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Episode 45 · 1 year ago

BEFORE SUNRISE (1995) Discussion with Addison Loveland

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Trent and Parth, without enough money for a hotel room, feel a connection and want to keep talking, so they get off the train and walk around Vienna.  

Edited by Trent Algayer

All right, I haven't, admittedly insane, idea, but if I don't ask you, this is just you know, it's gonna held me the rest of my life. But I want to keep talking to you. You know, I have no idea what your situation is, but, uh, but I feel like we have some kind of connection. Right, yeah, me too. Right, well, great. So listen, here's a deal. This is what we should do. You should get off the train with me here in Vienna and come check out the town. So part what have you been eating? Trendst Mr Al Gare, nice to see you, by the way. You're looking well. It's all we always a pleasure. I recently had chocolate chip cookies that my brother made or they were they homemade, or was it out of like the dough roll home at the process? No, no, no, Trent, the Marat's don't take anything. You know, we don't do anything halfway. My brother started from scratch. He's a real shit. Speaking of cookies, do you know whenever you've finished like a meal and you're like, oh now I just need something sweet? So I finished lunch and I needed something sweet, but we were out of all the standard dessert options. So then I got desperate and the closest I could get the sugar in my body was spare chocolate chip in the cupboard. So I didn't get the full package deal of cookies like you. I just got I just got one, a single ingredient. Addie, wait your I got our guests in the show this week. Would you have ad is, a local woman? Welcome, thank you. This morning I had eggs and then I just a minute ago, I too had a cookie. It was Oha. Which one that Shit of? What variety? Oh, no, chocolate chip, homemade. So you and part are conspiring against me, Addie. What's your what's your opinion on the on the on the cookie bars are you? Do do prefer chocolate chip? Do you like OATMEAL and Raisin? And this was some weird combination. I've never had an oatmeal and chocolate chip cookie. Yeah, that's that's my all time favorite cookie without the raisins, but I think, I think I would still eat it with raisins, but I would never personally make it with raisins. Yeah, I think it's good. We all gathered here today to just shit on raisins and why anyone would ever think to include them in a cookie. Because you had such a good thing going and why introduced this new this new variable, like raising friend time. I'm a big fan of Oat meal and raisin cookies. You can't keep slandering them like this. But you're going to look at me with the straight face and tell me that you if you had to choose between a chocolate chip cookie or an oatmeal raisin cookie for the rest of your life? What's your what's your decision? I don't know. I really like oat meal, like the taste of Oat meal, but you can still have vote me. I was a separate entity. Addie isn't. I would go as far as the say, an OATMEAL addict. She knows the thing or two about cupped morning oatmeal and I wrong. You are, you're right, right. That's my go to Trent. How do we how do you want to Segue? Wait, you want to sort the show? Wait, I mean if you want or that's a thing you'd be interested in. You. We've a podcast. There's an intro, their different segments and it's time and we have in introduction music. Welcome back to craft services, where we talk about Trent, the movies. We have a podcast. This is our show about the movie. It's a film. It's a film podcast show. Each week we talked about a film and hopefully have a crew member of that film to talk with us about their experience working on the movie. Last week we had Monica Petrillo, who was the script supervisor for our film for Today Before Sunrise. She was swell and this was the first episode of the podcast that Addie listened to. Addie, did you think it was swell, very swell, excellent, and I was here. I think the best thing about it was that Monica patrol was the script...

