you hope for, it's not what you deserve, it's what you take. I'm Frank T. J. McKie, a master of the muffin and author of the seducing Destroy system now available to you on audio and video cassette. Seduce and Destroy will teach you the techniques to have any hard body blonde just dripping to what your doc bottom line language the magical key to unlocking the female analytical mindset. Tap directly into her hopes or wants, her fears, her desires, and her sweet little panties. Learn how to make that lady friend your sex star servant. I don't care how you look. I don't care what car you drive, I don't care what your last bank statement says. Seduce and Destroy Deuce is an instant money back guaranteed translate state that will get you this naughty sauce you want fast? Hey, how many more times do you need to hear the all two famous line of I just don't feel that way about you. Order now and get the entire Frank T. J McKee Saduce and Destroy system with Frank's personal magical key guarantee for the low price plus shipping and handling call one eight seven seven Tame her. That's eight seven seven eight two six seven or human dramas personally, I see um so. When offered the role of Earl Partridge, George C. Scott threw the script across the room and said, quote, this is the worst fucking thing I've ever read. The language is terrible, tough. Uh. Paul Thomas Anderson wrote the bulk of the script during two weeks he spent at William Macy's Vermont cabin. Apparently he was afraid to go outside because...

...he'd seen a snake. It's amazing to think he wrote this in primarily in two weeks. But also there are stories of um, it's the director of John Hughes, John Hughes writing home alone in like seventy two hours or something like that, and I'm moving forward. The story about the man being killed by a gunshot while falling off the building has for years been used as a hypothetical case in criminal law classes to illustrate causation. This is Jason Robard's last feature film. I had to look it up. He plays the super older guy who's dying of cancer. Tom Cruise had a similar experience meeting his father on his deathbed after a long estrangement, and asked pta whether he knew about it while he was writing the script. Part do you wanna trudge any of that up right now? Because I'm kind of curious of Tom Cruise's family history. Are you really genuinely, um, if Tom Cruise is listening to this, I'm sorry, I'm about to trudge up some probably traumatic things that happened in your life. But also you're really rich and famous and powerful, so I think you'll be okay. I would be shocked if he was listening. But if you are, flattered, flattered as always. UM. Basically, his mother and father divorced when Cruiz was twelve, and he's described as dad as like a bully, and he was apparently physically abusive with him, his mother and his sisters, and um, he did not like him. They would have to move around and stuff because his dad couldn't keep a job. He was a strange from him for like most of his life. If you watch a lot of Tom Cruise movies like I have, you will notice a running theme of daddy issues. Uh, complated and um. He received a call for him his sister saying that his his dad was gonna was in the hospital and was not going to make it pretty soon, and they've been a strange for a while. He went to go see him, and according to Cruz, the two of them just talked and he forgave him kind of and was like, all right, cool, and then they and then his dad died. Um. But because of the estrangement between him and his dad, he's apparently incredibly close with his sisters and his mom part in My final moments, I want you to come into my deathbed and forgive me, you fucking fuck for always showing up late to the show. Um okay um. So the speaking of the word funck is used one nine times, compared to The Wolf of Wall Street, which is five hundred six um. Amy Man's wise up o m amy Man's wise up was also used in Jerry McGuire, also storring Toime Cruise, So what do kids? No Show director's assistant is played by William Mapa May Pather. Oh that's the name. Who is Tom Cruise's cousin in real life? Yeah? Dialing the telephone number eight seven seven tame her from the film You Steeve a recording of Tom Cruise giving the seduction Destroyed pitch. Almost every location contains at least one picture or painting of a magnolia, which fun fact on the fun fact Um. Musician Fiona Apple is responsible for many of the paintings seen throughout the film. I think Fiona Apple and PTA were dating at the time. Yes, they were. I'm glad you bring that up. And there's a famous article and it just headlined Fiona Apple why I quit cocaine after an excruciating night with Paul Thomas Anderson and Quentin Tarantino, which I just feel like needs highlighting them. At the time released Pta stated Magnolia is quote for better or worse, the best movie I'll ever make, which I think time has proved that that was not the case. Um, yes, but more fun facts. Paul Thomas Anderson screened screened the film network to his production team before filming began. It's always fun to hear the movies, especially if there's several that the director's force that crew to watch to get in the mood. Um. Luis Guzman is credited as himself. Um, and that's that. And we're into the one star reviews. So this first one star review I added because it's reminiscent of the sound of a video that I think you are a are I think that you are a fan of I'm very humored by. Yeah, um should I should? I read this...

