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Episode 85 · 8 months ago

LAST NIGHT IN SOHO (2021) Discussion

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Trent and Parth go to sleep at night and become prostitutes, but then after a brief dance number, wake up and return to their normal lives as podcasters.

Edited by Trent Algayer

Good, ladies and gentle man, we are tonight's entertainment. Hold One, two, three, hundred and two, three four. One, two, three. Now, was I rushian or was I drank? Guys? WERE LUCIA TA body? I don't come Foo Gilling. Get away from her, you bitch. What's in the fuck your box? Hold onto your bucks. As far back as I can remember I always wanted to be a gangster. So, Trent, what have you been eating recently? So parth, hello, you're looking well. Thank you. I saw you just an hour ago. I've in person and if here we are through the laugh and I was pretty crazy. Her friend off the show, Tamar, asked why don't you guys just record together, and we said it's for the quality of the audio as much as part. And I would like to hang out and podcast simultaneously, it's simply not possible. I think it's funny that we have probably, like, hung out, so much more online than we ever have in person, though the amount of man hours that we spent digitally is certainly certainly exceed it's the amount of top like me, maybe with the year of classes, if that's defined US hanging out, but like us, in one of our apartments, like watching, watching TV. Yeah, it's very little. We'd recorded at least fifty episodes before we came back in person, like because that was our director special and that happened way before we came back to school. So I'm going to say something like sixty sixty five episodes we'd recorded, right, and how many of them have been in person? Like three army of darkness? No, only, only our army of darkness thing was fully in person. And then the intro with our dark knight and row and our Judas in the Black Messia intro. You're never full episode, but there is like an army of darkness. I think we are particularly chipper when we are recording together, though, but we can't talk over each other, and that is something that we love to do. Oh Shit, I'm incorrect. Evil Dead we record. We recorded evil dead together in person in my room. We took my talking back by you remember, and my living I remember. Judas in the Black Mesiah are are recording conditions were particularly poor. We were sprawled out on the floor of your basement with no like proper tables or chairs. We were recording off of like a Lego box. Yes, well, speaking of what I've been eating. I slurped up and apple sauce at the screening we were just set while playing eight ball, Pusson with you. No spoon or Choire, don't, don't, don't tell Rucker's film. We did that, though, that we played a ball poll. During the screening. George, friend off the show, also just kept texting me about how much he had to Fart but that the people surrounding us he respected creatively too much to fart around them. And I the movie was only an hour long, but still, you've got applaud the guy for holding the Fart for over an hour to save his future career. It would be sabote to me. Yeah, it would. He turned to me and said, I've got a pace in that act. Yeah, he was having all sorts of like bodily time bombs. He said that every time he goes on to the screening or every time just before screening, he downs a smoothie and that that's always a mistake, and I was like, don't make that mistake, buddy. I saw him SIP and coffee and I'm like, Dude, if you're talking about INTESTA issues and intestinal issue, I just really think you're you're pushing you're pushing yourself.

