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Episode 92 · 4 months ago

APOLLO 10 1/2 (2022) Discussion

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Parth and Trent have their least focused conversation in podcast history. Spending more time talking about space, than the film of the week this week. 

Edited by Trent Algayer

Good, ladies and gentle man, we are tonight's entertainment. Hold on, one, two, three, hundred and two, three four. One, two, three. Now. Was I Russian or was I drank? Guys, were Lucia Dead Body? I don't come Fu giving. Get away from her, you bitch. What's in the fuck your box? Hold onto your butts. As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. Hello, parth, let's begin the show. Hey, Trent, how you doing? What have you been eating? Good, nice to see you. By the way, you're looking well. I just made some trader Joe's Lacas in the toaster and then I had I made a smoothie. That didn't taste very good, but would you have just before starting this call, I had a leftover Taco from chipotle. You really at tripotle? You go for the TACO option. I generally go for a Burrito, but sophie and I were feeling feisty and ordered a tacos. What's the verdict on the Chipotle Taco? So they give you three of them, three of them. They get me three. I used to always get tacos because I like Tacos a lot, but I think burritos are generally just easier to manage and you know, it's just it's met it's less messy. I sort of feel like a burritos like the adult version of a TACO. But I've I've oscillated between the bowl and the Burrito, because the bowl is interesting, because then you can eat it with the bag of chips, but then you have to buy the bag of chips or you can have chips at home. Yeah, yeah, it's true. Part, part. Did we, or did me not, like angrily talk about the Indiana Jones Franchise for say, fifteen minutes right before starting this call it? Could it, or could or could it not affect how we treatment shit over? Thanks. Forty five minutes. There's not no chance. I'll put it. Should we start the movie part of the movie show of our movie podcast? Yeah, I feel like we've talked about what we've eaten. You know, we can have a the beginning, little segue. Yeah, a little a little opening jingle, little intro. That we should que nice, nice, let's kill the intro. Thanks, Canna, Bob Oh. Sorry, that's my part, part. Can I say something off the record? HMM, all right. Well, M R oh, Oh oh, sorry, that's my bad. That's my bad. Thats just anyways, was that golumn? It was a mixture of Gollum and jar jar, I think. Really. Yeah, yeah, you know, I heard the Jar Jarre under it was a little bit. Yeah, now I heard will saw a book old or you know, you're killing the part. Okay, let's see the show now. Welcome back to cross services, where we talk about the movies. Each week we talk about a film and hope they have a remember on that film to talk with us about their experience working on the picture. This week. Are Sorry, last week, last week.

Who Do we have? If we have, oh wait, we have let's set let's say it. Let's say it together on rain new in uniston. Yeah, with the title and their name. Let's just do the name, because you know, Yep, three, two, one, Bruce, Bruce Kurts, and he was the production designer of the film this week's film, Apollo ten and a half, which you can find on Netflix, the streaming service, you may have it. Trent is editing this episode, as he does also those most to all to the discussion episodes on the show. So, Trent, can you make us saying the name? Can you edit that to sound like we were more together than we were in reality. Through the magic of editing, perhaps the fans by this point we'll be able to tell whether or not I did that. Bruce Curtsy Rice curs. So who's to say? But parth, is Netflix going downhill fast? There's definitely. It's in a state of turmoil right now. Isn't that shocking? If you ask me? Two years ago, big Netflix is going to be a dominant force. So the rest of our lives. Um, it's not that shocking. It seems to have a company trajectory of what happens to any company that ends up becoming too big. Is it because they're raising the price, or are they raising the price because they got too big enough people are turned off and leaving? I mean, I think it's a combination of a lot of things. I think that raising the price doesn't help, but it's also the problem is actually there's an interesting there's a book that I can't remember the name of, but it's about the creation of dream works. HMM, and it reminds me a lot about that, which is the problem. Is Netflix whole methodology of creating content was that they would give a whole lot of money to whole lot of creators and just say go do your thing, we won't give you notes, you'll be able to do what you want. It can be however long you want it to be, can be however short you want it to be. Just make good stuff and you will be good. And the problem with that is that that made them big and that made a lot of really talented people come to them, and so they become like well, like Martin Scorsese, like no bomback, like you know, there's a there's a whole lot, there's whole crew people that have come to Netflix. So no problems, just neflix with the whole end in the corner exactly. But the problem is when that becomes a dominant force in production of film and TV, you run into the thing the networks of what. We do have to make money, though, we do have to like make this back in some way, and so then they go, okay, well, now we have to start giving notes and we have to start whatever, blah, blah blah, and so then you start to have netflix. Is Whole Appeal in my eyes was that you don't have to deal with the stuff that you have to deal with studios and networks but now, because they become such a big dominant force, now they do actually they can't afford to just keep spending money on all these things, and so the problem is that is annoying to the people that are promised full creative control and no notes, and now they don't have full control, creative control and they're getting notes. And the other thing is streaming services pay less, and so you have that you're getting the same notes and feedback that you get from a network, but you're getting paid less to get it. Not even like necessarily shown in theaters, unless you're a nominated for an Oscar and you do the limited run. You know. Yeah, and...