...like it's the kid of whoever you're referencing, sure whether it's a kid. So this is from TC. Maybe this is Tom Cruise. Imagine maybe he didn't. He didn't. It'll be like Burt Reynolds hating boogie Nights in hindsight, mostly cusswords and violence every other word. There's a cussword in this film movie and filled with violence. Can you play the sound please? Normally? No more radio on YouTube? Did you say than you are my jail? I mean, did you like guys jail? If you said, you said roccoli and observation for your whole life? No more saying it's so funny? Um should I? Should I do the next one? Should I do in the same voice? Or no? No? I think you'll be fine. But I think this this seems like guess written by a famous author. Well you said j k R. Oh you were saying j K rolling. I thought you were saying the joker j k R. I think that might be the Joker whose voice? Can Can the Joker read this? It'll be the Joker if he was in Harry Potter. Um, all right, I'll show you to the Joker A Nope, no way, forget it. It's not gonna happen. Reeks p you what a stinker. It sucks. My joker isn't as practice as yours. But I tried to would you like me to read it? You're gonna make me look silly in comparison, but no, no, no no, but it's not to make you look silley. But I read this and I was like, this is hilarious and I want to read this as the joker. Why don't you read? The next one is whilen't you read Jamie's from? So this is from Jamie and it reads disk missing. I bought this as a gift for my dad. He opened it two months later, and one disk is missing. And the missing disk is the actual movie. Complete waste of time, complete waste of money on an incomplete product that seems used and not new. Angry emoji. It's not about money. It's not about the money. It's about sending a message. Everything burns. Why should I have all the fun part? I think we're destined to do this forever. I think we're destined to talk about this film, to move into to talk about what's working, what's not working. Just that we're already up to forty minutes, we're on. We're on par to maybe get a third of the film's runtime. Now what I'm gonna do is, I'm going to read a line to you from an opera. I want you to give me that line back in the language in which the opera was originally written, and for a bonus two fifty you can see it. I'm spect. There is the story of a boy genius Thomas Kid, the peace will clam and the game shows Jimmy Gator live from her Bank, California. First question. This French playwright and actor joining the Beijar troupe of actor and the ex boy genius Chriska Donnie Smith. I used to be smart, Now I'm just stupid. There is the story of the dying man part have a son? You do find him? I'm pract t J. McKie his lost son. What did he say? Because I Am not going to take care of him? What does he want? A dying man's wife? I'm into parts as to care him through this? Allen right now then me and him? Did you understand there's no one else, no one else to caretake her. I'm Philip Parma. See this is uh the scene of the movie where you help me out and there's the story of a mother and Rose Gators. You come home soon after the show. I love you. And the daughter I'm Claudie Wilson Gator. Now that I've met you, would you Objeck to never see me again? And the police officer in law, I'm Officer Jim Curring. All life is very stressful and I'd hope to have a relationship that's very calm and undemanding and loving. So if you are this present, leave me a message at box number eight and this will all make sense in the end. This shot, I can't said. The scene is vigant, it's gotten.