Call for cliff yeah, really. But then I got home and I had an encore of a granola bar and some some orange juice, and sometimes when I drink aren't Jes in the morning I'm like, I see why I, like Red Blooded Americans, do this, like this is a pretty nice way to start the day. Yeah, what are you? You just you just broke the number one rule. Well, I didn't break it, but I almost didn't do it. Usually it's me getting trent to eat something because he's not eating anything in the day. But it's as of recording one hundred two PM and I had not eaten anything in the day and we were about to record and I realized, Shit, I haven't eaten anything. It was a real roll reversal, but I grabbed a girl scout cookie, a lemon up, if you will. Oh wait, so where do these girls cookies come from? which flavors do you have with personal favorite? My when I came back, I went home, well, I guess it was spring break last week, and I came back and my dad had bought a bunch of girl scout cookies and was like just take them all, I'll buy some more just from like outside the grocery store. Does he like? No, no, girl, a girl Scout. Well, there's a girl on our street and she is in Girls Scout. So I don't know if it was from her or if it was from like the grocery store, because that either way is, you know, possible. But to answer your question, I have docie dose lemon ups and saw a third kind I can't remember right now. No Tag alongs, no thin mince, no Samoa's, the Tree Bois. I really want Samoa's. So I was yeah, favorite, so I's. As a kid I was like oo, coconut and then I hit a certain age and I was like Oooh, coconut, you know. Yeah, no, it's it's luxury. You know. I thin mints in the Freezer. I know that's nothing new, but yeah, that's pretty innovative. Tag alongs it in any under any condition. Isn't it crazy that girls cookies haven't been like licensed and are so aren't sold at the grocery store all year round, like what a luxury I did? It's like upsetting that they aren't, you know, but like really do you think they don't do it? Because they would have to give you like a legit amount of cookies because, because you can only buy it two months out of the year, when you pay four hundred and fifty and you get twelve cookies, you just have to kind of shrug your shoulders. Yeah, and I guess it's also a scarcity thing that like you want them just that much more, you know, and if you buy enough cookies, you can like help little little Susan like earn enough points for a bike, a mountain bike. Wow, well, Susan needs a mountain bike, then you know, we'll have to buy some Samoas. Welcome back to craft services, where we talk about the pictures. Wait, that's what I usually say. The movie that yeah, each week we talked about a film and hopefully have a crew member that worked on that film to talk with us about their experience working on the picture. There it is. Oh, there you go. Last week. Who did we have last week on our little show? We have far, I. None. I was building to that. None other than the said Dresser of last night. Soho, you thought I for out our name, Judy far, the sad dresser of Usta, and so just looks like you were like like scrolling on your laptop and I was like I'll save Trent. But, more importantly, she worked on a bunch of other cool movies also. No, yeah, no, I mean she worked on the king's speech. She worked on other movies that will. She had a whole story about working on eyeswight shut with Stanley Kubrick, which she did not tell on air because we didn't know that she'd worked on it until we we're talking with her off are. But listen to our episode last week to hear what it was and go to our instagram to see if you can decode the lost, the the as of yet undecipherable Stanley Kubrick message. No one's been able to do it. Maybe it's because his cursive is like so unintelligible. Yeah, but he's a smart man, despite the onset...

...abuse and so, but he wanted it. He's also is short. Five four, five four to five six. According to our interview with Judy far she said that she's five four and she was about the same height as him, despite what the Internet says about him being five eight. That's awesome cool. So our this is a special episode in the way that it's a speed episode. Yeah, only because we are on a time restraint where I have to go to work in there in thirty two minutes approximately, give or take five minutes, and for that reason we'll be moving particularly fast. Yeah, we're going to try to speed through all of our information and get straight to the movie as quickly as we can. No, Shenanigan's, Trent, you know, we have to take a brief detour to discuss the Batman delude. Seen those recently deleted, and then we can move into the business. Trent asked me a question. Riddle me this, riddle me that. I mean, what's got to start somewhere. Would you think of the joker design? I think it's okay. I think it's a little too Dir reminiscent. Well, it's not like I feel. I've heard a lot of people say that it's very similar to Heath Ledger and I don't think it's that. I think it's different enough to get away with it. Yeah, I agree, and I also, like Matt Reeves, this thing that this isn't he didn't fall in a VAT of acid and he didn't get he doesn't have scars. He was born with like a physical disability in his face, and that's why he has this nihilistic point of view, and that's why he looks like that. I'm cool with that. Like, I think that's interesting. I just wish that he wasn't so grotesque looking. His teeth were very unsettling. He's British, you know, a British joker. I don't know if my brain can take that. Has there ever been? I don't think there has. I think they've all got a Michaelson. Wait, heat, no, heath ledgers, Australian. Oh, true, that's still not British, you know. Wait, and Caesar Romero. I mean not to judge his ethnicity based on his name, but that's not a very white guy name. He's White, Caesar, remember. Oh, yeah, I'm looking at a picture. Um, is he yeah, he's not Hispanic. No, I don't believe he is, but I thought it was good the scene. He's Cuban. He's Cuban. I'll checkmate. Sorry, part I did. I had had to do it. Cute. Wait, Cubans can see. They're like a lot of Cubans. Or White. What are you talking about? His mother was said to be the biological daughter of Cuban nationalist hero Jose Martie. His father was born in Barcelona, Spain, and immigrated to the United it's in one thousand eight hundred and eighty eight, where he wasn't mean you can be white like that doesn't mean you can't be white. Yeah, I guess he's from say, but he's not. So, but he's like European. He's not, but we can agree that he's not American, I guess. I don't think we want to get too lost in the sauce here, but I just like to talk about the joker, point being I thought the scene was shot very well and I think it was interesting. I think it was the right decision to cut it violence and so all right, cool puzzles, so articulous. Thank you playing. I know he's an old body wants somebody mayor at...