...then the other problem is that with their shows, the algorithm basically dictates that, unless you're stranger things or you know something else, you're getting canceled after two seasons, and that creates a problem because that's not good for shows, that's not good for, you know, production, and so I think that creators being a little ticked off the price is going up and the fact that it's a big company and that, like stock, prices are flaky and will always go up or down, and it nothing. Nothing is forever. So it's not shocking to me, but I think it's a Conglomerti of several things. Yeah, then I'm looking at the Netflix stock price right now and it is very concerningly low. It's good time to buy, you know. Yeah, and I guess that talked about Apollo ten and a half right. In a strange way, that segue was very natural. You know. Was that a segue? There's no segue. It's a nonsequitter. But let's talk about the film now. Yeah, wait, well, we part. WHO's week is it to describe it? You know, I think maybe mine. We've had guests the last few days, you know what I mean? Or Step Up, child, wait, man describes life in s and how and he goes to space. Him going to space being sort of an afterthought kind of speaks to the film a little bit. Yeah, but Trent, give us the real synopsis. The Real Synopsis, as it reads, is a coming of age story set in the suburbs of Houston in the that I coming of age story send the suburbs of Houston, Texas in the summer of one thousand nine hundred and sixty nine, centered around the historic apoll eleven moon landing and the box office and the budget are both not assessed. According to our document, no box office because it was straight to Netflix release, and no budget because it as a man out for that long part. Put it in. When I entered the document it said that the budget was twenty threezeros and I was very confused, especially when he was like wait, that is the budget. And well, because I assumed that it would be small. But even I was like, well, that's twenty threezero. That's that's pretty small. But I also I thought like, I don't know, maybe they, like a bunch of the cast, just did it as a favor. Well, I was like, Huh, like rotoscoping can't be that cheap. But also, yeah, to pay Jack Black probably more than twenty threezero. Yeah, but that turned out. That turned out to be the budget from slacker. Yes, so the first time I watched this movie I didn't realize that it was Jack Black's voice. That really I did. Go You, I'm proud of it. Wow, this movie is like voice over, a lot of it. That it is. There's our kid mission for what? We accidentally built a lunar module a little too small. How did that happened? Listener, you get a math. Yeah, you get a perfect one. Hundred on every test. No, okay, we need a kid like you to test this accidentally smaller version on the lunar surface and soon stand you're our only hope. Okay, great, let's forget about all this for now. We'll come back to their part later. First, let me tell you about life...

...back then. Living in the Houston area in the late S, it was a great time and place to be a kid, but the world was changing, and so is how we saw ourselves in it. Right, U. Yeah, mom, is that one a hippy? Yeah, yeah, that's a hippy. I'm about one. No, whos, there's not long enough, but he's wearing bell bottoms. Okay, that's a happy big girl with hippies. There's a covert operation. That means it does not exist. No one can know about this, not your parents, not your brother's, not your sisters, no one. Cool. Should I get into the product production history? Sure, this week the production history and fun facts are pretty short because there's not that much written about this movie. Not yet. Give it time, guys. Yeah, no, there's going to be a lot of writing on a Poula ten and a half to modern. So Richard Linklater originally got the idea for the film in two thousand and four and in February two thousand and eighteen, it was announced that he would direct the film from a screenplay that he wrote. Principal photography began February Two Thousand and twenty at Robert Rodriguez's troublemaker studios in Austin, Texas, and wrapped in March two thousand and twenty. In July two thousand and twenty, it was announced that Glenn Powell, Jack Black, Zachary Levi, Josh Wiggins, Milocoy, Lee Eddie, Bill Wise, Natalie Lamorro, Jessica Bryn Cohen, Sam Chipman and Danielle Will Bot, sorry about that, I don't think that's right. Had joined the cast. Yeah, it was also announced that Netflix was distributing the film. Richard Link later said that he had originally planned to create the film in live action, but later decided to go with an animation style influenced by Saturday morning cartoons. arth. Would you rather have the live action version or Rod Scope? I think rotoscop rotoscope, as will discuss later when it comes to some things. Just rode rodoscoping anything kind of makes it more interesting. s Houston, Texas home videos were used for research somewhere, also included in the film link. Later. Spent much of this time editing the film during covid nineteen. Late you do, she's big missions Chime, editing the film doing damn it. Parts of the filming were done in front of a green screen and everything the characters did not interact with or touch was animated in post production. You can hear more about that in our episode from actually not last week, two weeks ago, because we took a break because bar our reasoning. Well, that's an interesting question. Well, we had an interview that was planned and that would have gotten us the episode for the week you're hearing right now, but that interview got moved and so we were tired and so we are like, let's postpone so that we have time. Yeah, US being I thought you're just going to say we were tired, because that was sort of my motivation. If yeah, well, you you were tired and you were tired and didn't want to record, but I would have pushed for us to record had we had another interview in the back, but we did not. HMM. And lastly, the technique used in this film for rotoscoping is similar to what link later used in his film waking life and a skinner darkly.