This is not an easy job. I have to take everything and play as it lays. Sometimes people need a little help. Sometimes people need to be forgiven, and that is a very tricky thing in my part making that call. But you can forgive someone, well that's a tough part. What can we forgive? Was that unclean kind of God? One course? U? Now that I have you seen this movie before? I have, I have the DVD and so on one or two occasions I've put it U in the DVD player and sort of had on in the background, and I've only paid attention to it like once, but I will say that today, even though my viewing conditions were not ideal, was my first real viewing and it's also the one that I've enjoyed the most interesting. What about you. I've seen this once when I was in high school. UM, but I think it was on my phone, so I don't think that's like the most ideal way to watch a movie. UM. And then Adam vohl Rich, friend of the show, did film Club for a while where he was this talked about film Club. I would feel like I missed out you did um and we watched I think I don't remember if I was the one that suggested this movie for it or what, but basically, during Quarantine, our professor was like, everybody seems like they're going to be really depressed, so we should do a thing where we all watch a movie then go on to zoom and talk about it for an hour, which is really nice of him. But this was the movie that one of the movies that we've done for film Club, and everybody was kind of lukewarm on it. I would say, um, and my opinion of it had definitely gone down, and then this rewatch. Um. I'm somewhere in the middle I think between the first time I, like I watched it, I gave it like five stars or something. That's shocking. This does not I mean, I know it has Tom Cruise in it, but there are several elements of this movie that don't seem like your type of movie. Well it's not that it's not my type of movie. It was when I was watching it, I was like, Yo, that shot last it's so long. That's crazy, And so then I think that's why I was like, this is a masterpiece. Um, it kind of is I who I do really believe that, like defining the masterpiece is uh is hard. I know, I'm surprised it didn't find its way into either the production history or the fun facts. But it was a quote of P. T A on Mark Marin and he was like, yeah, Magnolia, if I edited that now, it would probably be an hour shorter and I would just completely uproot several of the storylines. And I feel like the implication was that he is more self aware and less and more willing to kill his babies now that he's older and wiser and um. But I feel like it was the perfect perfect movie for him at the time, and he and he definitely thought so. But I mean it says a lot that even the director tenures, you know, twenty years later, can say that his his movie could be an hour shorter, which is very soon. This is a quote that we had read in Film Club and I remembered it, um, which is funny after reading the quote of himself, Magnolia is, for better or worse, the best movie I'll ever make, because in a behind the scenes documentary feature at for the DVD, he says, quote, it's too fucking long. It's all just too fucking two. Yeah, he as he was losing his mind and even knew that it was too long. Then yeah, I think he knows that it's too long. I mean, it's Magnolia is the type of movie that's really difficult to criticize because it's not like they were aiming for something and maybe miss the mark or something. It's exactly what it wanted to be. Yeah, And so from that perspective, I really respect it, and I think there's large sections of this movie that I really do love. I mean, something that's pretty incontrovertibly true about Paul Thomas Anderson is that he knows how to put a movie together. Um, just from a technical standpoint of one of the best. And you know, I mean, I was like saying it kind of as a joke, but a lot...

...the craft here is like really something to look at, um. And I think that like how bold some of the camera movements are and just sort of the audacity of it kind of is is I think it's something to be commended. It's it's I think that that's easily like one of the best things about it is just the way that it's put together. Um. I texted you while watching this movie of saying that this movie is just one long montage, because that's that's true more or less. And and it was a thought I was having. I was like watching this movie and I was like, this feels like if you were to take the climax of a movie, but it was just scenes of climax is just happening one after another and you're just intercutting between them because everybody is just at such heightened level of emotion um all the time. And that's not like he didn't know that's what he was doing, so against it makes it difficult to criticize. But I think that's part of my problem is that because it all feels like a montage. It doesn't feel like there's scenes in the movie. Weirdly are reminded me of Elvis from this year. Wow, Um this is better than Elvis. Yes, but just in that regard, it just felt like things were just moving from scene to scene, but you're not actually getting a scene. But aren't the camera move? I mean, but there are some full scenes. There are scenes, but they're placed in this larger context of these other scenes. I mean I think that like the the few scenes that there are is the scene of the dad on his deathbed talking to um, Philip Symore Hoffman, and then um, the scene of Tom using you to his dad. Yeah, um yeah. I mean, I don't even know if like I dislike about that about the movie or um. I just think that sometimes it can be difficult to latch onto it because it's just so long and it just keeps going. I think you when you saw me today at the CSP when you were picking up equipment, I was about at the two hour mark in the film, and yeah, you had an hour left, And I told you that my body and my internal movie clock was really ready to wrap things up, and that it even seemed like the movie at times was ready to wrap things up, and I just kept hitting the cursor and seeing that there was an hour left, and I couldn't sort of help but be exhausted, and I was like, damn it, I've loved the last two hours. Why does this have to keep going? And if I was in a movie theater, I would be torturing myself because I would have to pee so bad. I think that. I mean, I don't know if this is gonna be controversial with you. I think the William H. Macy plot can go Quiz. I understand, I understand why it's there, and I understand the way it ties into um uh John c Riley's thing at the end. But I just think that there's so much happening, and I don't think you need that because everything else seems way more connected than I was just gonna say. I was trying to think about the subplot that had the least connective tissue to the other ones, and I was like, here, I have the DVD, uh, all the characters on the front to help me talk about this. But there's like the Quiz show half, and then there's like the diseased guy half, and I guess quiz kid. Donnie Smith is only an extension as in a more important character is the current host of the show, and he also will run into William into John c Riley when he's robbing the store at the end, which is which is a scene that I like. But I did think during him like it too during his bar stuff. I was kind of like, uh uh, you know, I also think that you get what what you're trying to what what p t A Is trying to get across with him, you kind of already get with the actual little kid that's there. I don't think that he's saying anything more with that William H. Macy plot line when I guess that is interesting to think of him as the adult version of the the other Prodigy kid. But when William H. Macy is like leaving the bar and he's like talking about don't confuse children with angels, I'm like, I feel like this is supposed to be deep, and I'm not sure if I'm the one missing the point if it just like isn't that deep. But...

