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Episode 90 · 4 months ago

EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE (2022) Discussion with Brandon Lupetti

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Trent and Parth and Brandon find time to talk about the film, inbetween Temple Of Doom references. 

Edited by Trent Algayer

Good, ladies and gentle man, we are tonight's entertainment. Hold. I married one, two, three, hundred, two, three four, one, two three. Now was I Russian or was I drank? Guys? Were Sia ten Bonny? No'm come Fu giving. Get away from her, you bitch. What's in the fuck your box? Hold onto your butts. As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. So, part, what have you been eating? You're looking well, by the way, Trent, thank you for bringing us in. I slept at a semi decent time last night. What time is that? Like one o'clock am, but previous nights I've been sleeping at two to three am, and I wanted to sleep a little earlier because today I'm going out in the night and I wanted to be fully rested. Well, for for the fans at home, yester was part birthday and he turned twenty five years old. Thanks, and I wanted to see I wanted to set Trent up to tell people, the people, so that I didn't have to do it. Sound like an Asshole, yeah, but we went to the liquor store and the man had the audacity to not give part a free vodka shooter. It's pretty after, I said after he didn't id you, and so I drew attention to it by saying, ha ha, it's just twenty one birthday. And then we pause and chuckled and waited for him to offer you a free vodka shooter. That never came and the guy went, okay, I only say that's because of my twenty one birthday. I got a free vodka shooter from the same exact man. Yeah, but a friend of friend of the show, Jackson Clark, has also said that on his birthday the guy did not give him a free vodka shooter. So let's just say Trent versus part and Jackson. What's what's the different? Yeah, I don't know. Burn, burn any by this metric? You think you'd get a free vodka shooter? Wait, it was just your birthday too. He would. He would drink half of it giving it. HMM. We have a friend of the show on the show today, or a friend off the show who's just become a friend on the show, Brendon or I guess I was just going to say Brendan, but didn't you say something about wanting to remain an anonymous or is that out the window. Well, I wanted a cool name but like, like now, I couldn't think of anything in the show this morning. Yeah, no, thanks, Trent, or parts sucks, as it says on well, it's site. If you'll look at the screenshot on the INSTAGRAM. Our current names are parth sucks, parts is, Trent should use his hard drive and Brandon Yours is Jobu from is that from the film my art? I made it up. My original name is Raccatuni, but then I was harassed spelling it poorly. It's just not. Well, it's not just a spelt it poorly. It's not Raccatuny, it's rocket cony. And then he made it raccoon cony. Yeah, so, and then I made fun of that, and then you, you made you were upset. What? You went through a tunnel, Yo, right, he's well, no, no, no, first I had to leave the call. First he he was fine. And then, because before Trent was late to his own show. But like by how much? Like thirty minute? I like twenty, thirty minutes on no established time. With said for when the pot just no, I said, I said I can start in ten minutes, and then you said okay, and then didn't show up, but not it try. It's literally it's not a big deal. And when Trent wasn't here, I was talking with reded, the petty are current, a current friend of the show, and I was telling him how Trent doesn't use his hard drive. And then so when Trent, when Trent finally came on, I brought it up. Or try or brand and I were talking about it and it got brought up and then Trent was like, I'm going through a tunnel and he left. Well, I didn't join you as I was going through sunnel. Sorry, that's my bed. I was traveling. But he rejoined. His part sucks and I changed my name to Trent. Should use his hard drive, which he should. Guys harass them. But to answer your question, Trent, I I in the morning, woke up, forgot that we were recording and then was like, Oh wait, we were recording, and then went downstairs, up a handful of lucky charms, shove them down my throat and over here. Are you a big, dry, dry cereal guy? Yeah, I don't have it with milk. Never and you don't have any cereal with milk. We've had this conversation, but I don't know if we've had this conversation on air, but when I was like three, I I think I was sick, like regardless, but I had cereal with milk and then I threw up and ever since then I have had like a small like should I and so I've always had you never go back dry, but well,...

I've gone back. No, I've. I've had it like a few times and it's not like terrible or anything. I'm just that I've heard. I'm sure you've had a glass of milk on a separate occasion since you were the age of three. Well, I have. I've had milk every day in sewing lassity, like a glass of milk, but not with right, with cereal, not with my sees where you draw the line. As a kid, I would have a glass of milk with dinner every night and looking back, I'm like, Geez, toy bones are so strong. But Trent, what have you been eating? Well, I'll quickly say that what you have a cereal, I have with peas because when I was younger, my mom we're sitting at the dinner table and she was like you just need to get these peas in your system and I was like well, I don't want to eat them, and she was like then you should just like take them one at a time, like you take ib Profin, and you should just put one on your tongue and then kick it back with a glass of water. And so I did that like ten to fifteen times, and then my body disagreed with that as a way of consuming food and I threw up. And but it was good because after you throw up, no one can make you eat vegetables anymore. You can just go to bed. But what have I been eating? I just had a blueberry muffin from trader Jays. Wonderful. Yep, Brendan. Yeah, so we yeah, mean parth. We're talking about how should you are as a person. And then I was like wait, part, should I eat something? And he's like, Oh, yeah, so I had this on candy from Grour. I saw that in your car yesterday. Oh, you got it at the Brower, at a carnival the Boardwalk B Nanza, which is a fucking bust Brour car. Wait, wait, Frienis should I knockers? Of course you curs. We're brand brandon to the people were winning nintendo switches a brows. Dude. It was like Nintendo switches, xboxes and flat screen TV's, but that's in. It started it. It started for and we got there a five hundred forty and we saw the last dude when the last Nintendo switch and and the whole time he was clutching it to his chest and like he was like talking to girls with it. It was crazy. Oh, we got on our meal plane. Was King Neptune night. That you're much was NAD. Did you just read the alligator? That was the thing. I just there's not a thing. When really went though, there was fried alliator to I just remember going and seeing like on like the the the the conveyor belt, just like hundreds of lobster. Yeah, dude, they had lobsters. Every time they have like lobster biscough. The lobsters always like black. Did you know to like to pay to get into King Neptun night? Like I don't see like when the lobsters are black. Hey, it cost to meal swipes you and the King Neptune night. or You could pay and so much. It costs like forty, seventy five, holy fuck, which apparently is enough, which is somehow worse. WHO MEAL SWIPES? Anyway? Yeah, I had a few few things of n candidate. So con canty's the first thing you're putting in your body in the morning. I got an you last night. Wait, no, that's not try tater tots last night. So your body's running on fumes. Essentially, my body's running on carbs and sugar, which is, I mean, really all it needs to bro Do you feel good now you get my teeth look and are going to teeter over in the middle of the pod. We might die. Welcome back to craft services, where we talk about the movies each week. We talked about a film and hopefully have a remember of that phone talk with us about their experience working on the picture. This week we're talking about everything, everywhere, all at once. Last week, who did we have to talk about it? We had an interview with the cemhatographer, Larkinsiple, whose name we saw on the screen last night shortly after the conclusion of the film. This is true, but I was asleep during the fake out ending and but you don't see his name there. But I love movies with a fake out ending, don't you, especially at the sleep during the first time saw that. So last night when, oh, second time, yeah, I was like Oh but I knew. I was like, wait, movie, you just told me you didn't sleep the second time and I was gonna. Miraculously, as the fans should know, I made it through the film without falling asleep, even though it was a ten PM showing. Yeah, can we? Can we get a random a clause for Trent? I didn't waste another eight dollars with the student discount, I promise. But yeah, so last week we talked with Larkin sciple. This week we've got a new friend of the show, Brandon Lupetti, fellow rutgers student, would a trans contemporaries with us here. To start from, sorry for not being cool as cool as Larkin suple. Wait, fucking sciple, but thank you. I don't want to comment on your coolness. Compared to him, I'd say you know less about the film, like you didn't work on it, and just like in general. Yeah, and in general you're like he was really nice, like, not that you're not so great, but like he was. That's put you under pressure. He was really nice,...