I haven't seen waking fun facts. That's two thousand and one. Is it good? I have. I have scared darkly in class. I haven't seen waking life, but it interests me solely because there's a small I think it's a collection of short like it's a Vignett's anthology film. Oh, and one of the sequences is with the characters from the before trilogy. Really it's at them in bed talking together, and that was crazy. Yeah, and is it the all know? Well, because it wouldn't make sense given what happens in sunset. And Yeah, yeah, so it takes place in between one and two. Well, I mean it doesn't. It doesn't take place but anywhere. It came out in between. Yeah. Yeah, Richard like later, has said that that's a like a dream sequence or something like in one of their one of their heads, I guess. So you want to hear the fun facts? Yeah, Trent, there's literally nothing else I would like to hear. Yeah, there's only two of them. Jack Black's mother, Judith Love Cohen, help develop the abort guidance system, which ultimately helped get apolo thirteen back to Earth. Wow, what a personal connection the two NASA officials who roam stands flight training or named boss boss stick and crayons a few mess Tho stairs after mass engineers Jr bostick and gene crams. Dope, let's move them the once reviews, which this week, or from letter Boxcom, because it knows we do Amazon reviews on DVD's purchased, but the new DVD's of this, this is not an Amazon film. What? There won't be DVD's? No. Do they not make blue rays of Netflix movies? Is Not counterintuitive? Not Usually. I mean some get the ability to, but most don't. The only cases I can think where it's like sometimes if there are a coproduction with another studio or something, then they end up getting blue releases. Or if you're Martin Scorsese and you make the Irishman, you get a criterion collection blurry. Also, let it be known that on letterbox you can give a half star, and so some of these are one star on some of these are one half star. Well, only one is a half star and I only put it in there because I thought it was funny. Okay, I'm ready to begin. Give us one this first one is by it's got a long name but very scrench. Sure he's a picture of a person that also seems very French, so perhaps they're from France. Trench, Trent. Try to say his name. This will be a good challenge. There a lot of accent marks and a but Ettien philly in Suave or Suave A. I think about save a, but he says we get it Dick as in Richard Link. Later you liked your childhood, because, I mean APPs given this movie, it would be like if I told you, like Parth, just make a movie about your childhood and you just like did it, you know. Yeah, this next one is by gratitude one and he says real boomer Shit, which, yeah, I would agree. Part what are we? Jen? We're Gen Z. is that good? Do we have a reputation of being annoying? But what you want a generation doesn't what our children now called? I think it's undetermined. Well, I think we've done the whole I think I've a letters. We're doing alpha. Next,...

...are we in way the Internet went to tell us? The way it says, wait, Jan a as is the new one. Beget Gen Z goes up to two thousand and twelve. Well, it's a generation Alpha, like they're doing the Greek Alpha that. So the next will be Beta's tough. Yes, tough, yeah, tough feat cool. Well, we watch this movie. Well, we'll wait, tret, you've completely you've glossed over the bow. Is this, shall I say it? It has the least to do with the film. But sure, no, but I think that's great. So this is an awesome star review. It has the most likes, though, twelve. Yeah. Well, the first review has no likes, the second review has two likes and this one has twelve legs. So you know, this is by smithy will and they have a will Smith smiling profile photo. Yeah, do you think this is the real will smith or it very well like be sure? No, I think this is the real guy. And it says it reads Will Smith was on the moon, and it's funny because the picture of him on a white background kind of looks, kind of looks like him on the moon, his face, yeah, bowing up on the Moon, like will Smith is the man on the moon. Yeah, I was thinking while watching this movie. I was like, Huh, if I have the opportunity to go to the moon, would I accept it and I was like. First I was like no, and then I watch a video of the Challenger explosion and I was like yeah, I don't want that to happen. And then the movie continued and they went to the moon and only twelve people ever have gone to the moon and I was like maybe that would be really cool. And I don't think we get to go to the moon anytime soon, but if I had the opportunity, I think it would be wrong to say now. The thing is, I would take the opportunity because I think at this point, with the way technology is evolved, there's way less of a shot that like someone dies. The only thing is that, like, astronauts are like the craziest rocks, like they rock stars, like they have to be, yes, Super Smart. You're the you're the one personally one percent yes you, which is like a hard combination, you know. Yeah, like you have to be and you have to like be cool because, like you have to go and do they're going to put you on parents, they're going to put you on TV and are you're saying we're not big enough, strong enough, cool enough or smart enough to go to the moon. Um, I'll tell you what we are. Where two men hosting a podcast. Also, now that there's all the press, like when Jeff bezos goes to space, it's like not cool because it's like waste of money, waste of resources. Yeah, and to get to the moon in the first place, to do it once is really dope. But now, after the fact, I kind of understand if people were like, we did that already. Now it's just a waste. Like I think, like the next thing that would be cool would be Mars, but like to send someone to Mars, because we only have the Mars rover. But the Mars rover like seems like a pretty cool guy. Like you could grab a beer at the Mars rover. Yeah, no, no, definitely, Bro. I mean I think I when I was a kid, I really like my life's ambition was to be an astronaut. Wow, I went to the Kennedy Space Center when I was three and I loved it. Uh Huh. And I became obsessed with space movies and space documentaries and there's a documentary called failure is not an option. It's pretty awesome. Just you guys should watch it. But do you think? I think that fill out like to live out those dreams? No, we'll see if climate change doesn't take us all. Yeah, I thought you were going to say that with climate change, they're like as in what you think we're going to go? I think a F...