...like I will say, I love movies just where it's like very tactile, but then at the end there is like one very supernatural but like believable thing and having the frogs to bring everything together. I think it's it's it's chef's kiss. I think, do you disagree? No, I like the thing. I like it. It's the thing you walk out of the theater talking about. It's awesome. I think my main problem with the movie is sometimes I don't really think that it's saying all that much. I guess that's the end of my sentence. Like, in terms of my favorite part, and this is not just because I'm a fanboy, My favorite part is the Cruise section, because I think that that's you see him go through an arc the most out of anybody else. Um. And I think that that's the most interesting thing in the movie because everybody else is just so like saw Burn sad and crying or about to cry, and you have this sort of burst of energy with Cruise. Um. But I think that and and the other thing that doesn't work for me really in the movie that I think I would like this movie way more if this aspect did work is John c Riley's character. What about it? I also looked up a ranking of the of the of the subplots, and John c Riley seemed to be low and the people didn't like the unresolved murder of the woman and the worm and the kid with the rap and John c Riley because that never really comes full circle, like he gets shot at and then it's unreferenced. I think that the thing with John c Riley's character is it seems a little like they didn't fully get what his character is because it seems like he's supposed to be this nice guy and that's why he he's good for the game show host daughter Cynthia. Yeah, but the problem is that your introduction to him is him being like an asshole to this woman in her house and having a cop going into this black lady's house and just being like, ma'am, you need to calm down. And like, I get, he's not meant to be like racist necessarily, but he doesn't come off like nice in that. I mean, I think it can get a pass given that the woman had a dead body in her closet, so she was guilty of something. But I agree, but she's guilty in the end, but he like forces himself in and you know what I mean, I agree that while watching it, I was thinking Johnson Riley is the most likable guy ever and then he made him a cop, which is very unlikable, and then I feel like they did a very I don't know if it's a good job. I mean, I guess it's a good job making an interesting, complex character. But I was like, he is so likable sometimes and so unlikable at other times. But and and also like the fact that he I never love in movies when it's like like he doesn't like force himself onto Cynthia or anything like that, but he is like using his position of power to like get into her apartment and then being like, well, I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to you, and that's why I just want to make sure. And that's such a like a nice guy in in movies thing that like I don't like. I don't think it's very interesting. And the thing is, if that stuff wasn't there everything else with him, I'm kind of like, yeah, no, Like I like that, and I think that that works, but because that other stuff exists, I'm already kind of not with him on that. I love when he falls down the hill and he loses his gun and he's yelling at himself, it's like so good and and I like him and I like him talking to himself in the car. I just don't know what it means. I don't I don't really understand the importance of it in the grand scheme of the movie Chance, I guess, but I don't know what the movie like it's it keeps talking about like these aren't coincidences, these were meant to happen, or kind of it's but I don't really know whether it even like means that because I don't think that it's like this was all meant to happen like this. I don't even think that that's like the point of the movie. The point of the movie more so seems like all these sort of broken people finding a way forward because it's all kind of people that are in some way are used by parents. They're all cheating on each other too. Yeah that too, um, But I just don't think that it. I think that the things that it does the most interesting stuff with is with Cynthia and with Tom Cruise's character. And I do like the kid, but I will say I do love him going to a his dad and saying you needed to be nicer to me, and...