...supervisor for our chosen film before sunrise, but also that she was a delightful woman. I would agree. It was that combination that I think made the episode so well balanced and well rounded, and it'd be nice if you went and listen to that one, but also if you stuck Ryan and listen that this one. That'd be great too. Yeah, so, Trent, does this movie have a synopsis that I can tell you like? Would you be interested in that? Yeah, no, very tell me. A young man and woman meet on a train in Europe and wind up spending one evening together in Vienna. Unfortunately, both know that this is probably going to be their only night together. Little do they know there are two whole additional movies this same yeah, this the say you're only that for guys. This is the only first, this only the first installment in the before franchise. Wait, just wait nine years, and then another nine years and will will fill in on the rest of the details. All right, first question. You scry for me? Yes, I'm going to ask your describe for me your first sexual feelings towards a person. Yes, so, it's movie has a ninety five percent fresh certification on rotten tomatoes. It also has a budget. Had A budget of two point five million dollars and then a box office of five point five million dollars. So in economic success, a financial triumph. Don't like that enough to justify trilogy which, if, according to what we learned with Monica Patrillo, wasn't even the plant. Wait part. Speaking Monica Trillo, remember how, as soon as we end every interview, the interview, he says the most interesting thing and then it isn't recorded. Do you remember what that was with Monica Petrillo? I don't. Monica Petrillo is asked to join the project because of her issues from Europe and she understood German and for wrench and all the other languages in question, and the opening scene with the German couple arguing. She said she told us what they were arguing about. Do you remember what they arguing about? Is there no subtitles? See, she could thousand and twelve seemed to go with a five. We started to film the men to Michel the finest em systems not equal things he shows to Menapi for me, I helped to sending gold to Kendfid just to us, if but them to tie them in fickling. I do not turn. Oh, apparently it was about husband calling the woman and Alcoholic and then the woman saying I'm an alcoholic because you're intolerable and I'm married to you. And that was fun and new production history. Try nothing would make me happier, speaking of the fact that this movie entail the production, here's the production history. Before Sunrise was inspired by a woman whom writer director Richard Link later meant in a toy shop in Philadelpha. One thousand nine hundred and eighty nine. Link later wanted to explore the relationship side of life and discover two people who had complete unanimity and try to find out who they really were. It was shot in twenty five days. It was shot in sequence. Originally the screenplay the city in which the people wandered was vague, and then Richard Link later realized that it would made the most sense to have it take place in a foreign city where people were like open to new experiences and stuff. And also he brought in, he wanted to bring in a female co writer named Kim Kazan, who played minor roles and slacker and based in confused, just to give it, you know, feminine side. Because yeah, and then here's a quote from Julie Delpy talking about how her and Ethan Hawk rewrote most of the script and then weren't credited for it. Ethan and I basically rewrote all of it. There was an original screenplay, but it wasn't very romantic, believe or not, it was just a lot of talking rather than romance. Richard hired us because he knew we were writing and he want us to bring that romance to the film. We brought those romantic ideas and that's how I wrote something that actually got made without really getting credit for it. But if I had written before sunrise and been credited, then I doubt it would have been financed. And then it says, though, they weren't credit on this film,...

...but they were accredited for writing the sequels. The actual screenplay was written in eleven days. Part they have any fun facts for us, because those were facts, but they they were they weren't on that fun sure Ethan Hawk and Julie Delpi are the only actors in the movie that have names. The movie is supposed to take place from June sixteenth to June seventeen. One thousand nine hundred and ninety four and a little teas of what might have been Gwyneth paltrow and Jennifer Anderston's auditioned for the league part. All right, everyone, would you rather have Gwyneth paltrow or Jennifer Aniston in place of this role? Gwyneth paltrow. Gwyneth Paltrow, I can gurr. I agree, but these are both Brad Pitts x love interests, you know, few if that interests you. Some, I mean we like this film. However, some people, some heathens on the Internet, had something else to say, and we like to explore those godless creatures in our segment called one star reviews add a, would you do us the pleasure of reading our first one star review. This is a review by Jerry Hondovitz, may twenty nine, two thousand and eighteen. He says, I showed this maybe just sixteen people. Three were left by the end of the movie. All right, so let's get the fact that Jerry knows sixteen people. Imagine part imagine if I tasked you. I was like, let's watch a movie, invite over fourteen additional people. We don't know fourteen people. I barely know two people. But but even though JERD on this call, but even though Jerry has all those friends, they're not that. First of all, they have no taste, because they all left in the middle, before sunrise. And if these are not very good friends, because why are they leaving, Jerry? Saycause that's exactly saying. is even if your friend picks a bad movie, you're just going to be like, I don't enjoy the selection. Fuck you, Jerry, Jandwidth, I'm going home. This one is from Timothy English, with the heading skip this movie if you value your time. It was done on July ten two thousand and fourteen. Terrible movie with bad acting. The dialog was boring and I recognize some of it as stolen from other sources. So the fun any part about this is that his last name is Timothy. English he's accusing the film of plagiarism, like as if he invented the English language. And I don't know who Timothy Frankly thinks he is. It's a weird one because I'm not really sure he's doesn't say who this is stolen from. Yes, and he also doesn't say conclusively, but he he just says it's he recognized it. So I don't know. I don't know what this man's deal is. So our third reviews by Richard May and it's titled Very Tedious and Self Absorb and it says if you like watching the clothes dry, which I've never an expression. I've never heard it. You know, you hear paint dry, etc. But close heard grass growing, but I've never heard great additional examples, and of which involved floats. So it says, if you like watching the clothes dry, the silly romance tale is for you. Personally. Romance on my own life is far more interesting than this driffle. So Richard May woke up and he said I'm going to use the word drivel today and I'm gonna rip a movie limb from Lamb, and he did both of those things and I think we need to know what's going on in Richard's love life. It's if it's more interesting than that, it big it begs the question. Is Richard over exaggerating and his love life isn't interesting, or is he telling the honest truth and Richard's stories just waiting to be told, in which case we should contact him and see what he has to say. I feel like he's got to be so he's got to be a little bit selfabsorbed, because there's no way anybody watches a movie and is just like, no normal person watches a movie and goes this is not interesting because my life is more...