...but the calls. I'm now I'm going to put you under pressure because let's just get straight into this. Brandon, can you give us a ten Word Synopsis Of this movie. Yes, yeah, but I like, I'll take away eight words and I'll just say really good. Wait, but like, no, but synopsis, like that's Oh, SONA, that's not not a summary, not a review. All Right, synopsis. Asian woman is awesome, beats up bad guys, everything everywhere. Wow, you're not wrong. Done. Thanks. Do you think this is come to be one of the episodes where to stand around me like I was really good movie? No, no, I really, I really like the movie especially. No, the whole movie is Great. I'm writing. I think this movie definitely warrants that, because, like, this is my this is a WHO's really good movie. Brendon, did quote cry during the movie? No, and then, no, not last night. I think you cry the first time. I was brought to tears for like forty five minutes, but I didn't shed any. It's awesome. Wait, you were. You brought to tears, as you you were clutching, but nothing came out. For so brought to tears means Probat what means? Yeah, I just Oh, no, no, I was like Tiri eyed, but I didn't. They didn't. They didn't fall down my face. I see. Well, the Real Synopsis is an aging Chinese immigrant, is swept up in an insane adventure where she alone can save the world by exploring other universes connecting with the lives she could have led. Trent, want to give US budget and box office? Sure, the budget was twenty five million dollars, and the box office, although it's still building because we were at a pretty crowded theater last night, is thirty two million dollars. This movie has had a really good word of mouth and has been like steadily increasing in revenue. Yeah, I thought that it wasn't going to do that. Like you know how the Northman is like flopping even though it's a good movie. Yeah, kind of like that. That's like the a twenty four stamp goes along way these days. Since true, should again into production history, we shall so. Co Directors Daniel Schinhart and Daniel quand stated that they began researching the concept of the multiverse in two thousand and ten after being exposed to this concept of modal realism in the one thousand nine hundred and eighty six film Sherman's March. Daniel Kohan described the release of spider man into the spider verse, which also featured the multiverse concept, as quote, a little upsetting because we were like, Oh shit, everyone's going to beat us to this thing we've been working on. He also stated that quote. Watching the second season of Rick and Morty was really painful. I was like they've done all these they've done I was like, they've done all the ideas we thought were original. It was real. It was a really frustrating experience, so I stopped watching Rick and morty while we were writing this project. funnily enough, I feel like so many multiverse movies have come out since they started working on the film to when the film actually came out. Yes, but also I don't feel like they were guilty of like any particular overlap. No, no, not at all. With it, with the MOLTI verse, you can go in any direction. It's hard. It is it is funny that in like a four year period that we've had spider man into the spider verse, Spider Man, no way home. Rick and Morty did their multiverse thing. I Guess Batman's are going to meet nothing. All the Batman's were eating in the flash and doctor strange into the multiverse of madness is coming out not too far after this movie. Is Come out anyway. How does one research the multiverse? You know they skut to cool things. You know that you just you just like make suit up and see the sticks. Because in early drafts, the director's plan for the main character to have undiagnosed adhd, and through research for the project, Daniel Quan himself learnt that he had adhd. The Universe in which Evelyn trains in martial arts and becomes an action movie star features scenes that were inspired by Hong Kong director won car why? Daniel quand stated that the idea of the everything Bagel, created by Joe Boutepacki, quote, started as a throwaway joke. During preproduction. Jackie Chan was originally considered for the starring role, as the script was originally written for him, before the Daniels change their minds and reconceived the film with having a lead role as a woman, saying that the husband wife Dynamic would make the story more relatable. It was announced in two thousand and eighteen that Michelle Yo and Aquafino were cast a star in a interdimensional action film from the Daniels, with Anthony and Joe Russo set to produce. AQUAFINA exited the project due to scheduling conflicts. In January two thousand and twenty, Stephanie Sue replaced her, along with the casting of James Hong Kihoi pawn and Jamie Lee Curtis. The film...