...his dad being like fuck you. Um. It's always so funny to me, and it's I mean, it's terrible, but it's really funny. I like, I mean, I did this before when I saw you. But I want to edit in a SoundBite I was, I was going to say, you should have Julianne Morris shoot so many I saw other men's cocks, absolutely right ex voice. I don't want him to die. I didn't love him. We met, and I did so many bad things to him that he doesn't know. Are things that I want to confess to him. But but now I do. I love him. I don't know what kind of medication. Is it any fucking medication talking? This isn't I don't know. I don't know. Can you give me nothing? You you have power of attorney? Can you go? Can you go? In the final fucking moment, and changed the will, I don't want any money. I couldn't live with myself with this thing that I've done. I've I've done so many bad things, like I sucked around, I sucking cheated on I fucking cheat on him. Alan there there, you're his lawyer, our lawyer. I'm his wife. We are married. I broke the contract of marriage. I sucked around on him many times. I sucked. Other men's adultery is not against it's not something that will Linda. Oh my god. Um, she's really good in this movie. I love her. Don't call me lady. I love her. At the pharmacy, um, and I mean we talked about this too. But when she's at the pharmacy and the guy is like like eyeing her down and then she just does look like a little flick with her eyelashes and it's like she's really really looking at that guy. Yeah. I mean she's fucking awesome and everything. Yeah. Wait, and I mean while we're going down complimentary row. Um, Philip Seymour Hoffman when he's watching Tom Cruise, talked to the dad and then he just does like this like tear wipe with his fingers. Oh my god. I could watch Philip Symore dogs. I could watch Philip Symore Hoffman react to other emotional situations all day. Um, there's Trent, I'm interested to know you're I mean, this is Cruisi Palooza. I'm interested in that. Frank T. J. Mackie. Yeah. Um. The first thing comes to mind is how um I wanted to remember to talk about this. When he's first shown in the interview and he has no shirt and no pants on, and just like there is some third a third party object in his pants that is not attached to his body, and like, I guarantee it because it is not the shape of the human anatomy, you know, it is definitely not real. Um. So my thoughts on Frank T. J. McKee's subplot and its entirety. I really like that, I guess Cruise in it. I really like the interview with the woman. His haircut is crazy. I like how we like strokes. He just like strokes his hair into a ponytail a lot. Um, he's like really buff when he doesn't have a shirt on. No complaints there, Um, I kind of Trent. You were telling me all about how you liked Tom cruises buff physique over text, weren't you know, I mean there there would be no text messages to support that anyways. Um. Do you think his is the media ist of the plots? Yes, which is why it's my favorite in the movie, because he goes through I mean, we don't see him change or anything, but I would say we see the most happen with his character. Um. And it's also worth noting that, like I mean, Cruise did all. I mean, Cruise chose the wardrobe and the look for his character and his I think that his characters entrance is really good, like really strong, not not when you see him on TV, but the respect the cock monologue, one music yes, um, and apparently he helped rewrite that monologue um, and the stuff with his dad at the end um. Anderson had written dialogue, but like Cruise wasn't feeling it, so he was like, let me just like kind of like improv and feel this as we go. And I think that it works really well. Wow. I feel like that's very very real. Then to Tom Cruise his life, Yeah, I wonder if he had daddy issues, you know,...