...interesting, although I think if I've never watched a movie and been like my life is more interesting than this, because I think movies go out of their way to make themselves about interesting things. But I think it would be a problem because my life isn't that exciting, and so if I saw a film and my what I did yesterday, was more exciting, I would I would consider that a problem. Sure, but I mean, this isn't supposed to be like a I don't know, it's like an odd it's an odd statement to make. Well, one thing I loved about this movie is I was like, I could like this. Ever, everything that just happened could happen, and if this happened to me or someone I know, I would totally believe it, and I think that's part of the baby. Well, should we get into our own opinions on on all these things? Screenplay, the movie, the acting? Yeah, I guess what we could say is that we're going to talk about what what's working, and then what's not working. Essentially, yeah, because we're, yeah, we're grasping at some level of structure. You know, once you hit the forty five episode of the PODCAST, they say that really try to find your footing in terms of the different segments. Now's a good time, nice bridge. Yeah, this is kind of birds little award press it right, right. So, this is great. This is great. Let's go to some places like at too, but run Vino, let's go to surprises. I know I'd heard of the movie a lot. I heard a lot of people say that it's one of the best movie trilogies of all time, and then one night I was like I'm in a before sunrise move let's go. And then I watched it. I watched sunrise and then I watched the sequel's sunset and midnight, the same all in the same day. Oh, I don't think I could do that. Well, it helped. It helped because they were they're all like relatively short. So it was kind of like if you watch like four episodes of a TV show or something. Addie, your first time watching this film, I only watched it because I saw your guys as podcast lineup and you said, Hey, Addie, you should watch this movie, and I was driving home from Washington and I said, you know what, I'm gonna Watch this movie, and so I did and I was. I was pleasantly surprised when I heard there's a second and a third following, because I didn't know that. Strangely enough, I don't think I knew that there was a second and the third and especially about the production of the evenly space release, because I remember finishing the first and thinking oh or I knew there was another movie, but I didn't know about the specificity of it, because I thought, oh, it's going to be picking up in six months and I thought that that was stupid because I thought their lives are going to be in a very similar place six months from now. I mean, we'll get into this later, but I kind of think that this movie functions way better as part of a three act structure, essentially because, as beautiful as it is to say, this occurs entirely in a bottle and they never saw each other again, and that's part of the beauty and it's left open to speculation. It kind of feels like empty and hopeless if that, if that's the end of their story, you think that if it ended at with this movie it would be empty and hopeless? I mean it would. Everyone would be guessing whether they meet up again. But it's that that's hopeful. Trent, are you dead in the heart? Well, part there were. They were going to meet again six months from then. Let's get this thing organized. We can't stand here with this mindless chattering at you are guests for today. Yeah, what's your why don't you? Why don't you tell us what you thought of the movie? What you what you liked about the movie, and then later you did it like I really overall, would say I loved the movie. I told many people about the movie. I thought it was I thought it was really cute.