...mark the return of Keihui Kuan, who had returned from who had retired from acting in two thousand and two due to having few casting opportunities at the time. Filming began in January two thousand and twenty, and a hundred and twenty four acquired the distribution rights to the film. Principal photography wrapped up in early March two thousand and twenty due to the covid nineteen pandemic and thanks to Larkinciple, we know they did like three to four days of shooting during the pandemic just to get is that the rock stuff, the rock stuff, the cut universe with the noodles, and I believe they had one of the fight sequences. I think they got Michelle Yo back for but he said it was like a blessing and a curse to be like ninety five percent the way done, because then you're like, oh, we're happy that you're this far along, but also that last five percent would be really frustrating. Yeah, the film premiered at the South by Southwest Film Festival on March Eleven to two thousand and twenty two, had a limited release in theaters on March Twenty Five, two thousand and twenty two and had a nationwide release on April eighth in the US. By twenty four. Trent hit me with some fun facts. So they official. I MEYB synopsis used to read a woman tries to do her taxes and an effort to prevent spoilers, I kind of I like that. You know. Yeah, it's it's fun, it's cute and an intentional miss lead a red herring. Even on the day they shot the seam of the rocks, the weather was a hundred eighteen degrees. It was so hot director Daniel Shine heard shoes will mount the oh part. I almost brought this up, yeah, but now it's in the fun facts. There's a tumble of doom reference for a keyboy. One yells at Evelyn to snap out of it. This scene plays out exactly the same in Indiana. Jones the Temple of doom were India's under the spell by MOLARM. There's also another one that I during a montage. You hear him go very funny and I thought that's what Temple of doom. It's easily my favorite of the Indiana, Indiana Jones films. You know, it's Foker, shorty, anything can happened. Where did you find your a little bodyguard? I didn't find him. I caughto what Shurey's family were killed in the Japanese bomb Shanghai's been living on the street since he was four. I caught him trying to pick my pocket, didn't. I short stuff, just troubles. He's Y UG mistake. I look this. You choose me. If cheating, I make you part this calling out the the pretty on the nose racism in the film. But short round, shot round is awesome. So that has nothing. Are you going to play some short round clips of where you think? You think we would do an episode and I have short round clips. Okay, we've kind of face. Play a clip here. Yeah, there's something on the grounds. It's not fortune cookies. Very funny. Play clip here and a wake up. Yeah, we've kind of phased out of our joker clips all the time. Yeah, I feel like I don't do the impression of what's gone into US I don't know, I'm not. Do I look like a guy with a plan? Yeah, no, that ain't. That the truth. All right, this is off topic, but we'll do one star reviews right after this. But it's going to be ten years of the Dark Knight rises in July at ten years of Baine. I'm in charge. You feel enough chitter chatter, you guys. We have one star reviews to get through. Brandon's like, yeah, you have. Oh yeah, no, thanks for being real, just too I'm sorry. I'm sorry, no water on the show. I should just choose anyone. So yours shoes, whichever one you want. Oh,...

...okay, never mind. Wait, like I kind of don't want the first one's kind of worth than pick another one. I think I want to start with the last one, because this one is the most intriguing. Okay, says by Gretchen, gave it a WHO's verified on whatever this is said. The acting was really good, the plot was terrible and some of the scenes were very disturbing. One Star. What are the disturbing scenes? Like? I can only think. I guess, like the hot dog hands seeing. Yeah, yeah, because, like it is a little gross. But Oh, maybe the part where Evelyn like explodes in the baby outfit, like the beginning when Joe Wutpacky is like ever sing. I walk away from a movie and I'm like the acting was great, but the movie was one star. I think those are kind of like tied. I feel like if the movie was so bad with the acting is great, I'd give it two stars. Yeah, one star is pretty significant. Like one star has to be like it was like a genuine affront to human if you're saying this main element is great, I don't know. Yeah, I can understand though, because like maybe, like maybe some people can appreciate the acting and nothing else. But like, if you're going to appreciate, if you can have, if you have the capacity to like appreciate the acting, like you could also probably appreciate the editing and maybe like the color and not. But I just think, I think like to say the plot was terrible. It's just a kind of confess that you're a little exactly what go going off of that. Not to rip on the normies of New Brunswick, but Brandon, as you witness, we walked out of wed the theater yesterday and there was a massive people and he's like, I don't even know. Yeah, we were walking past the bathroom and these these people were going to the bathroom, like we're just over here. Like that was so confusing, like I don't know what it's like, Dude. Yeah, they were like confusing movie. A lot going on, like you don't know, like you don't get the general likes over the two and a half hours. Yeah, the theater was erupting the whole time, like like they were. It was crappy. I'm like, dog, these are the wrong parts to laugh for the hard act. It was just like not not to mention another movie, but that won't me and on my roommates were watching the Batman in the same cinema and people were laughing the entire time at just like I like like fights. Yeah, it's like, dude, what are you doing? Like it's not funny. Kind of makes me me pissed, right. Ye, should I and I go next. Youpier than us? Yeah, you go next. So I'll do the one that brandon skipped over because I think it's interesting. So this is from Mike J and it says Sonic, I love, love it, so cool and moon is beautiful. Does he mean movie or it's a little full mood I you said the moon, Dude. I mean he wrote moon and I wouldn't want to interpret. Is this guys talking about sonic one or the new, newly freshly released sonic too? And like Sonic, I'm just talk about he's talk. He's talking about the restaurant. Oh wait, that's true. Are they the ones with the blizzard or whatever? No, that's did we that's Day Quinn, I worked at drekly for like three years. Be Branded. Did Rat? Those blizzards are way every every day. Fresh Youd Toma gave your Goddamn. But wait bout I will say. I will say never fell out. Once I was like professional, does that happen? And you have to give them a free one? Well, because, obviously, because it fell in the floor, people ask you to flip it in hopes that it falls out, because dairy queen policy is that if it falls out, you get like free ones for like a week or something. And our boss was such like a stickler that he would. He had a big sign that said under, he had a poster that said that, and the under, he wrote in big letters, does not apply at this location. Wow, he d then said just take down the sign, like why even offer up the policy if you have a sign that says no walking and then you and then you write on it you can walk here. Just take down the Sun. I mean here now. He wants to instill he wants people to come and hopes that happens and then read the fine the fine print. I see. Yeah, so I'll read the final review here. That from an unnamed person and it says one star. Terrible walk that after an hour. No idea why it has good ratings. I can only imagine that that person comes from an Amish family. The stay siste like overwhelmings, like what is happening for what I just found out about the Macintosh computer. There's a lot of shit. The Apple to mocking caw. Can we just make this a Steve Job Spot? Yeah, wait, part can ste we wait, might play Steve Jobs clips. Wait, let's just play a clip from our interview with the Cinematar for Alan Cooper. Here's Allen talking about his stylistic preferences. All love,...