...to go to another planet is like idiotic, because we should just like try to save this while we got. It true that we couldnts interstellar so that we don't have to make an escape plan. Well, no, I mean like the smartest and cheapest decision is to invest in like planet saving, well, not really saving the planet, US saving technologies, like cheaper energy and clean energy and that whole stuff, and that is the best option, but we're not to it. Why not? I've found major reassurance. And, though, what's that like? Even if our generation like sees the downfall of humanity, like I'm like, Oh, you know how, when you think about like mass extensions through like all the giraffes in the polar bears are going to be dead and then like laughter, they're dead, and then it's like going to be humans, and then after we're dead, you just think like nothing, because we're not there anymore. But like they have been mass extinctions before and so just like our time, like a million years after we're gone, just like the next thing is going to evolve and they're going to be like like rats and they're gonna like turn in like humans or something. Well, not that exactly, but just like rats, who are whoever survives is going to turn into the next thing and life will go on. Well, I mean that's the thing is that everybody says we need to save the planet, but the thing is the planet will be fine. Yeah, well, that's you it billions of years in the future when the sun explodes. Like, yes, at some point are just going to die. Yes, and that's what everyone has their panties in a not over, but the it's going to be super rats after who feed on all of us and they're going to get really buff and they're going to come above ground, and at least we have superrets to look forward to, you know, and we won't be around to know anything about it. Yeah, part this we have a movie, Don't we? Yeah, I was just about to get into how this movie talks about aliens and I was going to like thoughts on extra trkis trustrial life. But well, I mean, like, like I feel like any opinion other than of course there's a extraterrestrial life is like stupid and I think it's made. They've made contact. I don't think it's impossible. So do you think that every piece of space, you know, sightings, is bullshit, or that all or that all or some of them are real and they just keep like slipping through our fingers? I mean, I don't. I think that, like looking at it through an absolutist like I don't think all are true or all or not true. No, I'm not saying that, but I'm saying if five percent of them are true and then they keep coming and we don't get concrete evidence but we just get a little, a little little taste. You know, I would say that, liken you, at best one percent of like the things are true. I don't I think that, like we probably haven't had much, but I don't think I'm just on the I feel like knowing how big the universe is, I feel like it's ridiculous to think that there isn't some form of extraterrestrial life. It's just difficult to like think of, like would it even be something that we could like comprehend, because, like we only exist because of the way our earth has evolved and we only exist because our circumstances allow us to exist this way. So like other planets with other solar systems and other minerals and vitamins and whatever the fuck. They could they could be like so different from us, but that's still life, you know what I mean. Like they they may not be able to like communicate, or maybe the communicate not in the same way as us. Yeah, I don't think that they're going to come down and then we're going to be able to have a conversation. But I do believe is that like they have advanced millions of a year's ahead of us, or like they evolved so much sooner, and so they've had so much more time to...