I my favorite, my favorite scene in the whole part was when they did and they did the fake phone calls and they're sitting in the booth and I was like, okay, that was really cute. The ending was nice. It's like one of those movies that it's like that was really cute and happy, but it kind of makes you sad, but in a good way, and I'm happy. Said production. In my limited experience, I knew added was a sucker for Rom coms. Thus the dust the recommendation, and she was lucky enough to watch it on a small iphone screen. Was Antal while in the back of a crowded vehicle, which is ideal viewing circumstances. How absolute it's what like later intended? Could you be embarrassed by now? Is Getting got enough to train with me? No, that's it, but I do bet I'd probably be hanging around the airport read an old magazines, crying in my coffee because she didn't come with me. Oh Oh, actually, I think I'm probably gonna know the training size, but with someone else. Oh yeah, I see. So I'm just a dumb American momentarily decorating your blank canvas and I've been a great time. Really, yeah, me too. Tell me, tell me some things that you like about the found just just while we're here. There's something very few movies feel as real with it stopped, with their dialog and characters as this one does. And I'm a big fan of movies that sort of take place in very like a vacuum of time basically, and it's just two characters or a few characters talking over this space of this short amount of time. Movies like Steve Jobs, wink wink for potential episodes. But yeah, so I really, I don't know, I really really engaged with the characters and I thought that the writing for them was so naturalistic and, dare I say it, beautiful and, unlike Trent, I think, I don't think it would be hopeless if this, if the trilogy, were to end with this installment, but I'm a very big fan of the the fact that we did get installments to follow this story. So I love movies that kind of like corner a concept in the way that I explained in a past episode about how Benjamin Button will always be powerful because it's eat like despite all its flaws, because it's the someone aging backwards movie, and this movie will always be the falling in love in real time movie, and I think the craziest part about it is how the next I mean not to spoil anything, but that before before sunset, don't like, doubles down on that and really does it like second for second, where there are a few montages to show the passage of time in this film. But I think this movie doesn't work with out the chemistry between the actors because it would just get annoying and having to spend so much time with them. You have to like the characters and be rooting for their relationship to work out. I feel like there's a lot of different scenes that different people could identify as being a part of their or analogous to some part in their past romantic experiences or whatever. I just think there's so much stuff that feels so real and I think having the actors actually be helping to write their own dialog and infusing themselves into their own characters really it goes a long way. I think after seeing this movie, it's not it's hard to not reference it in your own life when, say, you're breaking up with someone or whatever it may be that this movie is always in the back of my head about the drama of...

...how, how Nice and beautiful you would like your relationship to be viewed. Addie, are there any things you don't like, perhaps with this movie, or any quibbles, however, however big or small, not necessarily, I know I was. I tried really hard to think those things that I didn't like when I watched it. And the only thing, and it and I know it is part of and it was just the specific scene, not anything like the movie production or whatever, but when they do the whole palm reading whatever and and then Jesse's all like Blah, Blah Blah about it, and I hate how he's such a realist in that moment. And then but I like how, like later on the road when they're doing when they have their first real fight, that's what they fight about, because I was like, I didn't like that either, and I thought was but like overall, like film wise and or scene ways or anything like that. Really I like to the the palm reader scene and the poet scene are notable because it's like the two main times. So they're interacting with like with notes, like bodies, and those are the two scenes which I think work the least good. But something I like about the the poetry scene is at afterwards he wants to complain about how that is all a big sham to like he did with the palm reader, and Julie Delpi told him prior like hey, I found it really unattractive when you did that, like you were being a Dick, and then he just starts to go on the rant and then he, he, he cools down and then he cools down. But something I will say in the in the not working category, is, and a lot of something a lot of the reviews touched on, is that the dialog was, quote, pretentious, which I don't know, I don't agree and I don't disagree with because I think it's intentionally that way and it's acknowledged that Ethan Hawks Hays oh I'll be telling the same pseudo intellectual story. It's so clearly itself a where, but it's accurate because when you're twenty three and you're traveling in a foreign country for the first time and you meet someone and you want them to like you, you're going to try to act really smart and I think it's a little bit unrealistic how they're talking about death and God and high concept love the whole time. Meanwhile, when I think hang out with someone can be a lot more observational, like hey, look at that and let's talk about like I love how, when they get off the train, the first thing Ethan Hawk says is this is really nice bridge. And then, and then they acknowledge the awkward silence for the first time, which I think need to be done. is otherwise it would have been too perfect. If you're not suitable intellectual enough to start or participate in a podcast, I can see where I can lose you in the first fifteen minutes. Always make fun of it and stuff, but is an everything we doing in life way to be loved a little more? Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes I dream about being a good father and a good husband. It seems it feels really close, but then other times it seems silly, like it would ruin my whole life. Is the just a fear of commitment or that I'm incapable of caring or loving? Because I can? It's just that, if I'm totally honest with myself, I think I'd rather die knowing that I was really good at something, that I had excelled in some way and did. I just been a nice caring relationship. I think also part of it is unintentional because everybody working on that movie was kind of young at that point. So some of that was probably just their own attitudes coming out in the script and I think it's fine for...