...the word was really told, warded them souls, postible world, our thin would you spend the week and full reads? Awesome, you trades imge every boodys before the actors part. Remember the time. This is kind of like the multiverse of craft services, like craft services was coming. Wow, craft services into the crafty verse. Yeah, cart remember when I called you from a remote location to ask you about jobs versus Steve Jobs, because five dollars for at stake. Yeah, I do remember this and you were right. For the fans at home, when we were filming someone senior thesis where out in the woods where there was no internet and there was only one landline, and so we couldn't look it up. But this one of the actresses was like, Oh, jobs is the one with Michael Fastbender, right, and Steve Jobs is the one with Ashton coucher, and I said no, I'm positive, and she said no, I'm positive, and so we got five dollars and then we had to call part from the land line and he told me did did she try to hurt the she and something else happened in the woods. All. I think you're referencing a different woods. Yeah, yeah, I don't know what they're talking about. So I'm kind of left out of the loop like the audience. You, cause you can. You can explain, sure, like I can explain, but I'll have to edit it out. But I can put a bleep, like I'll put a bully. You over do a long but this want long sleep. I think get but make sure you get parts rapparth on George's set, as you may know what you were there, but I guess I did discreetly. Yeah, I wait, is this is this where you had to this is where I had to Boop, and so I had to take a draft of the script and I use what the no, I know about this. I use the title page and four I was there. You, pages after, after you did the deed, you came out to me and you went buck. I just went my ass this script because if I was if I had to do it on set, like I had to put a positive spin on it. But like what would like, you guys were like making fun of me, as if I had another option. I mean like you could just hold it broom. It was the beginning of the day. I had to, so Jackson and I had to. Actually, we're discussing it anyways. Let's get back to the episode, all right. So I just will bleep all that out. Wow, the the audience at home really is just like on a wild ride today, aren't they? I'll up try that. I think you shouldn't give the audience something want then, yeah, toots, or the discussion of the episode of the day? Should we talk about our thoughts on the movie? I'd say now would be the time. So, Brandon, Brandon, you're our guests. Oh wait, no, try we break we break it up into what's working and what's not working. and which section would you like to start with? Well, let me finish chewing this crust. Wait. Yeah, I feel like the reception has been very positive. So I say you. You added this to your letterbox top for as you left the theater. I mean, so I say you speak on this before either of US intervene. Um about what's working or what's not right, I think either, whatever you want. One okay, I think. I think this is like, in my opinion, there's so much, there's so little that doesn't work that it's like negligible. Like last night I was looking out for things that don't work. The only time I was like was one insert when Evelyn, when Joe Batpaki, is like first encountering Evelyn, after she comes out and she's doing all the wardrobe changes. There's one inswert of Evelyn, like getting out of the handcuffs. That lasts maybe like twenty frames. And that was the only thing. I was like. I think everything else in this movie, I think like all the holes are closed regarding the multiversal like kind of science. I think like every technical aspect hits so hard, like I just think it all works. So So, if I've got this rate, the thing, the one thing that doesn't work is twenty frames of this movie. Maybe like and maybe like fifteen minutes. Maybe it's fifteen minutes to wait. Are you joking? Because I said that in the car on the way home. Did you say fifteen? I say fifteen. Okay, because, okay, so full this glow. Ran Into Petty. Okay, brand the petty and I were talking and he said Trent thought that the movie was fifteen minutes too long. That I think that I've zero. That's movie said ninety minutes long. That's I said fifteen. So that's why I received such a response. So, okay, you were like Poles. Yeah, I agree. I think like fifty, but like also like I disagree, because I'd be like if I watch sonic to I was like, Yo, we don't need the second or Third Act. Well, it would be like if you saw sonic...

...to and said Sonic, I love, love, it so cool and moon is beautiful. I think it'd be like if I saw everything everywhere all at once and I said Sonic, I love, love it, it's so cool and moon so beautiful. One Star. Knows, I think he gave it a half a star. Yeah, Oh shit, yea, even A. I don't know what service wrong, but this has half stars. But Gretchen, wait, okay, we have to give Gret let her. We congratula verified reviewers from credit, because she gave it a full star because the acting was quote really good. Yeah, that's fair. I think like my favorite aspect about the film. I think like yeah, I was thinking about this last night as I was in bed trying to right their nest, just kind of bad. I was like that out. I was thinking about why this film like why it why touches me the way it does, and I remember as a kid I used to think about like I would just have these like day dreams, and I remember being a gym class and like third grade, yeah, and I'd be like kicking a ball against a wall and I'd be thinking about, like what if the ball hit an Adam in a certain way or like I'd be thinking about when I was falling asleep, when I was like eleven, and I just be thinking about, like what if, like the the like my sheets were contorted in a certain way to like create life or something, and it seems like total absurdities that that are completely illogical and make no sense that this movie takes and like not only runs with but like they make them work into a beautiful story, and I just think, I think it's like such a magnificent like it's like fucking art in the way that it just like hits home to me subjectively and like every and every fucking way. Yeah, Jordan sick of this got up out of her chair and she said that's the most creative movie I've seen and she's, she said, all your whole year, as if a more creative movie came out last year. Yeah, way. WHO's Jordan sick of us? Right, friend off the show, who friends very good friend, who show cush show, come on for the once upon a tom in Hollywood episode, but no need to mention her until then. Okay, waiting, that's my bad. That's my but she's here to talk about cliff and cliff only cliff boot. Oh you're going s trouble boom man right now by I was smoothly when Ye had number two shot. fucking Prick Trent. What are your thoughts on the film? So this was my first time seeing the second acts, or I guess part two, everywhere, and let me just say it tied up a lot of loose, loose ends, or it set up a good amount of runway for me to understand the third act, which prior I saw without context. And so it went straight from regular taxes launchry movie into the the inklings of of something supernatural. And then I was asleep and then and then I woke up and the movie was too far gone. But I really enjoyed it, like I was fighting sleep again, which was unfair, but it was so engaging and we had to do the pod today that I was sucked in and also my main things are short round as an adult actor awesome. Jamie Lee Curtis Awesome, fight sequences awesome, all the weird alternate world's, rock world, raccoon world, hot dog world, awesome. Fifty minutes too long, though. Yeah, I would say that while watching the movie, we were watching it with friend of the show Jackson Clark, and friend of the show, Sophia Alexis, and I turned to sophia and I was midway through the movie and I was like, I'm not sure I get this movie, really, not, not, not, not well, not like in a plot, like I understood the multiverse stuff. That never bothered me, but I was kind of like, I'm not sure I know where this is going and I'm not...