...the confisure. He's got a you think it's monious political. This is very, very personal. Feels these people have all wrong. Goes Way back on heeled. How Sto lunch money? Why should write to me? Maybe he's a fan of yours, maybe he's got a grudge against it. So maybe, or main course, any fiery only so it could, but something is different this time, physically upsetending to you. Let's get back here. You want so much more fun you're to talk about, well, you have to talk about I want to know how he thinks. You know exactly how he thinks. Have you read this vile intlaugh so much a car? Yes, Jackson Clark and I talked about how it basically just hits the same beat of like the riddler and Batman being the same, and I thought that, since we have like kind of a similar instructure interrogation scene with a riddler later on, that it would have just felt like we were just interrot limiting the power of that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Also, call me crazy. Could you understand like much of what the joker was saying? I heard a lot of people could play. I could understand him like pretty easily. I don't know. A lot of people, though, were saying that they wanted sub titles because they could not understand what he was talking about. In my mind, it would be annoying how they opagued him the whole time or like concealed or didn't put them in focus at all. But the shots were like so beautiful that I was willing to look past it. Like the shot was I at that one. You get that one close up. Yeah, but when the glass is in Focus, yeah, pretty awesome, so crisp, but also it's just like ecstasy in any capacity to see additional Batman content, like like in jet inject it into my veins. But we're not waiting through Batman content. We're great last night, Soho content. In My playwriting class, this kid with a marvel avengers and game background on his laptop said that Batman was quite bad and that spider man, no way home is the best movie ever. In the same slism, I just had a conversation with Alex Laine, who said that the movie quote blue, that he did not like it, that he thought that Zoe Kravitz was bad as catwoman and that he did not like the riddler. Alex Lane, I know we had you on for the spider man episode and your friend of the show and everything, but that's a nice, cold, freezing take, my guy. Well, what then? I hot take. A cold take is one that there would be sad a lot. Yeah, a hot take is one that's like goes against the grain. But I feel like a hot take also implies that it's like good or something. But how do you have a gun? Really a bad hot take? I guess so. Yeah, yeah, a lot of people, I mean like Jack Jackson Clark famously has bad hot takes Ouch hates to be Jackson Clark right now, but I'll Alex Lane. I thought you liked, like Moody, Garmo del Toro, movies about people walking around in the rain. Isn't this just that? But like with Batman, also, Alexon is also known for liking boring movies, which the Batman was not. So maybe that was what did it for him. And people do like to dislike fun cool things sometimes. No, yeah, but it's time to talk about a different fun cool thing, Trent. Is it not? It is, it's last night. It's little edgar right corner, because Scott Pilgrim was also...

...done very recently. Yeah, YEP, Trent. You want to do you want to give a ten out of ten word where synopsis? I'm stretching out trench. Yeah, Trans doing a little lump. Sure, I'm doing all shitting out his body. Little wiggi wiggle. I'm out of practice. We've been we've been putting this responsibility on the guest or the interview e for a while now. It's Thomas and McKenzie. That's too. Becomes fashion designer in London question mark, and also zombies. Ten, I can live on the question. Question. Question Mark Doesn't count. That's just a punctuation put right. It is a punctuation mark. So sorry saying I have a bonus word. Okay, enough, you fit just ten. I want to also, I wish I had space to talk about like the ghost prostitutes or like the mirrors or the s of at all, but this isn't review the movie in twenty words. It's ten, baby. Yeah, the actual synopsis is an aspiring fashion designers mysteriously able to enter the s s where she encounters a dazzling want to be singer. But the Glamor is not all it appears to be and the dreams of the past start to crack and splinter into something darker. Came in. And what's The sudget? What's the box office? So the budget is forty three million doll hairs and the box office, according to what this says here on our Google Drive Document, is twenty three mill so that would be a loss of money. Yeah, so they had less money after they made the movie than before. I would see that way unfortunate. I feel like this movie, I didn't hear that many people talking about it, was like the people who like movies. Coins some of them went to see it, but like, I feel like it didn't, yeah, treadge up that much internet discourse. Yeah, I mean it's hard to say whether it would have done well or better if it was not the pandemic. Well, it was released in the theaters. No, it know it was. It was. But at what stage of COVID was it? Well, it was. It would our it are already been filmed. It was filmed in we'll get into production history next, but it was filmed at two thousand and nineteen. But it was supposed to be released April two thousand and twenty, but then obviously that didn't happen and then it was supposed to come out the RELEA state got changed a bunch and then it finally came out in like October or so of two thousand and twenty one. But I think that kind of screwed it a bit. But I think that it people kind of aren't going to the movies for things that aren't like huge essential feelings. Yeah, but I guess we should just get straight into the production history. I guess. So all I'm going to speed through this because we have not that much time. Twenty three minutes and counting to discuss an entire two hour film. Go So Edgar Wright first conceived at the idea for the film in Two Thousand and seven, pitching the plot as a quote, Dark Valentine to London and the Soho neighborhood, two producers near a park and Rachel prior prior to the start of filming for the world's end. Edgar Wright grew up in Somerset and listen to his parents stories of coming of age in the S, which contributed to his adoration of the era. His mother's memories of the swinging s London. However,...