...a complicated relationship with his father. I feel like Philip Philip Baker Hall has a lot of screen time too. Yes, what do you think about that? I mean, I like, I like, uh, I like the story a bad guy I mean in the end um, but I mean he uh. I mean, I love any ensemble and this is one of like the craziest fucking ensemble casts like maybe ever, and so we could really do. I mean that this list on the back of the DVD is very long and very impressive. Alfred Molina. He's like, oh, yeah, I totally forgot he was in this. He's like the twelfth name because he's playing a guy named Solomon who owns a furniture store and he's fucking awesome. Yeah. I guess my one issue with Philip Baker Hall's storyline is that I don't think the movie ever paints him as anything but a bad guy by the end um But with the frogs, I'm kind of confused because it seems like the frogs are meant to be somewhat like a cleansing of some kind, but I he's about to kill himself and the frog saves him from himself, and so I don't like, No, that's I guess My problem with the movie overall is sometimes it does stuff and I don't really understand, like why what that's supposed to mean in the grand scheme of things and why he get saved. I guess part you maybe through with the past, but the past ain't through with you. I feel like that if any I guess that's I guess that's, if anything, is the thesis of the movie, given they repeated so many times, but also like, ain't that the fucking truth? MM? Hmm yea um. But also just while we're here, I love, love, love the opening montage segment, however you describe it. Um. And when I had ten minutes before the episode started, I was like, what should I've already watched the movie, what should I watch while I eat my meal? And so I started watched the first ten minutes because maybe the most fun I have is in the first ten minutes, and then I gradually lose steam even though the movie, even though the movie is there's so many minutes after that. No, I'm saying, for the first two hours, I'm going up the hill, and then for the last hour, I'm going down. Okay, okay, But also some of the best scenes are in the last hour. And also we're we have any referenced the fact that there was a whole scene without just a music video where the characters just saying what were they saying? It's not Oh, I don't know that. How much I loved that, I feel like that was like the one point in the movie where I was like, this is kind of laughable, like where it's like so over dramatically sad, but I don't know, but I mean that might just be me. But at the same at the same time, I could watch Paul Thomas and interesting characters, um, snort cocaine and then whip their head back all day long. M you do bring up a good point there. What's PTS movie after this Punch Trunk Love? Yes, he will after this movie. He wanted to make something that was ninety minutes long, and Punch Struck Love is like almost exactly ninety minutes long. Wow. If we don't do what what? What PTS should we do next for this show? I mean you you want to do Boogie Nights. I know that. I mean the show isn't completely if we don't do that. What was that? I have tried extremely hard to get people from PTA movies, but I think we'll get one eventually. There's one guy that I've gotten close to, but we'll get there. Do do you have any final pros and cons that you want to talk about? Um? I feel like I guess just we've said a lot, just like good, really great performances, really great craft. I think just too long, just too much, could have done without some stuff. Um, but just a well a well made movie that. Um, yeah, it's interesting he makes this after Boogie Nights. Yeah, I think this movie is such a banger, and I think it's interesting because it's like never a movie that I'm particular lay in the mood to watch because it's...

...kind of melancholy the whole time. Yes, yeah, and it's so long, it's longer than Schindler's it's getting kind of warm. I'm well this movie when I'm hearing something, this movie is like a cold fall day, but this nuclear bomb is like the summertime. Nice skiddy. What do you think my desers neighbors think once a week when they do you think they think it's domestic abuse? I think they You must be in pain, Georgian get really mad sometimes. Yeah, no, talking about my my partner hitting me so funny when it's you and Jordan's Yes. Yeah, um, well that nuclear bomb now I have a headache, thanks part um. Who what's the implication that during the radiing s Gauntlet are we dropping the nuclear bomb? Who's dropping the nuclear bomb? No? I I don't think. I think the bomb is just getting dropped. We have no control over it from one of the US's rivals. Maybe wait, maybe it is the US just testing out there. It's like Indiana Jones isn't that what happens is it? Isn't it the US the fires off the nuke or am I crazy? No? It's the Soviets. Wait, no, there was an accident. I don't remember the Crystal Skull. Are asking where it happens, Like, who's who's in charge of that? The Americans are on the American base? Okay, yeah, so yeah, I think that it's there there at area. Okay, yeah, sorry, I just don't remember all the plot details of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull the best Indiana Jones film. Um, but Trent, you know what we should keep the details of, just like whether we'd recommend this movie, um, whether we'd we watch this movie? And like, maybe what we'd rate this movie? I can't do. The first chapter of Cruising Blues is coming to a close before our very eyes. It really is. It is coming to a close. Do you think this is the longest movie we've ever covered? Probably? It? Yes? Until we record episodes on the Lord of the Rings movies, I don't think we would ever pass this movie in terms of length. Are all of the Lord of the Rings movies longer than three hours? Yes? The extended cut of the third one, the extended cut to be fair is four hours twenty minutes, four hours twenty Hey, yeah you gotta chew with that I was saying, is then for Snoop Dogg? Who Snoop Doggie dog Snoop deal double g? So I only know Snoop lion? Oh his original his original nomenclature. Yeah, um, I have no idea how many stars to give this, sorry me? And how many numbers? You know? Would you rewatch it? Yeah? I I really I I definitely enjoyed this viewing. Um, so I would rewatch it. I would recommend it. When whenever someone is doing something Vignetti, either in creative writing class or in film class, I can't help but think about Magnolia and think about how the thing that every film student is missing is a cohesive thing that actually attaches all the storylines and then something cool that happens at the end, like the frogs that actually, um, you know, is a satisfying end to all the to the respective storylines. Um, but what would I give it? So first, p t A made the last one. For a while, I'm going with like an eight, like if this like this, this movie is right up my alley and it only makes me have a complicated relationship with it because it is so long, and because it is simply so sad. But sometimes I can be sad and long, and so maybe we deserve each other. I think you're destined to do this forever. I heard, you know, our film advisor woman Jackie Yes, Jackie Yes, friend and friend off the show, Friend off the Show. I was listening to car Seat Headrest, a band, a good band on YouTube in the equipal manipulator brand band. I mean that anyone involved in the band...