...this movie. But it works better when it's viewed as part of the trilogy because you get to like that that's all stuff that gets commented upon in the character in future installments. So I think it works. Something I think the movie does exceptionally well is as soon as I wanted to be like this scene is too serious, it takes itself to serious. It cuts away to something intentionally non serious and I think that intercutting definitely helps the momentum of the film. It has this nice level of nothing is too serious and nothing is too joking or humorous. It it look maintains this level of realism throughout. It never becomes like wow, the dramatic tension is so much higher right now. As a you know thing that's done by the script. It kind of reminds me of about time, which is fun fact. For a very good friend of of mine and guest of the show, Sophia Alexa's favorite movie burn it. I seen that I think is worth discussing and is the when they're in the listening booth scene and it just a few minutes of silence and watching their body language and it's intentionally uncomfortable but at the same time watching them steal a little glances at each other. It's pretty nice. But you guys think, yeah, I like it. I thought it was cute. I wrote a little notes and I was watching it today and I wrote listening booth scene. Love the tension and how they keep looking at each other. There's a win that loose from and it says a loving bakes is cool. Come. This is perhaps personal, but at the beginning of the listening booth scene they they start playing the music and it's almost through personal experience there's a level of Oh, I'm going to show you this song or this movie, and then you put it on and then the first thirty seconds to a minute, obviously you're just sitting there quietly and nothing interesting is happening, and it's one of the most like penntual, relatable feelings in the world of almost feeling embarrassed for this piece of art that you didn't play any roll in creating. Because your want to impress this person and because it's not immediately stimulating you're so abashed by it. Am I wrong? For a movie where it's all about talking, it's nice that there's a dedicated scene for them to not talk, and I think the movie gets a lot of attention for the script and the dialog, but I think, and that's obviously the most obvious good thing about the movie, but I feel like it doesn't get talked enough about their sort of physicality with each other, because there's a lot of good like physical acting in this. It kind of feels like a play because it feels like, you know, obviously with their dialog you're seeing them fall in love with each other, but with their body movements, if you track how they are in physical relation to each other, they u so you slowly see them getting more and more comfortable with each other, like if you look at that scene where they're on the tram, that you can kind of see like Ethan Hawk's character, Jesse, is like sort of testing the waters. He's not sure like should he put his arm around her? Should he like touch her hair anything? And I think like obviously it's heightened because it's a movie, but there's something very relatable of sort of you know you're not a hundred percent sure what's okay to do and navigating that, and I like that you can track that over the course of the movie. I think I'm just while we're here, let's talk about...