...come smart and like technologically advanced, and so that they just come and they look at us for like a few hours every once in a while, just like study us like we're in a zoo, and then they leave really quick and like that part is legit. I mean the other crazy cool thing about it is that, let's say we have made contact with aliens. By the way, this discussion is going pretty well, not not not in the direction I sked Um, but like, let's say we have made contact with aliens, right because of the way gravity works. Right, wait, you see, interested we did a whole episode on it. You know, you know how it's had. You know how did for the show. Yeah, you know how in that movie, because of the way the distortion of time works because of gravity, when they've been getting pains from the water planet for like seven years. Yeah, but on the water planet they've only been sending pings for like two hours. Yeah, like, what if that's our way of that's the way we end up communicating with aliens, is that we are moving at a much slower rate than them, and so they've been trying to like send us stuff. Are they're sending stuff so like a lot. You know what I'm trying to say? Yes, we're receiving it very slowly. We're very sporadically, which is because I think fifty years were like there's this thing that happened exactly time. They're doing it every fifteen minutes exactly, and the thing is, you lost me, but then you found me, you know. Like I just think that that's interesting and because like we only know what we only know what we know, which is our solar system and the existence of one's near us, but we have no idea what's in them, like lifewise. Something that the movie said is it's like we know that there are bunch of other galaxies. We know that, like the elements and the like, and like we know that it has all the same building blocks, and so it would be stupid to think that this thing that happened here wouldn't also happen elsewhere. What probability wise, because of how infinite the universes and that it's constantly expanding. It would be stupid to think that life in some way does not exist and that the problem, like these the elements that exist here, that they wouldn't also in some way, in some close form, also exist in some other you know what I mean? I do. I think the hard part is them getting from their galaxy to our galaxy, because US leaving our galaxy seems pretty difficult and we're pretty smart. But also the rat people could be super advanced. What if? What if you're right? What if it's rat people in another universe? I mean, like that's a joke, but it's also like informed being that like rats are bottom feeders, like they're going to live underground and survive whatever we do, and they acclimate well the conditions and then they're going to survive and eat us and turn into superrets. Do you think we will, in our lifetime, definitively know whether the US government has had contact with aliens or some like eat extraterrestrial lifelong no, few you don't feel rest assure that in the thick of Covid they released like a few like air force clips of things moving across the screen really fast and said the things, the things that things they released when the US government or the administration was in a period where they were in trouble. So imagine being at the board meeting where they're like, Goss, what, what's take one for the team and suggest that aliens are real and it'll drive it. It's the way it'll drop. Yeah, exactly. The covid thing for like two weeks. Yeah, they're like there were like also the beginning of coop, like this thing's just gonna blow over spring break, like will be back for the rest of the semester. I mean, given the administration that was in place at the time, I would not be shocked. Should we play a...

...clip where of the Song Fuck Donald Trump, fuck don trump, yeah, oh, track, fucked out, track, yeah, fucked out shop. Yeah, fucked out track, fuck out, shock, fucked out, Tuck. Yeah, it fucked out, shot, Ye, fut. I like White folks. Wun't like you all that Niggas in a hood. When a fight, surprise, they'll chop. Wayne tried to snap you. Surprise. The Nation is lamhock. Find Fun fact when book us, you shook his hand on the side. I did too. I did. And being at home on to like really fucking taints that movie. On one hand, yes, because he's a horrible monster, yeah, but on the other hand the problem with trump is that he's really fucking funny. Like his existence and him being the president of the United States, the leader of the free world, partly doing quotes like but also being in home alone too, is perfect, like that's great. Excuse me, where's the lobby? Down the hall into the lift? Thanks, but Donald's here. What hold on, God wrong. So let me just share a moment that I experienced while growing up. Donald Trump was the host of a show called the celebrity apprentice. Well, first it was the apprentice. Also him being like an icon for like doing nothing, for just being like a rich guy in New York City and putting himself on a show where he fires people. So obviously we, me and my family, would watch it when we were like when I was like eight or whatever, and one night we're watching it because we would watch it every week, and in the middle of Donald Trump's talking, the screen like wipes its like there's a national emergency, and then it cut. Every channel cut to Barack Obama saying that Osambin lawn had been I was just gonna say that's what it was, wasn't it? And just like you think, that's when he that's when he was like, I'm going to become the president now. That's why I'm saying like, in hindsight, just like Donald Trump and president and all of those things being wrapped in one was like like very foreshadowy. Good evening tonight I can report to the American people and to the world. Do you know the states who's conducted mop huld it killed and show big Lorden. We will bad code. The Fun fact I was going to give was that when Joe Biden was a officially elected president, in like November of two thousand and twenty, sophia and her mom came to pick me up as we drove around bridgewater playing Fuck Donald Trump loudly and proudly passed my past the guy with several trump signs and part where were you during the Kennedy assassination? Wow, I did not think that's where it was going. It's because I forgot my train of thought and then you were well, that's awes me. Is this a good time start talking about the movie? Let's try. Well, you guys want to try? You want to try? No, I'll know, I'll try. I'll try. Okay. Well, so, if you...