...we're not always fond ones. She once said, quote. I went to Soho once with my friend and we got harassed by a man and chased out, and that's the end of the story. writes. Obsession with S London helped shape the themes of last night and Soho. Saying quote something that I find truly nightmarish, and I guess there's an element where I'm sort of giving a sharp review to myself. Is the danger of being overly nostalgic about previous decades. In a way, the film is about Romanticizing the past, and why dot dot dot. It's wrong to do that. Filmmaker Sam Mendes first introduced Edgar to screenwriter Christy Wilson Cairns. Wilson carens told right in passing that you worked as a bartender at the token in Soho, in Soho for five years. Right then pitched at the story of last night and so on the night of the Bregsit vote in two thousand and sixteen, he felt pressure to begin working on a sequel to baby driver as soon as it's press store had ended, but decided to instead go in a quote, radically different direction for his next film. He then asked Wilson carens if she wanted to co write the screenplay for the last night Soho. They wrote the first draft of the they wrote the first draft of the script in six weeks before she had to leave to start working on nine hundred and seventeen with Sam Mendez. Right originally wanted the one thousand, nine hundred and sixty scenes to have no dialog or only be accompanied by music, saying that they should be like dreams. Wilson Karen's, however, suggested the character sandy had to have dialog, saying, quote, we have to fall in love with Sandy, and I think it's difficult to fall in love with her if she doesn't say anything. She also proposed a scene where sandy auditions at a Soho nightclub called the Rialto. As soon as she suggested it, right knew that sandy should sing Petula Clark's quote downtown last night, and so I was originally titled Red Light Area. And then the night has a thousand eyes last night, and so the title originates from one thousand nine hundred and sixty eight hit single by the English pop band Dave D Dozy, beaky, Mick and titch. And a conversation right had had with a film with filmmaker quote, and a conversation right had had with Quentin Tarantino who said that Alison if a conversation right had had with filmmaker Quentin Tarantino who was told by Alison Anders that left last night and Soho was the best title music for film that's never been made. A Great Rish Edgar Wright initially had Anna Taylor join in mind for the role of Elouise, but later came around to the idea of her playing sandy after she agreed. Reading a draft of the script Taylor Joe's casting was announced in February. Two Thousand and nineteen. Thomas and McKenzie and Matt Smith were cast shortly thereafter. Die And a rag, terrance stamp Rita Tushingham, Michael a Joo and Sivan Carlson. Apologize if that's not how it's pronounced rounded out the rest of the cast in June two thousand and nineteen. Filming began may twenty three. Two Thousand and nineteen was completed on August thirty. It was originally scheduled to be released the September twenty five of two thousand and twenty, but was delayed to April twenty three two thousand and twenty one due to covid nineteen. It was then again delayed to October twenty two, two October twenty two and then again to the following weekend. Then premiered at the two thousand and twenty one Venice International Film Festival on September Four. Two Thousand and twenty one trent so some so some fun facts are the scene where eloise first seas send it to the mirrors done practically to achieve the mirror fact. The cloak room attendance played by twins James Phelps and Oliver Phelps, who played Fred and George Weasley in the Harry Potter series. All of the shots of London during the end credits were completed during the covid nineteen global pandemic. The empty streets are as they were as England at the time of a national lockdown. Thomason McKenzie dropped out of top gun maverick to start in this movie. WHOA, wow, whoa. What world do you think she would have play in that? I believe. In top gun maverick there's a bartender played by Jennifer Connolly and she was going to play her daughter. WHOA. The one thousand nine hundred and sixty scenes were shy with anamorphic lenses and spherical lenses were used for the modern scenes. This is the first Edgar right film to have a female protagonist. Way To go.