...the cinematography, because usually I have very little to say in this section, but boy am I a sucker for long takes and boy my sucker for walk and talks and huge walk and talk fan and you get some good ones here. Some send notably long ones, like what when they're when they're on the bus and they have the whole what were your first sexual feelings towards another person? And then that shot just goes on for like ten minutes and they had to memorize all those words and it's really impressive. I know, I know, Jean Maccluy, should Larry, and we had this time I come together and you, mays, a swimmer here, so you know I went to see swam a few times and the swam competition that you might still sexy, really, I mean really sexy. You know, we can wrote this little declarations of love to each other at the end of the summer and you know, promise who would be riding forever and, like you know, meet again very soon, did you? Well then, I think this is the opportune time to tell you that I happen to be a fantastic swimmer. Yeah, I think this movie is really impressive in a way that's not in your face. It's not a one take where it's like the cameras fucking crazy and it's moving all these places. It's a very simple two shot of them just sitting on a tram, but it helps, it helps sort of suck you in a little bit more. Addy the scene you mentioned of them in in the bar with the telephone seeing one of my favorites. Also like they're they're just using a more seamless like shot, reverse shot sort of thing, and I think that works like just as well and it's it draws just as a little attention to itself, even though it's a more standard technique. Do Do we want to get into into the Nitpick Section? Sure, I know it's your favorite. I have a few and then we can go from there. Yeah, please, something that's always bothered me. So you know the scene where Julie delpi wants Ethan Hawk to get a bottle of red wine and he goes into the bar and he says, can I please have a bottle? Give me the addressed and I'll send you the money. He doesn't take the address and I really would like to believe that Ethan Hawk was going to be good on his word because he seems like an honest man. But he doesn't take he doesn't take Julie DELPI's phone number to call her either, and he doesn't take this guy's address. Yeah, what's that all about? Also, they litter the wine bottle in the park, which it is shown in the end end montage for and I understand why it's there. But lettering. Yeah, I think my one. It's not really something that I would actually want to be changed about the movie, but I when my very good friend and I watch this movie, we both really wanted to see what happened with the the play, the cow, yea, the count yes, and every time it hurts that they don't see it, but I understand it. It makes sense that they don't go. This is a this is a play we both in and we would like to invite to actors. No, not professional actors, a part time make us for fun. It's a play about the cow and the Indian searching for it, Dell, also in politicians, Rusi kids, Russian Communists. So you have a real cow and no, not to real codes, an actor and the cow custom and he's the guy. Yes, I am the car and the cause a bit weird. The cow has a the C's she's acting a bit strange, like a dog. If someone throws her stick, she fetches it and breaks it back and she can smoke with the hoofs and everything right. Well, as we learned with Monica Petrilla, she said that those two men were non actors and that they had actually just run into them and thus they didn't anticipate having to shoot the cow show.

So I don't think the cal show really existed, but I and I like how they make a moment of we didn't go to those guys the show. He guess why? We didn't go to this guy's play play. Yeah, the cow. Yeah, I missed it. I had something. I think that this movie does really well. Please love it when they establish a location by just cutting between a bunch of different groups talking in foreign languages, because even if they're not saying anything particularly substantial, it sounds really inherently entertaining. Because you're not being asked to understand it. Bring, bring, picket, pick up the phone. Oh, hello, I know. Hmm, Vanese, Selina. Come on, have a Seva be in it to you meant a cake. Shows that Quai. Yet I've been working on my English recently. What you want to talk in English just for laughs? Yeah, okay, that's a good idea. I don't think I'm going to be able to make it for lunch today. I'm sorry, I I made a guy in the train and I got off with him in Vinaw. We still there? Are you crazy? I've one more thing. Wait, yeah, one more thing. Go ahead. This isn't a Nippick, it's a compliment. I really love the ending montage because, I mean interpret it as you will, but my take is that it shows that you know that, basically, they were never even there and that all of these places will exist before and after them, and it's almost like it never even happened and like they explain how they were. Essentially they're lit. The craziest thing about is how they were living it out on borrow time and how they shouldn't be having this experience right now. And Yeah, I thought it. I thought it was nice to and I honestly think it should have ended on one of the shots of the locations rather than them just smiling out the windows of the train. That just me, you know, and I also think that it's nice to have that montage of all of the locations because in the sequel, the the sunrise ends with that and the sequel opens with a montage of all the places they will end up visiting. So it's a nice little parallel there. So would it be so wrong, because we've all seen all three films, would it be so wrong, to do something of a ranking of the three? Are We? Are we going to talk about sunset or midnight? I was going to say, I mean no, no, no, such episodes are scheduled. Okay, all right, part you seem reserved and with that being said, tell us your ranking. My favorite is before midnight. I just think that that one's the I really like sunrise, but it's very easy to show people. Well, it's not very easy, but it in my head. It's a little bit more easy to have a movie that's like a sweet, romantic sort of people falling in love story. And I think midnight is most interesting because it deconstructs sort of what is that act mean? If you, if you, if you choose to love and yet the family with and whatever, if you follow through with what you thought was a one night fling, what actually happens twenty years later? And it yeah, it for better or worse. It's Britty. And then I think I like this one because I it for all of the reasons that I said that I like midnight more, but I think sunrise is just so sweet and fun to watch, and it's nothing against sunset, which I also really like, but it's I think. I think I like midnight for being like a lot of time later and sunset is...