...as a male manipulator. But it's just the stereotype that the listeners of the band, but not that the members of the band themselves are problematic. Um, only it's followers, I guess, but talented musicians. Nonetheless. Jackie Stephen walks by and she says, are you okay? And so I turned down the music and she's she says, I heard someone crying down the hallway and they just wanted to come and make sure everything was okay in here. And I was like, oh, that was just I was just listening to music. She was like, it sounded like someone was crying. It's very funny. Well, Frank, the show, we don't know what we don't know what we'd do without you. Thank you for telling me what credits? How many credits I have? I would recommend this movie. I mean it's it's definitely one of a kind. I can't think of a movie that's quite like this. Yeah, I don't. I don't want to leave the show or this earth without acknowledging how banger the camera movements are in this movie. They're so him Like the introductory shot of Stanley like over all of the tables as he's like in the library with all the books, and I'm like, literally, unless you're hanging from the ceiling, how do you do this like Dolly like move maybe with like a crane? Um, but like what a beast to figure to figure that out? And also I love UM like PTA and David Fincher is so good at like extreme close up inserts of like writing and stuff. Yes, the craft is textile on display. Yes, Craft Well on Display. Craft Services is our show where we talk about Welcome back to Craft Services, where we talk about the movies UM had sound mixer John Pritchett. Um. But yeah, I would recommend this movie. I would rewatch scenes of this movie. I don't know the next time I rewatched the whole movie, um, just because again I think I really like parts of it. Um, I don't. I think that watching the whole thing is a tall order. UM, but I think i'd rate it a seven. I think it's it's different enough from other movies and really well made, um, really good performances and just like good writing. It's I just think that the whole is a little bit less than the sum of its parts. Personally. I know that there's like Slacker, I believe, and other examples of um anthology films, but this is the best anthology film I can think of. Well, this isn't really an anthology film. An anthology film is like it's short films, like they're actually not connected. So just so just na, yeah, I mean, I guess this is like an ensemble or like, yeah, I don't know what you would call all this. What are other movies like this? I don't know. Most movies aren't like this, like like way more connected. But maybe once upon a time in Hollywood. Oh wait, no, pulp fiction. Yeah, fiction is probably closest to this. That's obviously a really good exam and I guess before this, yes, but not that much before Um. Also, this movie last year. Okay, apparently they make books about how good this year and movie making was. Yeah, I would recommend it. I would rewatch parts of it and a seven out of ten. It's not so far from you. Both of our parents sat through all of the movies and then like a few months passed and then they were like, let's start a family. You know, Um, the movies of two thousand weren't really that good. So they're like, ah, well, what's an example we got it? Well, I don't know, I'm just the joke is that, like they couldn't enjoy going to movie theaters so instead they Yeah, I wouldn't want to say it. Wait, Broth, I literally have no idea what you're referencing. Alright, almost it's not a concept. I think you're aware of almost famous scary movie Love and Basketball. Um, a lot of Freddie Prince jr. Um. But the Patriot, you know, the Patriot came out. Remember the Titans. Requiem for a Dream? This is getting more interesting. Requiem for a Dream is meant to be good. I've never seen it. Unbreakable, Yeah, I haven't seen Recoste, but remember the Titans is good. Dude wears my car I watched that the other day. You were disappointed, right, Yeah, someone who smokes weed. I really wanted to enjoy it, and it's not that good. Sorry part what sorry? Parts? Mom and dad?...