Well done, dracossos, the name Edgar Wright would have received if he'd been born a girl. Hurricane Joe Costa, both Thomas and Mackenzie and on Taylor Droy have worked with director m night Chummel on Oh, because I guess split and old now. Yeah, Oh, there you go. The my one main question from the production history is, are you glad we got this instead of baby driver? To point out, yes, for because that reason rather well, like a there's the question of the fact that the main character is played by a rapist and that that kind of puts a damn brown things. It's it's always not ideal if that's the case. And the other is that I would rather have a new, original film than a sequel to a film that did not need a sequel. All things aside, baby driver good movie, but doesn't need a second one. No, not not even at all. It really does. It tells a complete story and anything more is needless. But I guess it's One Star Review Time. I guess. So you want to start us off? Sure. This one's by Matthew Ja Wendell and his description is it's just like fifty shades of gray and it says synopsis. Girl fantasize but becoming a prostitute. Becomes a prostitute, but this time there's zombies involved. And the best plot twist in the movie is how it cuts to the ending credits like this just doesn't make sense, like that's just not what the movies well, because she doesn't want to be a prostitute. It like, is it? It's like a bad force that like captures her. Yeah, this one's by Russell Nagy. Nice name, it says. This movie makes no sense. What a waste of time and money. I should of went to del Taco. You're been about Dell Taco. Parth, I know you've seen like half a ho, but have even have Taco? I have it. But you want to know who, I assume have been to del Taco. The Russell people who found this helpy helpful, I would imagine, and Russell Nagi. So five. I wonder if Marjorie, a Godsee, found it helpful when she said I hadn't realized I bought this. Somehow I bought this and I didn't realize saw it in my statement. Couldn't figure out how to negotiate my way around getting someone help. Didn't happen. Very disappointed. Marjorie kind of sounds like story. No, she sounds like a hopeless old woman. Whenever people do the same, likes first sentence for the subject line and then they just rephrase it in the body. I just feel sad. Yeah, me too. You're not making full use of the format, you know. No, no, no, I couldn't agree more. Well, part much like the Batman last week. I've watched last night and so one point five times and I think nice. It's the time where we talked about it brings you down it. I'm saying funding closed to fashion right rooms on the top draw if I love it, I could live any place at any time. I lived here in London in the sixty S. I agree. What's working, what's not working? Trent should which which would which one do you want to start out with? Let's sorrow with what's working. Sure, I think what's working is that Edgar Wright is a great director and really whatever he does I'm on board for. I was watching this movie last night with Duran Sick Fust and she's we were stop it and we about twenty minutes in and she was like this movie is not at all what I expected, given that eggar right as the director. And I said elaborate, she said, she said I thought it was going to be a lot more like eight hundred and twenty four, but it's more like lifetimey. But she's like it's like a really good lifetime movie, and I mean within the first that. No, we only watch the first half. So with all within the first half, all the set up and walking around and dot to dialog...