...can't tell this, this conversation has been a little wayward, do you not really about the movie? Not yet, because I would say Trent and Iron Agreement on this movie. I maybe I'm a little bit less harsh on at than Trent, but there's not that much to say about this movie. I think it's I mean like half of the movie is just narration of life in the s and the other half is like a rotoscoped stuff of Neil arms long going on the moon and then rotoscope stuff of our main character being on the moon. It's all right, it's all rotoscope. I will say I really like the rotoscoping of like old events and old like news footage and like TV shows that are like established stuff and that goes in what I was saying about everything that you rotoscope just being inherently like ten percent more interesting. But I will say that you can't just make a roscope movie of whatever you want and it be good but Sanda dark place. I do. It was weird because I registered it in my brain, but I was like the audience, of the audience obviously can't see this and I'm in the middle of talking seriously about the film. So no way, this is matter me. No, it's not for you. Okay, I just made a funny face, guys, just in case you didn't know. But I will say I here's what I'll say for the interview. I watched like x percentage of the movie and in my brain I was like, I think I only got like fifty percent the way through because I just like clocked so few things as occurring. And then I watched it again today and there were like fifteen minutes left and I recognize what was on the screen and I was like, Oh wait, I watched the whole movie but just like the Latin, the lack of a three act structure prevented my brain from making key points throughout and so I only clocked things that happen in the first half. I watched this movie with friend of the show, Sophia Alexis, and she made the point that this movie is almost like a movie that they would show in school as like, Oh, we're doing the Apollo unit, we're doing the life in the s unit, let's show this movie and they play it over like three days before a break, like like spring break or whatever, and like I feel like I can see that. Like I feel like if I was a kid, I would maybe like this movie. I mean, I don't dislike this movie. I think it's fine here. I didn't hate myself watching it. It's just it's there. It's interesting, which is weird because like not that much happens. There's not I don't here's another weird thing. It's listed in the children and family movies category. It's also rated PG thirteen. I don't know why. Is there like harsh language? Like I think that's why. Maybe sexual themes, sexual themes of justly just like permissi Zo Bikini's but I feel like no. But I was like this is definitely like could be a kids movie, but it's yeah, it's a little it's a little bit like the Matrix being rated are. I don't I don't really know why it's rated are. So do you know how this whole movie was like? And then we'd play baseball and the trick with playing baseball is here's this really specific thing. And then we'd go get snow cones and here's a detail about how you get the snow cones and here's the methodology of how we'd get the money to pay for the snow cones. And when I hit a bait, when I hit a single in baseball, I really called it this. And here's all the vocabulary and here's all the shows that were popular during the time and board games, you know.

Yeah, so in like days and confused where you like have a story and you're moving it along and you have a character and in the middle of conversation they tell you about something very specific and they're like here's this trick to how I played this pinball game and in your human brain you're like, I can apply that to my life, like that reminds me of my life like that. I like, like I like the specificity, but in this just like overflow of that, like this is all that you know. Yeah, I mean I guess that's like my one like thing with the movie is that it's it's like split into two. We're like the first half is all explanation and the second think you would think the first note that one would be given was just cross cut more I between. I think that I feel like the thing is they also set up interesting scenes for the scenes that have voice over in them, and I would like to see those scenes play out without the voiceover. And it becomes just a little like monotonous to keep hearing Jack Black's voice, because it he's not like talking differently, it's generally the same like cadence and like intensity. And so to anyone who hasn't seen the movie, it's like you know, and ever in every like high school movie, where there's like the ten minutes sequence where like they first get the high school and they're like this is where everyone sits and the punk's are over here, exposition dump. But it's the whole. But it's the whole first half is that it's like like I clocked it when it started focusing on space and it's like the two thirds mark. Yeah, and when it's funny, because I think it has I think it has a funny premise at the beginning where they go. We made our capsule a little too small. So you're going to go to space and like I wish that that was interest, like the process of him training to go to space, like what you said was just cross cut more with this like specific facts about the s because but it's like a bizarre choice to have all like the first half of the movie is a flashback when, so when at the end you're watching the Apollo eleven mission and you're seeing like Neil Armstrong, but then you're thinking about, like, oh, how he did this first and that affects how he's reacting now. And I kept waiting for the astronauts to like see his footprints on the moon and for like that to link up and to be like, okay, this isn't like, not that I thought it was like his dream or anything, but I was like let's connect to the history and this story, like let's do the once upon it and Hollywood thing where you have the established history and now you're pivoting it and you're having your fictional characters interact with that, and I felt like it should like that was a missed opportunity, like for the astronauts to see his footprints and like what the hell? Yeah, you'll get no argument for me. I just I don't we said this before. We did this call like a week ago or something, where we were like this is going to be a more chilled out discussion because because there's not that much to discuss, because I feel like the movie is exactly what it's trying to be. I just don't know that what it's trying to be is something that I would want to watch like, I'm sure than like once. I'm sure that Richard Link later. It is fucking site with how this came out, because it just like im it's visually great, like it looks cool, but also it just like you're like right, what you know, but like you shouldn't like.