...sure that I like I'm tracking a character progression, because I was like Michelle Yo's character is very unlikable. I mean like she's engaging and she's entertaining to watch because it's Michelle Yo and Michelle Yo was awesome. But like I was like, I don't, I'm not sure I know where this is going. But the Third Act, I think is prob is my absolute favorite thing I've seen all year so far, the third the third act is then all at once like the the last twenty minutes or so. I'm not sure, like I saw this movie at this point almost a month ago. So like, I don't, I don't like remember exactly if it's like literally part three, but I think everything from when around the time of the we I spoke about it in our interview. But like the one car why sequence where he goes. The the way I fight is by being nice and you think, just being stupid. So everything that was the like where, I would say like ten minutes before that. From then on, I think that movie it all. It all clicked in. So I'd be interested to see to see myself watch it again, because I think one of the things that this movie does that few other movies do is have a point of view on life and on they do it a little bit in Swiss armament, but just being grateful for the time that we have and that, you know, for the people that we have, and that our differences should not stop us from appreciating life, and I think that that I really agree with that mentality and I really agree with that point of view of the world and seeing. You know, my favorite movie is Spider Man Too, and that movie is all about a guy trying to do some good and everything in the world sucks for him, but he still pushes on to do that good and I like movies that show that just being good, just being nice in and of itself, is a really difficult and tough thing to be in this world, and I think this movie really beautifully illustrates that and having Kihui Kuan, who is in you know, he's obviously short round and in the Gooney so it's cool to have them back, but having him in the movie and for him to be so fucking good and tend to tender, you know, like he he's able to play the like Aloof like Dad, like Oh, I don't know what's going on, and then he can also play like movie star, like just like that same, same fucking be exactly with them. And he's not that visually day. He's just wearing a suit and he just like he just like holds himself differently, talks differently. Oh, and he he's so good and I think that he, once he's delivers that. The way I fight is by being nice. Everything clicks into motion and everything makes sense and then suddenly it's a fight against nihilism, and that's what the movie is and I really appreciate any movie that does that. I get introspective during all movies, even if I'm just like stoned watching fast and furious nine. But so you can only imagine the amount of thought is wayte Bro. You can only imagine the amount of existential thought that went through my head last night. I was like I'm going to make some changes. Yeah, yeah, but try. And you reminded me of of a nut that I do have with this lazy the title cards when they do come up and says everything part one. The order of the supers goes everything and then part one comes up. I think part one should come up first and then everything come my I don't this isn't a complaint, but this is just an observation that you may have seen last night when there was the third title card, I think people thought that there was thirty three percent of the movie remaining and there was a collective sigh over the whole room. I think the other were like what, like, yeah, everyone kind of. Do you think anyone was silly and enough to be fooled by the fake title Card or was it early enough to be full? Know, I felt like it was. So I saw it like it like. Last night was my third time seeing it and my second and third time I was with like different people and it was also crowded theaters. And every time the false signing comes up, I'll just like roll up my sleeves and like pretends to be packing up and I see like people next, like the girl next me. This time was like what? What? And then the and then it seemed out, and then and then the movies, and I mean Ryan, my roommate, he knew. He was like when the false tile came up the second time I watched it, he whispered. He was like, Dude, dude, during the there in the fake theater, Bro like you totally called it. So why? I was just going to say I think this movie also does a lot for people with interesting relationships with their parents, you know, and yeah, a lot of people with mommy. But these are going to have have a have a good time with this movie. You know what...

I mean? Well, that's like one of the things when you were saying Michelle Yos has such like an unlike an unlikable character. Like, for for audio listeners who can't see me, I'm a little Asian and yeah, show me. Mommy is like Korean and although this movie it's characters are Chinese, I just like in Michelle Yo Yo's character and Evelyn Quan, there's this like stubbornness and this kind of like it's not even ambivalence, but I wouldn't describe it as apathy either. There's just like a her character has a wall built between her and like the outside, I guess, society, and like this. So the the the part of the movie that like one of my favorite parts is when Avalon quand is describing racket couney and she said, and she's like makes food that does that, and she's like doing the pantomimes and everything could because like not only is her verbal language kind of a it's a little like handicapped to to be able to like properly describe exactly what the plot of Ratatoo is, but also when she says racket couney and then joy says, do you mean Ratatui, and she says no, racket Cooney. Like that stubbornness is something that I experience like every fucking day, and I also love this woman also give I mean, my mom's not conservative, but like the scene in which she's explaining this is her friend and this is why she you, you're why she thinks she's okay. Yeah, and I love what you were saying about the wall. One of the things that I really love about her performance is that you can tell that, you can kind of the movie does a good job of showing kind of the cycle of the why, the reasoning with why people behave the way they do and how that gets passed down, and I think she does in the writing end, in the formers. This is a really like subtlety and knowing that she does love her kid and that, oh yeah, but she thinks the best way to show it is by being a stump as she can and exact and that. And that's in the first in the first act, where she's like joy, let me talk to you, you have to eat healthy, gets tax. It's like, and I love that seat, and I love I mean the first time that she is able to see her life and like all the things that have happened in her all the choices that led up to her life. I remember sitting there and being like I that could have been a short film. That was like that in and of itself was so beautiful, and especially this. So you know, go ahead, go ahead, the part where, in the flashback Waymond and her are opening the laundromat. No, no, they're moving into their house, and then he says you don't look happy, and then she says I'm happy. Like yeah, she's not happy. Yeah, because, like, because there is that, there's that, all these machines or that. Yeah, my gosh, that that expectation of like, like, like you, you grow up and you have like a very narrow life path that you think you have to follow, like you got to be successful, you have to be smart and you have to like, I don't know, be someone like a fucking capitalist or something, and then when those things fail, like yeah, you have to put up the facade to like to the people you love, the people that are in your life, but at the end of the day, like you are not satisfied. Yeah, and that was like just like in a like such like a deep cut portray wow, this is whyg are you with us? I am paying attention now. You may only see a pile of for season bessiest story. I can see where this story is going. It does not well. But I was going to say is I love the I mean I've I've brought it up a lot of like the point of view of the movie, but I love the sequence where Ku Quan's character says, in another life I would have loved just doing taxes with you. HMM, taxes and loan and a landromat and, Oh yeah, doing laundry and doing taxes with you. And and I think that six other than being other than being a cool concept with the multiverse presents in this movie. Is that sure? You may have had these other crazy alternative life paths and it could have the grass. He's always exciting. Yeah, it's it could have been something. It could have been an amazing vocalist, you could have been an amazing martial artist. You could have done all these things. But at the end of the end of the day, why not just appreciate what you do have and see that what you do have is something beautiful in its own right? You know what I mean? And I think that the few movies that utilize the concept of the multiverse ever use it in a way, a that illustrates something thematic, that it's kind of generally just like...