...and talking at tables. It's like a really good lifetime movie. But then the second I guess that's fair. This would have to be an extremely good lifetime movie because with really impressive technical achievement, I would say the most the thing that's working the best here is just the visual and audio wizardry. Technical wizardry happening behind IRA, like the mirror stuff, is pretty impressive. The camera movement is Pretty Pretty Dope. I love the sixty scenes. I the last thing I watch was Anya t other joy montage, dancing and a much of different outfits to a funky song and like swindling these men buying her drinks, and I was like this is fun. Is called gift. I can see people, I see things, others caught. It's just the first this worst preeple never get to their dreams then, not just dreams. Don't want to. Do you think? I think you could just walk away. It really happened. What did you see? As always ed great, as like a precise director. He's like a perfectionist. Everything about the way this looks, I think, is great. Everything about the way this sounds is great. I think all the performances are really good and I really like the kind of we talked about. I have the duck and they talked about last night in Soho and they said that it was essentially what if nostalgia tried to kill you? And I think that's kind of an awesome premise, kind of and I really like the story of this movie. It feels very original to me and yeah, that's probably my favorite stuff in the movie. I guess I hadn't thought of it that way, but really it's like, yeah, it's the romantic image of like a past time in your mind and then you get it and you're like, Oh shit, like there were different problems back then compared to our new problems now. Yeah, and and it's like that. It's like have all men ever been bad? Or is it just old men, or is it new men? To it just it, just most of them, it seems, and I appreciate that now, especially with like how many like things we have, they're calling back to older things to have a movie that's a original and be kind of limbasting calling out to the past and like wanting to live in the past and a movie that's essentially saying you have to move forward, which I like that, and I think that Edgar right handles all the like. I mean we're too ostensibly straight assis men. Yeah, but I think he handles I think he he handles all of the gender politics pretty well. I think he kind of shows, again, I'm a man saying this, but like he does show, like what it's like being a woman in London, what that could be like and how that can be outside of this kind of supernatural horror elements. That can be kind of horrifying in its own right, and I like that. Like the Color Palates Really Nice. Yeah, definitely. Also, I love, Love, love when they first go to the s and it's like the booming music and then she turns and it's like the Sean Connery thunderball movie theater like that's, yeah, pretty stunning. So much as reach to you with your hand resting in my...

I feel up. Yeah, no, I agree. I think all of the like stuff in the s just looks like phenomenal. I mean the whole movie looks really good and it's not shot by bill pope, which that's been his guys like go to for a while. It's by, I believe, Chung whong shun something like that, and I don't know what else he's done, but this is pretty good work. Yeah, though, the handmade he shot the handmaiden. Upon rewatch, I wasn't expecting to be as engaged as I was and even though I know the direction that the story is headed at this point, I was still very you know, I wanted to ignore it, but I was like Oh, I was like these shots are very kinetic. It's hard to fall asleep with the amount of energy pulsing through my small laptop right now. I'll say this. I'm I'm majority positive on this movie, but I kind of have more to say about what I didn't like. was just going to say let's talk about some bad and then we can circle back with a rosy sum up if need be. I think that the movie a there's the the friend character, which Trent and I have both talked about as being kind of completely useless and unrealistic sidekick. That's not really helpful. We were just like what a weird character with like a weird percentage of screen time, but they're also like the fourth lead. If you look at the poster and you're just like but you're also like barely in the movie and you're just like here as an accessory to be like another male you're here to be like the nice one male friend guy. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I guess this is all spoilery. I guess we're deep into spoiler territory right now. But like at the end of the movie, I guess you want to talk about you want to talk about the end of Myne yeah, let's talk about the end of the movie. I think this movie wraps up really fucking quickly. It was like they were running out of budget and they were just like we have to get this done now. And I mean this movie is an hour and fifty seven minutes long, and to me it's like the all, we gotta get an under two hours. Yeah, and and and, because of that, it all kind of wraps up in this really like way too nicely, in a bow, where the end sequence of her having her own like fashion show and her friend will boyfriend, whatever you want to call him, who's also a fashion designer and should be showing in the show, is just in the audience clapping along, like it doesn't make any sense. Like when I watch her for the first time, I was like this is tying up the loose ends so quickly that it seems like it's making fun of itself. Yeah, because, like the end almost seems like a parody, because she's literally like finger gunning, like the enemy, and then like her grandma's there and she's like grandma, Mama told me not the sill were Mama. Moma told me, Mama, that's still Mama told you, fucking gum mamma. Now mammy, my Mama Tis, I'm anging that...