...a lot of time later, but the characters are same, relatively Samish in terms of how they are compared to the first movie. I don't know. I want to talk right now. Easy, by yourself, are you we forbody? Yeah, I'm by myself and happy to be. I'm an angry person and I hurt my kids, my work and everyone. I loved this what. Okay, I'm not in the mood. I came here to be alone because I've just been checking you out from across a cafe and I don't want to make you uncomfortable, but you are by far the best looking woman in this place. Thank you very much, and I was just I'd love to buy a drink, maybe talk to you, get to know you a little bit. You know, I mean you hear in business, okay, are you have a boyfriend? Not Anymore, sorry that I want to talk about it. I was thinking today about how before sunset could go directly into before midnight and it's still functions. Am I wrong? Yeah, I mean, I guess you could do that, but but I think sunset is still a worthy endeavor, I think. The only thing I mean, I think the thing I don't like about sunset is in watching it, I'm like not, not enough time has past to make them reappraising these same philosophical issues, like to make their to make their opinions that much different, and so for that reason it felt very similar, especially because it's two beautiful young people still walking around another beautiful European city. I mean, my ranking, I'm afraid, is the same as yours. I had a what's your ranking? Sunrise is my favorite, and midnight and then Sun set. Is that? Is that? What's the universal what's like? What's considered the the fan favorite of the three part you know, you have the criterion box set. I do. It's kind of weird. I mean I think people on the whole Think Sunrise is the most classic of all of them, which is true, but I think if you were to talk to film Bros, as it were, they would actually say, I think, but before sunset, because I've seen the ghost amounts, the technical elements. Yeah, I mean I think that it being fully, you know, in real time, and the natural lighting of it all helps and I think people just really like how because I think the thing is sunrises really sweet and midnight is very not like depressing, but it's very real, and I think sunset is the perfect mix of the two for a lot of people because it's still a little bit hopeful in terms of well, we can still fall in love and do this great thing, and midnight is like what do you do once you've already done that? So I think that's why people like sunset on the whole more so. Do we want to go into our first ever ratings gauntlet part can you? Can you explain the Ratings Gauntlet to the folks at home? What we do with the ratings gauntlet is we give we give our decision of whether we would recommend this movie, what it's rewatchability is and our own personal ratings? Yes, and and then our standard one to ten rating. So add a do Wanta? Do want to do? Want to take it away? Would you recommend this to a friend? What would you rewatch it and then rate out of ten? Okay, I would recommend it to a friend. I recommended it to all my friends. How how reach watchabullet? Would you casually rewatch this film on a rainy day? Is With this be a film that you're reaching for? I think so. I think this film will go into like my pocket of tens of whatever films. That looks like. There's a bunch of films that you could always be like, I could watch this, and then there's the...

...ones that aren't you comfortable, and I think this is a comfort film and I'd rate it out of ten. I had to say nine out of ten. who added the severity of that statement? There are very few few nines handed out on the show. There are. There are a lot of sixes and sevens, because we try not to get too excited and we try not to not not to be too aggressive towards the films that people so graciously agree to talk about with us. But a nine. Look at you. Yeah, right, parts. You really like the movie. Part, give your give your gauntlet. Yeah, I mean, I've read. I think. Did I recommend it to you, Trent, to watch? Yes, so, part. Yeah. So, so here we are. So, yeah, I would recommend it to any and everybody that has a beating heart. I think it's, of the three, probably the most rewatchable, because I think it's agree always the nicest starting point. And then out of ten, I want to say ten, but but you can need to do you need to leave room for improvement, since you want to, since midnight is more. I don't know, though, because I feel like, for what it is, it is perfect to me. I don't there's really nothing I would change about it. So yeah, I'm going. I'm going to do it. It's I think it's like my third time ever handing out at ten, but I think it's a ten. Yeah, you also give a ten to moment, do not? The other one might be I think I give a ten out of ten to spiderman too. Yeah, yeah, you did historical moment for the pop. Yeah, it was really people didn't know what was going to happen. What was I going to like the movie or not, but I did so. Yes, I recommended this film to Young Addie here. So are recommend wow, it's really a triangle film suggestions here. Like I have re watched this film. I did an hour ago and I thoroughly enjoyed it. But surprisingly, after watching the entire trilogy and relative proximity to one another, I between segments. I was so eager to see what happened next, especially between sunset at midnight, when I mean I don't want to say what happens, but in sunset their relationship status is undetermined and then you're like, okay, we know there's another movie and it's not going to be about them being friends. But this is totally a comfort movie. I like romantic comedies as much as I mean, I wouldn't even it. This isn't considered a romantic comedy. It's probably just a drama right, although it's very roomy funny and it has funny moments. But I feel like that would be a weird John rered to put this in yeah, because then I feel like you're putting it up against a bunch of other movies that are way more wacky than this. This movie is, I think, the humor in this film. It's very subtle to light and also it just one of the films you can kind of just turn on at any moment and watch for fifteen minutes and see beautiful people in a beautiful city be beautiful and say and say interesting or kind of interesting things, and what more can you ask for? So, with the all that being said, I'm going to give it an eight because I like midnight more, but I don't hand out tens. I'm not a ten slot like part. I've never, never even given out of ten on the show. Saving it do we are we closing out now? Or Yeah, I would say the PODCAST is coming to a natural conclusion. Young addy, thanks for coming on the show. You're really delightful. Thanks for watching the film about the future of the show. But up. Oh yeah, so's you can say hello and goodbye to our greacious guest, young Addie. You've yes that. Thank you, first of all, Addie, for coming on the show. We appreciate it. Will cherish this time for the years to come. But for the future of this show, I can say that...