...a plot or just a cool thing to start off an action sequence or something, and I like a lot of the multiverse movies, but I think what this movie does is it it bakes it into the point of Michelle Yoe's character arc, which I appreciate. So we walked out of the theater and this could be another installment of trends confused. Part explains, but brandon, Brandon said something. Oh it might be trans trends confused and Brandon explains it might be. But Brandon said something that I was not expecting and he said the whole movie was this, and I was like you're joking, right, and he was like Nope, and should I explain? Sure are do know you explain? Yeah, going right on. was basically like this whole movie is about Joy's suicide and I was like what. Well, like, let me expart. Are you also like, I feel like I know what he's going to say, but I want to hear him say? I thought it was about family. I mean, yeah, not. The theme's huge. There are cars, which is the the whole movie is. Yeah, I mean I think the biggest theme is not only family, but like what a family means when you can express like colloquially understood family love and like that's what happens when you're an Asian American families, that you have these different cultures and these different like these different reactions to too loved ones. That maybe isn't the American standard of Like I love you so much and I'll say, I'll tell you I love you every time I see you and like I'll be I'll be extremely supportive of whatever you do, like some sometimes it's like, yeah, I love you, but because I love you, you're going to be fucking great and you're going to be you're going to do you're going to go through life this way and because I made you. And there's that sense of like sometimes there isn't love, which I guess could be described as tough love. But I think that yet like the the suicide thing Joebu to pack and enjoy explicitly states that the Bagel was made to see if she can die, because she was pushed so far by Evelyn to become like the greatest first jumper that her brain, her brain became fried and became she came like this omniscians. She made the Bagel, which she states in the film, to see if she can die and she wants Evelyn to come with her. But when Evelyn doesn't come with her, joy the whole fight scene where we're Evelyn fights like Raymond does and like just fixes these people's lives. Joy is actively trying to kill herself in the Bagel and I just think metaphorically, it's speaking on like that's just like I'm glad you brought up Metah. Maybe it's because I was going to say that I I thought the same thing as you, but when trend said this is about joy suicide, I didn't know if you're going to do like one of the Youtube like this is what actually happened. She was actually trying to kill herself. But like no, no, no, I think that this is about, yeah, a daughter that's been maybe pushed too far and hasn't felt the love of her mother, and that that's, yeah, I think, very dark place and exactly I think. I think from that point. Yeah, mental health in this movie, I think, is a huge aspect and I would go as far to say that like Evelyn's mental like comparisons could be taught, could be made between Evelyn's like multi multiversal experience and trying to get the people around her to understand why she's acting like this, like she's telling at one point in the right irs, she has the whole spiel with with wayman saying like that wasn't you in the elevator, and the whole point of that is to confuse non Alpha Raymond or Waymond and the and it makes Evelyn look crazy, and I think that could be tied with, like, you know, just like mental health issues in Asian communities and and really any like minority group communities where, let's say, like bipolar disorder or like schizophrenia, like getting the people like like like you have an established like matriarchal figure in your community and this person kind of with age like get, becomes gets one of these like disorders, the understood threshold for like understanding is going to be significantly lower because there's just like maybe there's like a lack of comprehension and in terms of like considering health ver versus like, Oh, this is your fault for letting this happen. If you kind of understand what I'm saying, I think like this movie is so much fun and it's concepts are like very absurd, but it could still be traite. They can still be understood as like grand metaphors if you want them to be, and that, like I think, like the schizophreny of things like a very far reach, but I just like that the movie allows itself to be taken or interpreted. You could totally interpret this in this way if you want to. Yeah, and I like really respect I agree that about the movie. Yeah, I've...