...like that alway. Told me I'm a get to beg of angle. I'm got caught you up plank, and then her. And then now she has the the boyfriend. Suddenly it's like all the all the characters who are bad or in pain, all the characters who are nice are pumped with the fashion show. Yeah, should we talk about the twist? That happens the to the twist, you said, I guess. I guess were two before you all right, before we enter the twist, plural one would jump to me out of me. This time. The grandma character, like her, I guess, legal guardian, like she's the most like weird, sweet old woman ever. They just gives me the weirdest vibes like maybe she's a bad actor, but I don't know. I was it like trailer season Nice. How is everything? You never tell me anything anymore. Everything's great, grand good. Why? Beautiful? That I know one we had to pub. Who Bunch was having fun? Wait, yeah, Hurricane Gusto. Everyone really do class. Something's wrong, Elly, I can hear it in your voice. I really am a good walking here, walking there. Why? I moved out those he did you get a place some where? You did something happen? Did you see her again? No, no, I'm here with me. Or Stroll. There's a cool something's up there. I might crazy. Do you hear it like I did? I didn't mind her, but I do kind of know what you're saying. It does gives like strange have you ever seen the movie The visit? No, that I'm not Shouma. It doesn't matter. It's just like weird, like grandparents were like. Or sometimes you know how you like. You meet an old person and they're very nice to you, but you're just like something's always that. What was that? Yeah, what's going on here? What's in your closet? Where are you? What are you hiding? You know part of you seen x. Yet there are a lot of thoughts. That's right, I'm watching. I'm watching x tonight at thirty. You're in for a treat. Oh, you saw it, you liked it, I did, sorr. Are You Sentima? Did you? Have you seen the trailer or no? I'm going in blind. Okay, then I'll then I'll say nothing. But but you know, I gave it four stars. Farmers Daughter, take one. I need to be famous. Way, all the best people are. Nobody else that toller. He you know. Wow, you got that x factor. They just struggling. May Soon be over, Collin, and here we sell. More importantly, the twists. Talk speak on them. So I guess the first twist is that terrence stamp plays an old man who we think is the older version of Matt Smith. Okay, Matt Smith Six, it's interesting actor named cool. Yeah, Oh, all matts me, Phinney. That's what he talks like. By the way, sorry, Adam Bowl Rich, for making fun of the British accent. It's just too funny. But they are kind of setting up that he's going to be the older version, and then the...

...twist is that he's not. He was the COPPA signed to look into Sandy, but he was just also a creep and a woman has her himself, which I don't mind it. It's kind of a nothing reveal, but like, I don't mind it. But the bigger twist is at the end is that sandy was not killed. She had been killing all of these men and that the the landlord of ONA, Tailler, of Thomas, and Mackenzie's character was the living, Yep, you murderer, prostitute, which I'm cool with. What I think is weird is that she tries to kill her is, she tries to kill Thomas and McKenzie was out of know where. She try was killer because she's like well, now that you know this, I can't let you go out into the world because then you'll tell people and then I'll get arrested. But yeah, it just think, Terry Abrupt. I feel like they should just be like girl power and the Thumbson Mackenzie should be like I'm not going to say anything, let me go, I'm going to move back home now and let's both live quiet lives and this house doesn't have to burn down and that. I've seen a lot of people talk about how this is like like so terrible that sandy ended up like that, but I think it's fine to show that, like, she was so distraught and troubled by the sexism and misogyny and just like workplace harassment that she had that it kind of drove her insane and that she murdered a bunch of people that you know, deserve to be murdered. And well, well, were they? Did they deserve to be murdered because they were creepy, or were they doing? I mean, I didn't we watch the second half of the movie where they trying to rape her, because if so, I mean like what combination of all, I believe? Okay, me. I think what people don't like is that, like the old these men are like zombies. It's clearly okay, it's okay that these guys are creepy, ghosts, are like ghosts, zombies. Yeah, but then you find out that they got murdered and then it's kind of like uh Huh. I think the people some people have an issue with is that they go. Well, I mean I problem with that, because she doesn't like Thomas McKenzie, doesn't feel sympathy for them, like she doesn't help them, and also the old woman clearly isn't meant to be shown as a good person and she ends up burning alive. So it shows that the life of crime doesn't pay and also that, like these men like to some extent, got their come up. It's like they deserved what happened to them. A little bit, you know, yeah, a lot of it. I think if you sleep up with a prostitute, you don't or with the sex worker, you don't deserve to have like no, no, but if you if you try to assault one or, no, assert your power and an abusive way in the workplace or outside of the workplace, then then watch your fucking back because Sandy, yeah, send it's gonna pulling get you. She's going to burn your house down. I think the problem that I have is that it just happens so quickly. I mean the rist it's like a race to the finish line. I've so that certain could have been more effective if it was like played with a slower scene, but it happens so quickly. I think like the first hour is just like set up in information, but in and maybe an interesting way. No, I'm I'm scrubbing through. I mean they cut to the chase pretty fast. So I can only say the first thirty minutes is set up and then and then the middle hours kind of hard to define, and then the end, I think was a little but I think there are some scenes in the middle that could have been cut and dedicated towards putting more time into the end. Yeah, Oh, you know what I just remembered. What is is that Thompson Mackenzie's character. What's her name? JAKSTA? Is that her name? No, that's the roommate. It's Eli's or Ellie. Oh, okay, she like straight up almost murders her classmate who's like kind of a bitch, and the whole...