It's like I kind of like don't like. It would be weird for like, any director to do like an autobiography, like narrative film about themselves as a child. I know that in meant more ways than one, like the people make movies about their childhood, but this is pretty like on the nose and a little like you're almost become biased a certain point because you like everything I like is awesome, because everyone thinks that everything that they like is awesome. Because they like it. But you can't just like show us all the stuff you like and be like here's The powerpoint presentation of my child. That's the thing, is that it's a powerpoint presentation. It's not like you can do all the things you I mean, that's what, to certain extent, once upon a time in Hollywood is. For Tarantino, is just like this era that he lived in that he loves very deeply from his childhood, and now he gets to recreate it and show it. But it's done in the service. These done in a way. It's done in a way of breaking new ground, where this it's fun to watch two thousand and one space Odyssey animated on screen. But I'm like, it's weird that this movie is just showing us like several thirty second clips of other movies and TV show and like do you know in the part where he's like, Oh, and they're all these great popular TV shows, and then he's like and then there are the TV shows, like I canceled after one season, but I still remember him. And here are the synopsis for three different shows you've never heard of and you'll never hear of again, and they're all kind of about space or monsters. So they're loosely connected enough to talk about. Yeah, it's you saying it's a it's like a powerpoint presentation. Is really unlocking something of my mind, because that's really what this is like like, other than the bits where he's on the moon, which are like the few scenes where it's like new stuff. Other than that it's literally all just Jack Black talking as or Richard Link later through Jack Back flack's voice, just talking about what life was like, information that he could have put in a powerpoint. Do you know, like in class, when we're like going around and like everyone's talking about what movies they've been watching per se, and you someone starts talking and they're like, Oh, yeah, I watch this new horror movie and and they say the name and you've never heard of it and it's obscure and you're never going to talk about it again. And then for the remainder of them talking about it, even though like you don't know what this thing is and so you've no reason to judge it, you're just like, I've never heard of it and so I don't fucking care about you talking about it for the next paragraph, because that information is going in one year and at the next like kind of like that. Well, Trent, do you think it's time to enter the ratings gauntlet? Is it we haven't talked about? I mean we've kind of leaped over. Also, can hear the ice cream truck in the background? Yeah, yeah, I can't anymore, though. Cool. We kind of skipped over the what's working what's not working part of the show. I mean we kind of said it. I think what's working is the visuals. Like I think it looks nice and I think that Richard Link later has a way with words, like, even though it's mostly Jack Black talking, I found it. I found it relatively engaging for what it was. I think that what's not working is that it just should have been more spliced together or like inter cut more frequently. Instead, it kind of feels like a forty five minute exposition dump and then forty five minutes of an expedition exposition dump mixed in with the main the a story, actual light was going to happen.

I Kain just think that they're like, like, you know most space movies, you're like are they going to craft? It's ever going to be okay, like they're just like no stakes, probably because he's telling. Well, I mean like that's not that's not really a flaw for me, because I don't I didn't go into this move. I don't think that it needs to have the stakes of is he going to die, because I don't think that was ever something that was going to happen. No, but you're just like is the mission going to be successful? He's here. Yes, I guess it's but like it's kind of like a different type of movie. I mean, I don't think that it's a flaw that we know that it went okay. I mean experiencing it with him is kind of the point. I think the problem is that we don't experience it with him enough. Yes, but it's it just like any movie where it's like an old man in bed and he's like I'm gonna explain to you how this crazy thing happened and you're like that's dope, I'm sure we're going to go on adventure, but like the old man's going to be fine. I never love that complaint with movies because I mean, like it gets brought up with like marvel movies a lot of like we know there's no stakes and therefore no tension, because we know they're not going to die because to sign up for six other movies. Marvel did a good job of sidestepping that by like killing a lot of people. Well, but the thing is, like I don't think that that's a valid problem with the movie, because the thing is, like it to me that it comes down to two points. One is nobody goes into a movie like spider man expecting spider man to die. We all pretty much go into or the Batman and we think maybe he's going to die in this. We don't think that. We don't expect that, and so we've never seen a Batman movie or Batman died. So, like why would he said, well, you can make a case, you can make a case for the dark knight rises, but, but, but, my point being, there their movies where you don't have the you that's not an expectation of the movie. And my second point is if the only stakes that exist are is this person going to die, then what's the point in rewatching a movie? You don't go into Indiana Jones and go, I mean, like with this new one, it's he's old, so he will die. But like I parth, like maybe he gonna die, like like maybe he will, but parison. But like you don't mean the get me the fuck out of Star Wars, please stab me and force awakens, but I don't watch like the airplane fight in raiders and go this doesn't matter to me because I know he makes it. The thing is, like movies are meant to they should realistically be able to last forever. You should be able to watch it, and I mean I watch mission I want. I recently showed mission impossible fall out to friend off the show, Sarah Broughtman, in front of the show, Jackson Clark. I recently showed it to them and I've seen that movie more times that I can count and I still get tense at it because of the way that it's shot, the way that it's written. You know all that. So I never loved the there's no stakes because we know this person is going to be fine, because that shouldn't matter. That's just information. What should matter is how is the story told, how are they presenting it, and is that interesting? And if the answer is yes, then I don't care. And the answers no, I'll watch a different thing. But that's my that's my perspective. Nice. You want to enter the rating scotlet. Now I do. Yeah, wait, is Waich Shit, is it is the atomic is it? Is it happening part? So, since I'm watching Anyana Jones, the Kingdom of the crystal skull, like when he goes like into that town, like what happens? You know, your nearest of my God, do you...