Sorry both relatives? Um should we? I mean, we could just let this episode continue for another two hours, or we could just we're at our one hour, fifteen minutes of recording. If we go for another two hours, we'll beat Magnolia. I was gonna say my original goal should be ninety minutes because that's the length. Um that just so we could be a major motion picture. So, I mean, I guess ever reached. Yeah, we must. Oh no, we've done the two hour talk before. What was the two hour talk? Well, I guess this can't holy count, but it was our last Jedi episode. We know we can't count. We recorded two hours of discussion, but you had to edit down at it out like an hour of Oh my god, I remember that. I remember the call was hours hours hours, Yes, only because we're wrapping up. I when you were talking about viewing movies on your phone earlier, or how that was the original viewing of this movie. I meant to reference the time that I walked into a friend of the show, join Stickfusa's house and their house me Ryan Morales Ak Mr M was on the couch um in the dark with headphones on, with this phone horizontal held incredibly close to his face, and then we flick on the light and we say, what are you watching? Goes Yo, I'm watching this movie Whiplash. Have you heard of it? It's super good? And I was just like, Wow, Whiplash maybe the great one of the greatest films the last ten years. I'm glad it is being discovered under these ideal viewing conditions. I was gonna say we should cover Whiplash, but I just realized we have Sometimes we're better than we even mean to be. Yeah. Uh wow, it ain't easy being green, No, it is not. Part Don't you want to have the amount of creative freedom and money to just make a three hour movie? Though? Don't you have to respect the hill? Because I do. I don't even want to hear about it because it's just gonna make me depressed. Um, but um, you know what should be really easy or what is really easy is um listening to listening to this show and telling your friends and family and liking and subscribing and giving us five stars and leaving a comment on your favorite streaming post podcast service. So that's all of the things. UM. Follow us on all of our social media Instagram and Twitter. We'll see how a litch longer Twitter is around. Yeah, it's crazy how quickly that's crashing and burning. Yeah, and you feel can you feel it like from day to day it getting worse? Not really, it's I mean, it's like mostly the same. And I'm sure a lot of people are having fun talking about the fact that it's people are bullying Elon Musk so hard that apparently Elon Musk is saying that he's just going to hire somebody else to run it. So that's there. Um, but that's whatever I think. I mean, like it sucks that he owns it and it's bad for humanity. But I think people are also like overreacting, um to certain elements of it. The Musk the less I like him, So yeah, not a great guy. Um ten kids when he has ten kids and more I think on the way, and you want to know one of his I believe his daughter's transgender and um legally changed her name because she did not want to be associated with him, and when asked about it, he said, well, I have pretty good relationships with most of my other kids, so you win some and you lose some. Yeah, that's not ideal. No, um, wow, next week. Wait, now that we took about. Now that we're checking our emails while the other person is talking, let's talk about what's happened next week. Well I wasn't doing that, but it's interesting you were. Next week we talked about collateral with who do we have? Trent? I pass it off to you because I didn't remember, and I thought you might. Great. Look what you did, Clint. Clint gonna keep that in the edit. Clint Wallace No, no, but what did he do? I knew that I'm trying to I didn't know. Um, set decorator right, Art Department Production.

I think it was set a set decorator. That that sounds about, right, Clint Wallace Production? Uh News, this is a doctor strange guy? Yeah, I think I think it is. Um. Oh, here he is, I remember this guy. Join us next week for our interview with set decorator. Clint Wallace worked on a bunch of cool things. Curious Case of Benjamin Button, John Wick three, Tuppan Maverick has some cool stories. Another two part episode, it'll be uh part one um of the two total parts. Yeah, um but yeah next week, Trent, half my thesis will be shot. By the time this episode comes out, your shoe will be quarter Yeah, a quarter of it will be done. Wow. Well you should all right, you should probably you should probably go shot list or shot list, shot list, already shot listed but no, but I need to like go to bed. Um. Alright, good night to you guys, and next week we love you. Goodnight, loyal listeners. In the New York November account of they died for the murder of Sir Edmund William Godfrey, large father pharmacists, an all around gentleman, resident of all Greenberry form lung, he was murdered by three vagrants boggles. They were identified as Little Stanley Berry, Wish Grand Movie, both Green Very Hills, and I would like to fish. This was a matter of chinns. As reported in the Reno Gazette June of nineteen eighty, there is the story of the fire, the water that took them to contain the fire, and the scuba diver named Delmers Down June employee a Nugget Hotel and casino Storno d is the Black water where light and well regarded as a chis a co Recreationally, it's more gey list for the Lake Reno Conserve. Employee for Dublin Hotel and Casino Gen.

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