...been talking about all the stuff that I like. I'll get into like the few things that I think the the the few complaints that I have are really just in the middle. I think that while I I really do appreciate the silliness, and I think a lot of people complain about the silliness in the movie and say like, Oh well, this would have been better if it was maybe cut out, I don't I think that the silliness is part of it and it's about we need to take the silliness out of movies. Fuck that. The movies about embracing all of life, the good, the bad, the real, the the the you know, the the important and the not so serious, and so I like that. But I think sometimes, in their efforts to be funny or you know whatever, sometimes a joke goes on too long. And don't even like have a problem with the joke itself, but I think sometimes if you were to cut out or just cut down a little bit on some of the things in the middle, then the movie wouldn't feel too long, because I honestly think that first third I love and that middle, that last third, I think again. I saw the fucking Batman this year and this is the best thing I've seen. The last third of everything everywhere all at once. The middle is where I think things get a little bit muddled in terms of combining the thematic stuff they want to do with the plot stuff that they're doing, and it gets a little like, not confused, but convoluted. Maybe it's just like a lot of things are happening and I'm not entirely sure that they need to all happen. Can you give like a reference, like it's not like went for you? When does the middle beginning at? Like, is it just like point went, part two comes up until part now? I mean, I don't I don't think it's when the title cards come up, because I never really viewed those as like like, I mean using those it's an even like a good breakdown of the movie, you know acts, because the third one is like all the way at the end of the movie. Isn't right? Twenty minutes fifteen. So I would say that maybe it's when after the deer dreff fright in the in the office building, the one where she's like trying to get the martial arts skills, that point until the point, like ten minutes before the the scene with where he's like the way I fight. Is that, like it's not that I dislike that section. I just think again, I've only seen this movie one time time, so I think maybe a rewatch would make me get it more and I'd feel less like I didn't feel the direction of the movie. But that section was where I felt okay, like what are we doing here, like what is this? I think something I liked about the movie, like and is sort of illustrated by like when the multiverse things at first starting to happen and he hands her the paper and has like the instructions on it and then on the flip side is the divorce, and I was like this movie is doing two things at once and I was like and it's like it's like rope. It's like the audience know something they don't know, and then the comedy comes from the yeah, dramatic irony, but I think some multiverse movies could just like go too deep down the rabbit hole and then you're just in like wonderland the whole time, and I think it's like good to have the IRS and that keep coming back to real life and to keep them back to divorce and to like your everyday problems as a comparison to these bigger issues, because I just think I would have gotten over simulated and tired. Trent Jackson, I brought this up, which is that we thought, we were like a little surprised, that they never leave the IRS building and and we were like we really thought, we really thought, like it was going to be like a huge like thing, and I really appreciate how folk I mean, it's really just and to turn the IRS building into the other universes. Yeah, exactly, that's a great I never, I never thought of it. Yeah, I guess they don't ever really leave while they're in like the this main branch. Yeah, yeah, wow, the guys. I'm going to dip CON canny into mustard real quick. Are you serious? This is horror. I just this is this is staying in the edit, though. Dude, Oh, it's just like a pickle. Dude, seriously, no, wow, wow. Anyway, wait, try what you were saying with that the sheet on two sides again. I was thinking about this well before I was going to sleep. This movie captured, like her captures the sense of like duplicity so well, and I think there's two parts for your do plecty. Hmm, I think you can. Duality is a duplicity. I think ty. Wait, yeah, wait, what I thought duplicity is like toothing. What it is. What did I could do? PLICITY is just wow. So snap synopsis and Duplicity Are Two things. I don't know what anyway. Yeah, do all day, I guess. I thought...

...plus a right whatever, most like duplicause to seeing from yeah, there's two outstanding moments of duality. The one where, yeah, the flip side of the paper and on each side people sitting, separate things, and I think all around where part three comes up. No, no, like twenty to twenty five minutes before, when Evelyn is having the like the false low moment and she stabs waymand with a piece of glass, which kind of did come out of like fucking nowhere. She stabs m with a piece of glass in one of your universe and right after, or right before maybe in another universe, she signs the divorce papers. And it's putting these two moments together and say like these are these are the same thing, like it's the same feeling, I thought. I just like it's like wow, fuck. Yeah, guys, I think we've talked about this movie a lot. Is a time to enter the ratings gauntlet. Are there any little last thoughts? We want to get out. I was Oh, but Stephanie, Stephanie Sue, her performance is like I think it's on level with keys. Oh, I was going to say I'm so fucking glad aquaphina was not in this movie. What, Dude, I'd like when you were reading, she would audits you, joy, you the daughter joke, Bro like when's like Stephanie Sue replacing her, like I think you need. I mean, I don't know if she's like someone said she was in crazy Roch Asians, but I think like not recognizing a lot of the faces is like a good thing. HMM. Also, just like the security guards and all the five Rosina would have like pushed it too far. I mean, I like Aquafina. The farewell is a good money it's a great movie. Actually. Yeah, Aquafina like like Shang Che or whatever. It was just really my only experienced ACAPHUNA, like yeah, whatever, but like Sevnya Soueck, it just like this and doct the comedy came out in a very like organic way, and I think Aquafina you would have been like instructed when to laugh. Are you spear speaking to Aquafina? AQUAPHINE's listening up. Okay, so I had. I mean, this isn't fair, because this isn't our show, but like I haven't eye of the dock for for this movie. WHOA, wait, okay, you're gonna have to get sold the master. But Lask Adam about this exactly like the like the first rock scene, like the like the theater was rendered speechless and they had our complete attention. And I was like, they're just saying everything that they meet and right on screen with these rocks and will rock. Right, that life is stupid and that were small. Just be a rock. But what? Right? When that scene came on, Jordan whispered to me, I get why you like this movie, and it was like five seconds before that rock scene came on, and then I didn't respond to her. I think she's she thought I was being mean. No, but like, like how simple, like googly eyes on a rock are as like a narrative device so good, like they don't even need to move. INS like shot, reverse shot on rocks, Ted like Tet, like text on screen with rocks. Yep, dude, it my first viewing would also, my bet, the best one, just because it's the first time. The only sound, like when that rocks and came on to you. Just all you heard was like the fan in the theater, or maybe like the projector hume, and like our fucking heartbeats. And it was gray. It was insane, Dude. So good. All Right, is it time? Yeah, part were watching this time. I was like wow, if I'd seen the entirety of the movie, I would have had someone. So any more questions for Larkinciple, I know, like there's so many crazy shots in this movie. There even even just like Rackettun he's flying through the WHO, Racka, who, the word could raccoon Ratatoui is flying through the air. I was like how they do that? Wait, it's not hard to pronounce raccoon. Okay's a change of one consonant. Turn my raccoon right it to we all right, Brandon, you just dipped your common candy and mustard. So I think you're no position to criticize other people's lives. There's like pickles through each other. You want to get the ratings gauntlet? Yeah, sure, like what it's rating Gauntland? For me it was say, well, there's the first thing I have to do. How? Oh, well, wait, should we drop the bomb? All right, so, Brandon, when we say the word Gauntlet, like a nuclear bomb, sound effects starts to go off and then, I'd say, about ten, fifteen seconds from now, why it's gonna hit and we have to scream. Oh No, I could feel that. It's random. Rand rainy's gauntlet is. You have to say how we watchable this movie is. Would you recommend it? And what you're rating out of ten would be the bomb killed us an hour and podcasting heaven.