...we are going to be putting out our new slate of movies and people help me a little bit about the late maybe? Yes, maybe it's next week. Yeah. Well, well, I'll give you next week's on this episode and then you'll be seeing the slate on the instagram after this episode comes out. But also this is the end of the episode where a little bit of information is it tends to be leaked. Yeah, so next week we're going to be talking with the cinematographer, Steve Jobs. I'll win Kushler. He was what you say. He was delightful. Yeah, no, I would use that exact word and that I'll come out next Sunday. Like our episodes always do, generally tend to at part. Can you wait? Well, we dropped. What? What's an episode on the slate that we haven't dropped a hint for? I'll give a TA's. I won't say what it is. Always he's for the fifty episode. Spectacular. This is. This is the tease for our fifty episode on this show, our half century, as it were. What's a coy thing? I can say? Yeah, be coil. Oh, I think I can do it. What thank go. Think in the think about the director, spider man, and then think about how and and then think about how before sunrise is a trilogy, and then sure. Yeah, think about trilogies that Sam Rami has done. And have we done? Have we done any like Zombie or movies that I can use to relate even further to the film in question, because it's the third film, the conclusion to the trip, let's say, it's a conclusion to a trilogy that Samray meet directed and and we know maybe we hope you stay alive for it. Yeah, and we may have just talked with the second unit director. I can't they can't make any guarantees. Not here to make promises I can't keep. But we may have spoken with them and he may have been wonderful, may have been nice conversation. I don't know, I don't have a podcast. Yeah, you'll find out when our sleep comes out. So, parthen addy, how about we meet back here in in a year? How does that say? Wait, six months, let's make it six prison. Yeah, okay, so today is today's June four, so that would mean December. Well, when this comes out, it'll be June six. They'll be June six. All right, so December six, at this time, at this in all of our respective basements, and will I'm will do, will do is zoom, wait, add a. How what's the condition of your grandma? Does she seem to be in a stable condition? Do you think you'll do you think you'll be able to make it? Oh, like, I was looking good. How's your grandma looking? Part I mind minds looking fine enough. Okay, it's funny you mentioned that, because both my grandma's are dead. So a death of my grandma lover for Trent. Yeah, that will not peppardize our ability to do the show. But if one of your grandma's drop dead, then, Oh wait, we could reschedule if only we pick each other's contact information. But it's one thousand nine hundred and ninety five and yeah, there's no way of we don't just want to like people. We don't just want to like write once or twice and then have it sizzle out and have it be all sad. Right, and so give your grandma's a kiss on the cheek, because they might die and then you might not be able to meet up with your boyfriend, with your cool American boyfriend in Austria. But that's the that's just a little teaser. And before since that, thanks for listening everyone. We have a podcast and you just listen to it. Thank please, follow us on it's on Instagram, on twitter. Give us a good review. Wait, good at it, can you say? Can you ask the listeners at home and your most desperate, adorable voice to give us a review on Apple podcast you say they pretty please. All Right, listening as at home, just feel Grenna go...

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