...movie were like, yeah, she's a bitch, but she almost murders her. And then the class me is like, what the fuck, you almost murdered me, and I'm like, like, you're a bitch, but like you were almost murdered by her, and I just thought that was a weird moment in the movie. Are you saying that we had to feel bad for well, I mean that we had to feel bad for the bitch character. She because she almost got murdered. I feel like the movie wants you to think that she's more of a bitch and like she does suck, but at the NY times she thought she almost had a scissor shoved into her eyeball and like I have some solutely for you there. I think there's is there any fallout from that, like do the cops come after her? No, at think that that's that's the weird part. It's just it's just fashion show. Yeah, well, know, at the end there's like a hole, you know, and that maybe that's enough for the fans at home. Parts just GER gun to me. Yeah, as I did a bull bully McGuire, as Thomas and Mackenzie did when she saw the mean girl at the fashion show. Yeah, part, you know, when you go to the mall and then you come home and your mom wants you to try in the close and she says fashion show, fashion show. That was like the end of the myth this movie. And you know what I hate? I hate the fashion show. I hate doing that for my mom and I didn't really like it here. I don't mind the idea behind it. I just think that the execution gets a little sloppy at them. Just because we're running out of time. I think I'm going to revisit this Edgar Wright movie less than I revisit other Edgar wreat movies. I agree. I kind of want to see him do something more in the vein of the cornetto trilogy or a Comic Book Type Thing where his visual language can, you know, be put to use, like Scott pilgrim or something, but him telling like original stories is always pretty awesome. Did yeah, it's like going to the movie theater and just seeing like two hours like genuinely surprising things that, like you didn't know we're going to happen and that aren't based on anything. It just this is like a forty three million dollar movie that looks better than most two hundred million dollar movies that have been coming out, and yet we still a lot of them, yet we still lost money. Yeah, well, but should I think, we get into the rating Scotlet? I think this ratings can't La has to unfold in the next three minutes if I'm making it to work on time. Guys, we got to do it. Okay, you go, all right, explosion sound effect. I'll give it. Let me get a watchable. Is it recovery? rewatchable in the way that I re watched it last night and I was like down with this, like did the interview long enough ago where the the details felt fresh. Recommend like a yes, and I'd be like sure, watch that you like it, but like it wouldn't be like you have to watch last night and Soho. Yeah, don't think it's on my movie of the year list or anything crazy like that. I'm going to give it like a six point five. I liked it and I'm not not in love. I think I liked it a little bit more than you. I would definitely recommend this just because it's I think it's an interesting concept and it's a fun watch. It's not too long and I think it's rewatchable and I'd give it somewhere like a seven to seven point five. I think. I applaud its originality. I think it's really cool. If the ending had been done up a little bit more, I think it would really have excelled. But as it is, I think it's a really technically well made, pretty fun movie, but not living up to the heights of what at great can accomplish. I just feel like the way like it divides with so many side characters that it's sort of like like it less is the impact of any...

...side character. Yeah, but I mean not to end too negatively. We like the movie. No, that was just a note that came to mind because we always stopped recording and I'm like, I don't like having something to watch my brain. I didn't say because if we're going to have this podcast, we might as well say the things we think. Yeah, but yeah, six point five, seven point five for average of seven, which is above average movie. Okay, all right, quick, quick outro. What comes next? What's coming next is we have two things that we might have come out next. So I'm going to actually not say what it is, but let's just say it could either be an Oscar winning related thing or it can be a definitely not Oscar winning related thing. I'm not even sure what I know. The definitely not Oscar related thing is wondering what they oh, yes, but go follow us on instagram and twitter. Make sure to give us a good review on apple, podcast and spotify. Is that it? Yep, goodbye. Thanks for listening. By Trent. Have a nice day make it to work.

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