So do you want me to do? You want me to shoot? Shoot? Had rewatchability, considering this is my third time watching it, like a month, I'd say like extremely high, too, very high, extremely way down. You're very high. Okay, yeah, it was the second one. Right, recommend. Oh, recommend like I'LD I reckon. I want to. I would recommend this. I feel like it's like Donald Trump watched this. The subtitles for some some problems, some for Oh, that's right, that's right, but everyone's but right. RECOMM I would recommend this. TAME, watch this. I want to watch my mom lade about. I want my mom to watch it separate for me so we don't have to have a really intense conversation on the on the back and my rating out of ten, like nine point nine repeating. It's pretty close to ten asymptotic. And you also say ten, if that's what you mean. Well, technically, mathematically, nine point nine repeating is ten. So yeah, it's real courth. Wait, but I just want to say I forgot to mention this earlier the scene. Actually, I'll save it till after the rating gout. And now this is your last real opportunity speak lassage. Just say it, all right, all right. Well, there's a scene some time around the end at the party in the LAUNDROMAT, I think, while Joe Betpaki is like giving that shouldeel about how nothing matters and that they should both dine in the Bagel. And there's one just like B roll shot of that that old man who's whose wife use that perfume in the beginning. There's a shot of like Evelyn is grabbing cookies from the table and the man comes from behind her to grab cookies in a way that would like he's like making so that he's leaning up against Evelyn and like grinding up on her, like in a very creepy way, because he's an old, creepy white dude with an Asian fetish and like that scene is so specific and like incredible, like it's just such a fucking crazy cut that they made, because I've seen, like my mom's a nurse and I remember when I was like twelve or something, I'm in the set. Like sounds pretty fucking early, but I remember like being twelve and I accompanying her to a nursing home and she was like this like Asian woman, female nurse, and these old dudes would like this old this one old guy would just like bump into her from behind and I remember being really younger. My Mom's like super naive and like very kind and she's like Oh, are you okay? And he's like like, you're just like an old fucking dude, and it's like Bro like wow, like this is something that happens and it's like in the movie, fucking perfectly done. It was like like no, you would catch it, unless you understand, like this is why. Well, maybe, I mean like you probably would catch it, but like no, I mean I didn't catch it. One I wonderful, wonderful, wonderfully done. Yeah, right, isn't it crazy? Life is crazy. Powers of not being what that guy, that that US. Yeah, that would like exactly that. That old guy in the nursing homes probably dead by now. So we nothing matters, guys. Just be a rock. Wait, that is that is what the point of the movie. So I'm glad you brought that, dren. Do you want to give your sure? Is that like the inverse takeaway of the movie? Yeah, that would be that would be a few like read the movie completely incorrectly. I guess that would be what that everything matters, nothing matters, and the I mean that's what they say, but like, well, like like everything mattering and nothing mattering, or like kind of the same thing. Yeah, okay, Syndrome. Exactly right. I was just gonna say if everyone's super then no one is. He said that like the joker. Guys, I went through this whole back of pop for conquet. Your Body. I'd hate to be occupying it. I'll say rewatchability. Yes, recommend yes, in at a ten, like a point, a point, like at five, if that, if that makes everyone happy. Wow, Trent and I are looking like brothers in blood right now more than ever. I'd say. I would recommend this to anyone and everyone, everywhere, all the once, all the time. Right now. I've not yet we watched this movie, but I really want to. So take from that what you will, and I would currently give this an eight point five, but I can see this jumping up a whole one, like I can see this going up to a nine point five. But that's the cauld I ask you as a final question, question like do you guys what like? Can You name one movie that you prefer to this Spartan to experiments of the Matrix will be your trump? Well, well,...

I can't believe we didn't talk about the Matrix during this movie, because like Matrix and Scott pilgrim are like huge, huge influences. Am I crazy? I think Matrix is more over, but Scott Pilgrim, I definitely thought of it. I don't know that they were thinking of Scott like maybe Scott Pilgrim did the mortal kombat style and then this took the mortal Kombat style and then so now I'm just thinking about Scott Pilgrim in the middle of those. Well, no, I mean I think it's I think it's similar also in the way that aspect ratio changes and and also, like those are also movie that takes place in the real world. For like the first act and then big jump. Yeah, you know, I I got you're come from, but maybe a trend in a movie like like more than most. I could name four movies my life that God got. David fincher's seven s deaf interest, seven Rob Riners, stand by me, fast times, Richmond High and drastic park are my current letterbox top four and sadly it'll stay that way. Still a good movie that you should watch. Yeah, I mean drastic park is drastic park. I mean it's wait, dress barks kind of like like that would never happen. So venture's five grain. You. Thanks making thanks for taking the time out of your day to listen. Where an apple podcast. We're on spotify. Go give us a good rating, go follow us on instagram and twitter. Thanks to brand new petty for coming on to this episode. Yo, drastic world, Falling Dominion Out June tenth, it's true. Yeah, that's the takeaway. Jurassic world, Fallen Dominion coming at theater. Are you sure, Jude, don't June tenth. Yeah, what are we gonna do in that movie? Is A multiverse movie anyway. You mean Trall, a dinosaur in it is like the is like a joker. So that Brenda that the dinosaurs like escribe. Yeah, but I'll director, not someone. The director said that dinosaur, the is like a joker, like wait, should he just wants to see the world burn. Hey's hunting for spot. He's not even aging them. Shoot Hu. All right, now, I got these cars excited for the t rex to just be like. So, find us. WHAT'S DOMINION? So find us. One spotify podcast. Right, five star review. Let's move. This podcast is like a fucking mess. Right now. Um Rate and review our show. How a friend doesn't. Yeah, fuck, yeah, fuck you, Trent. What do we have going on next week? We have our interview with Bruce Curtis, the option designer of Apollo, ten and a half and a whole lot of Richard Link later movie. Wait, wait, Bruce, Bruce Curt person, we got the production of production designer of politan and a bunch of other Richard Link later movies. What so good? Join US there by, guys, by.

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