...think that holds? We should miss us that. I mean, all we need is a nuclear bomb and a fridge and a bunch of space. Yes, no, we definitely do. I was in watching this movie. My first thought was everyone from the preceding see, like don't nuclear bombs like blow up like a whole city or like more? Yeah, I mean they can blow up a whole town. They can. They're huge. Well, also, beyond that, there's radiation involved. Yeah, I think the entire cast of characters would be either exploded into dust because they like they go on too you, like they go into the vehicle thing and it sends them far away. But like that bomb is really big and I think that every person involved is going to be dead. Yeah, or I've heard someone say that. Him surviving the blast, it's fine, but he would be dead of radiation poisoning. Virtue. Yeah, I mean, like I don't think he would survive that blast and I also don't think that he would survive the radiation. But to both I don't really care in watching because if you like, I mean, you have to have the refrigerator flying through the air, because it's awesome. Well, all MOS awesome, but, like I mean again, I don't. I love the shot where he gets out of the refrigerator and he sees the explosion. I think it's a cool shot. It is a it is a cool shot. But as you see the fridge flying through the air, I was like, wow, if these other two things didn't kill him like this fall. Yeah, the tumble should, you would think. All right, well, let's into the ratings gauntlet. Yeah, no, part wait, we should. We scream my cons really, the blasting you, I did up fun them, SPF. I have had I have this, no, I have this thing called Melanin in my sc really, my brownness finally saved me. You know, wow, if nuclear bombs only affected white people, well, that be awesome. Now, that would be awesome. That would be beneficial to like, you know, we would hold all the power in the world. I think we might all be in better hands. Yeah, no, I would feel better knowing that the government of Saudi Arabia was in charge of nuclear weapons. You know, anyways, the richest nation in the world? Yes, Saudi Arabia the richest nation in the world. Wait, that's true. I mean it's the US, but, like, aren't they considered richer than us? No, I mean like we're in more debt. But I mean it depends how you define richest. But there's no way in which Saudi Arabia is more rich than the United States of America. We're about to find out. I mean it might be, like it's China, sure, China. China is is their net worth is one hundred thirteen trillion dollars. Then it's us, a fifty trillion, then Germany and then France. Well, but net worth is it's a whole complicated. It's also all fake because we're in so many trillion dollars of debt to other people. Well, yeah, I mean also China's only. That's their net worth, only because all these other countries have outsourced their production to China because they're cheap. So it's not if those countries were to pull out, the net...

...worth of China would drastically decrease. Anyways, shall we finally enter the red things rating scoutlet. Yeah, time is really slipped away from us now that we've been recording for an hour, but let's rate the film. Should I go first? You go first? What are we doing? You you part? Yeah, you go for it. We've talked like stock. We've covered a lot of ground today. rewatchability. I don't think this is very rewatchable. I don't see myself rewatching this unless I have a child and I'm like yeah, maybe, sure. What's the other one? rewatchability. Recommend, recommend, if you're interested in like either a Richard Link later movie or in the S, I think I would like Sophia recommended this to her mom who grew up in the S and in that to that category of person, I would because that was your life. You know. Rating, I think like a five point five, maybe six. It is fair. Yeah, I can't disagree with anything you said and at the fear of repeating it, I'm just going to say going to give this like a, like, a, like, A. Yeah, like, I was going to say a five just to be right down the middle, but I've I will say a five point five in the way of leaning towards positivity, because it's perfectly watchable and I watch it today and, dare I say, I smoked a little weed before and it made it. What. Yeah, yeah, I know, since we're an hour in to anyone's you know, Trent, Trent knows his mom's not listening. No, no, like she might listen to the intro just get a little taste, but by this point only the real Jeez are sticking around. And it was pretty visually stimulating, nice and I was engaged, and I can't say that about all things, but I like I have a soft spot for rischild link later and he's pretty good at writing words most of the time. Well, we still can't say what's coming on next week because as of right now it's not a hundred percent confirmed. But but it's really cool and we should listen to it like when it comes out. We have a lot of like really cool stuff like supposedly lined up. Yeah, we have. We have a lot of new releases that hopefully get covered right. Yeah, a lot of our like our shows, always all over the place in terms of what we're covering, but I've been I scrolled through our recent episodes and it's a lot of two thousand and twenty two and two thousand and twenty one, like what's gone into us? Yeah, yeah, we've gone insane, but you should go insane on apple podcast and spotify, Amazon music. Give us good reviews. You know, I think if you're hearing this and you don't go to spotify and give us the five star or apple podcast and it us the five star or your whatever preferred streaming platform, we give us a positive review like that'd be kind of fucked up. I would agree. Yeah, go follow us on Instagram or twitter. At craft serves this pod cast. Yeah, and yeah, I think that's it. Thanks for listening to our ramblings, because this was I think our most most not till on topic. Yeah, but and it's the first time we got like political in any real way. We've talked, we've said anti trump. Yeah, it's antivacs or things. You know, sure, sure, we've said so many words over the years, but this point, I'm sure a lot of them are lost in time. But if you want to hear what was up tube and the thick a covid, go check out our John Wick two...

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